legal PCLA.com, TDMB.com & 900 domains

[namebank]

Closed by the reason of PCLA.com was STOLEN now!

WHO IS THIS GUY?

Beware this guy [email protected][/COLOR][/SIZE]

Following is a current (maybe faked) whois of pcla.com so be careful to buy this domain name.
PCLA.com was stolen now.
After I receive the fund via PAYPAL.com,PCLA.com was pushed into the eNomCentral.com account(I made one instead of this guy).
After he receive the domain name, he cancelled the payment of PAYPAL.com.
I don't know how this kind of things happen in PAYPAL.
After we receive the goods or domain names, can we cancel the payment anytime?
(whois info of May.12.2009)
AboutUs: pcla.com

Registration Service Provided By: eNom, Inc.
Contact: [email protected]

Domain name: pcla.com

Administrative Contact:
Individual
Tracey Older ([email protected])
+1.254785442
Fax:
Two United Nations Plaza, 27th Floor,
NY, NY 10017
US

Technical Contact:
Individual
Tracey Older ([email protected])
+1.254785442
Fax:
Two United Nations Plaza, 27th Floor,
NY, NY 10017
US

Registrant Contact:
Individual
Tracey Older ()

Fax:
Two United Nations Plaza, 27th Floor,
NY, NY 10017
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
NS1.SEDOPARKING.COM
NS2.SEDOPARKING.COM

Creation date: 04 Dec 1999 06:22:43
Expiration date: 04 Dec 2009 06:22:00


(whois info of May.11.2009)
[size]WHOIS InformationVisit AboutUs.org for more information about pcla.com
AboutUs: pcla.com


Registrant:
Omer Ekinci
Desnet Plaza Bağlar Mah. Fatih Cad. Gül Sokak No:27

Istanbul 59427 TR



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Administrative:
Omer Ekinci
Desnet Plaza Bağlar Mah. Fatih Cad. Gül Sokak No:27

Istanbul , 59427 TR
Phone: +90.02125451220
Fax:



Technical:
Omer Ekinci
Desnet Plaza Bağlar Mah. Fatih Cad. Gül Sokak No:27

Istanbul , 59427 TR
Phone: +90.02125451220
Fax:



nameserver:
NS1.SEDOPARKING.COM
NS2.SEDOPARKING.COM

updated-date: 2008-11-08 08:40:45.000

created-date: 1999-12-04 06:22:43.000

registration-expiration-date: 2009-12-04 06:22:43.000

status:
registrar-lock
clientDeleteProhibited

domain: pcla.com


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[Soofi]

does this person have any other email addresses??

Which paypal email address was used by this person when you received money ??

 

[namebank]

"Hos�a'kal'" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
Sent by:
brad stewart
Buyer Email:
[email protected]
Transfer to:
Dagmar Luehrig
Buyer Email:
[email protected]


[email protected]
[email protected]
------------------------------------
ABOVE TWO EMAIL ADDRESSES WERE USED.

 

[Soofi]

lol I think I was just contacted by this scammer

he had an email address: [email protected]

 

[namebank]

YES, I THINK HE IS EXACTLY THE SAME GUY.
HE TOLD ME THAT HIS ID OF DNFORUM.COM is traceyolder.

 

[Stian]

I'm sorry to say this, but don't accept PayPal from people you don't know. It's way too unsecure with way too many scamming opportunities.

 

[Soofi]

He contacted me through Namepros id: SteGaNoS making an offer for my CVCV.com and when I countered his offer with double the price, he kind of agreed asking for msn so that made me doubtful about him.

But now when we were talking on msn, he agreed to escrow as well, later on rejected escrow saying he wants to pay by paypal as he dpesnt want to pay escrow fee.. I lowered my asing price saying I will bear those expenses and he agreed. As soon as I placed a request in moniker escrow for the transaction, he disappeared!! lol

So I think accounts in question are:

Namepros id: SteGaNo
Email address: [email protected]

 

[namebank]

i was so stupid at that time. The more stupid thing was i made an enomcentral.com account by myself. This guy told me to make one for him but i didn't doubt at that time. But this guy can command good english by msn. So don't trade with paypal with the person you don't know.
Actually, i don't like paypal trade but i thought this guy was a big buyer.
I was mad at that time.

he likes 4 letter domain names. He told me, he is interested in my several 4 letter domain names.

 

[Soofi]

i was so stupid at that time. The more stupid thing was i made an enomcentral.com account by myself. This guy told me to make one for him but i didn't doubt at that time. But this guy can command good english by msn. So don't trade with paypal with the person you don't know.
Actually, i don't like paypal trade but i thought this guy was a big buyer.
I was mad at that time.

Get another paypal accunt. This way you can use this one to receive funds, and second where you can xfer funds to after receiving them in the first one!!

Precaution is always BETTER then cure!!

 

[namebank]

HIS MSN EMAIL ADDRESS IS [email protected]

Interpol must investigate this intellectal property crime.

don't do stupid things like me.

special thanks to all.

