Overture with extension, real or fake?

[mattbodis]

I have encountered the same problem several times - figuring out if a domain overture with extension is real or fake.

Recently I have come across buying a domain that has xxxx overture with extension without stats, but have no solid proof if this overture is a coincidence or was generated using robots, etc. First thing that came to mind was to check the search engines if any website was mentioning it or if any site was linking it, that brought back 0 results across most major search engines.

But I later discovered that other large typos that have xxx overture with extension also had 0 results, so there's still a possibility that the xxxx overture of this typo domain that I am looking to acquire is real. I looked at ovthistory.com, nothing.

I looked at alexa.com, no results. Google.com/trends, nothing. I even looked at the whois history at whois.sc, and I noticed that there was only 2 records archived, today that I checked the whois and 1 that was over 5 years ago. You'd think that a domain with xxxx overture would have somebody curious to check whois, wouldn't it?

As a last resort, I have looked at typos of the typo, and yes, there were quite a few registered. Some that were registered 2-3, or even more, years ago. So now, I am in a split. What other alternatives do I have to see if a domain receives traffic or not? There has to be something else to look for. And if somebody can find a solution to this question, it can be quite useful in future scenarios, because this has happened to me more than once in the past.

Enlighten me.

 

[droplister]

i caught one with 158 ovt.w ext no traffic, meh, not much lost.

 

[000]

If OVT with > OVT without, run away.

 

[mattbodis]

If OVT with > OVT without, run away.

That's what I you would think but when I looked at the actual website of the typo, the overture without extension was gradually less.

Not to mention, I own traffic domains myself that have less overture without extension than with extension.

Any other ideas?

 

[BidNo]

Check alternative in my sig. Ratio between Ovt/Vurr is ~300/1. And, with that Ovt, I would certainly expect to find matches.

Cheers,
BidNo

 

[Biggie]

could be a domain that another "pumped-up" with hopes to sell but didn't.
now you found it and thinking of regging it.

pm me the name and I'll give it a look see.

 

[mattbodis]

Check alternative in my sig. Ratio between Ovt/Vurr is ~300/1. And, with that Ovt, I would certainly expect to find matches.

Cheers,
BidNo

I tried it. It has overture of 1 with extension. :-#

 

[DNjet]

shytkicker , pm sent

 

[mistermouse63]

i think that US ovt is generally more reliable that for example french ovt. ovt for countries is unpredictable. i had some domains that were getting 300-500 uniques per day and had absolutely no ovt (pure type-in traffic). i also had cases of domains with w/ext. > no ext.

generally i wouldnt risk a lot of money for decisions based on OVT

 

[BidNo]

I tried it. It has overture of 1 with extension. :-#

I've been running a domain drop analysis for a while and have never seen a domain with OVT in the thousands and Vurr of 1. Statistically, when you start finding single occurances in Vurr, the Ovt range can be 0 to 300 with a bias toward the lower end. The other thing of note is that Vurr is snapshot in time versus Ovt which is the prior month; so possible there was an intervening reason for a traffic increase. Also, in addition to "domain.com", check for "www.domain.com" on Vurr as it may also have been searched that way. Otherwise, I'd be cautious, Ovt is easy to spoof.

 

[mattbodis]

The overture for the "www.domain.com" alternative returns 4. I don't know. I think I'll have the chance to post this domain in the next few days so it can be further analyzed here before I decide to purchase or not.

I will update this thread with the domain soon.

 

[BidNo]

Vurr count of 5 makes an Ovt count of 1,500 creditable. Max Ovt value found for this count was 3,500. Assuming Ovt is around 1,500 and less than 3,500, this tends to sustantiate.

Cheers,
BidNo

 

[mattbodis]

The domain in mind was Chryslerfinance.com a typo of Chryslerfinancial.com. It was on Enom's Clubdrop and I bid $33,900, and was outbid by the final bidder of $34,000.

He then didn't pay for 7 days, until the last day. I kind of thought throughout the days that he wouldn't pay for it and I was going to bid the $40,000 maxl bid at the start of the re-auction.

It is hard to tell if that 3000+ overture is actually real. But now it is too late as the bidder has payed last night which was his last day to pay. THere will be more in the future.

 

[Domagon]

It could be real, but sure does seem strange nevertheless - in particular the lack of Whois / OVT history until just a month or so ago.

Perhaps it's part of a concerted pump and dump scheme of some sort, since many people are willing shell out big bucks for "deleted" domains, basically unseen / untested.

Ron

 

[gmac17]

all it takes is one person to pump up a name like that and suddenly an auction goes from $200 to $34,000.

just saying...

 

[mattbodis]

We will find out looking at October's overture scores in a few days.

 

[BidNo]

I'll be curious find out. And BTW, the high Ovt score versus Vurr was on that domain. However, I still think I believe it; chryslerfinancial.com has an Ovt of 10,315 and I don't like it as much.

 

[DNjet]

so strange that chryslerfinancing.com has zero score though , can't figure that one out, seems that it should.

 

[mattbodis]

I think we will find out once October's overture scores are updated.

 

[linkman]

For June 06 chryslerfinance.com W/Ext 4044