 

[namebank]

Me; Green Letters Scammer: BLACK LETTERS
[email protected]
Hi!
Alison:
Hello
How you have been
I found to you on DN!
Fine, thanks.
Alison:
whatever this is alison, and how can I call you bro
Yes.
Alison:
what is your name
****** Kang
Alison:
ok heu
little bit difficult
Alison:
its sounds better than **** hehe.
whatever.
I have to make an ez name
Alison:
I am interested that your LLLL domains..
as you know, what is bin price. I sent to mail on your box.
what are those?
Alison:
tzon.com
tkad.com
pcla.com
tdmb.com
how much money each one for me ?
BIN PRICE is USD 1,288/ one domain name
u a responsible for escrow
Alison님의 말:
what about you paypal i am verified member on digitalpoint and have to +70 itrader point.
1,288 X 4 = USD 5,152
Alison:
firstly i can buy one domain hehe
what's that?
Alison:
pcla.com
OK POST "SOLD"
u prefer escrow.com or paypal?
Alison:
i think paypal is better / for me
Paypal is bad for me
How about escrow.com or
buy DNESCROW of afternic?
Alison:
I can pay tdnam.com or paypal
afternic i never used this
but i can try.
OK , PAYPAL
Alison:
any discount ?
if you r payment cleared , I will push it into your
eNom.com.
No, sorry.
it's very cheap
Alison:
which one is ok for you, echeck or funds
cash
Alison:
ok
wait i am trying to remember of my enom acc lol xD
Alison:
what is your paypal address ?
*****@*****.COM
My name = **********
Alison:
kk.
buying only one?
10 % discount for 10 domain names.
Alison:
at now yes cause i dont have some money for deal with you.
but in future, whynot
OK. Post Sold first. Then pay via Paypal
Alison:
OK.
PCLA.com is the best one.
Offered lots of times. U so lucky.
Alison:
sup ^^
i cant find to your theared on dnforum lol.

http://www.dnforum.com/f5/pcla-com-tdmb-com-900-domains-thread-366488.html
Alison:
thank you.
I cant write a comment on your theared lol.
why?
Alison:
because i am not platinum members.
but i'll upgrade to asap
What kind of member?
Alison:
I am normal member on dnforum but you can check my profile on digitalpoint dot com
Anyway you can pay via PAYPAL.
Alison:
i am member holder since 2006 / 607 post +70 itrader point
bla bla blaa..
If you pay, I will post 'SOLD"
Alison:
OK!
Pls let me know your eNom.com account.
Alison:
I am not sure name of enom account / i using to godaddy. please wait i can check to my mail for control of enom account.
ok
pls wait for 5 minutes. W/C
Alison:
kk
I am ready. Sir!!!!!!!!!!
Alison:
I dont remember to enom account.
Make one.
www.eNomCentral.com.
Alison:
I cant create WTF
wait please bro.
ok
Alison:
could you create to for me bro, i am really sorry for said that.
OK, pay first . Then I will make one for you.
But you must give me your infos about email address,
Name, Tel, etc.
Alison:
[email protected]
other information np hehe write to somethin' bro.
OK, I am wating for your payment.
Can we exchange good DN Forum profile for each other?
Alison:
how ?
meanwhile i am sorry
phone.
which account , is WTT
what is WTT?
Alison:
want to trade
Can we exchange good DN Forum profile for each other?
whats mean
leave good feedback for each other.
Alison:
forums.digitalpoint
if you are using it.
your id is digitalpoint ?
Alison님의 말:
ahah no bro
my id is Tracey in DN
my id is possible in forums.digitalpoint.com
My id is namebank in DNForum
Alison:
are u using to another forums ?
No.
Alison:
i think digitalpoint is better than all.
Ah , I have . Korean domain Forum for Korean domainers
I will take a look.
Hello?
Are U there?
Alison:
are u still here
huh ?
Yes
Alison:
is it true ?
Payment Sent To: ***********************@******.com)
Type: Service/Other
Amount: $1.288,00 USD
Total Amount: $1.288,00 USD
yes it is
Alison:
cant you create to one enom account for me
cause really i cant it lol xD
what is lol xd?
Alison:
laugh on line
and lots of laugh
lol = muahshahsahsha ehehehehehe
etc..
please let me know when u create one acc for me
i am ok for payment.
pls wait for some minutes
I have to check paypal
Alison:
cant you open to enom acc.
I can
not eNom.com but eNomCentral.com
eNom is a wholesaler account
Alison:
ok please open one acc and let me know
after to i send to money ^^
and after to payment u can push to domain.
ok
Alison:
kk
Did you sent the money?
Alison:
no
waiting to your response
cause i cant open to enomcentral account.
OK, I will make one and push the domain into your eNomCentral.com.
But I don't know why u can't open eNomCentral.com.
It is easy
Alison:
I cant
please open to one account for me / i am waiting bro
Please wait , I will make.
Organization Name
let me know your organization name
name
address
city
country Tel. FAX
Alison:
write to somethin ^^
Name : Alison Dagmar Luehrig
Address: Im Kamp 42D-59427 Unna Germany
+49 57741510
kk
ok <3
city name?
Alison:
UNNA
login
logi id?
Alison:
id : alisoncraig
pw : alisonunna
postal code?
Alison:
59427
so opened ?
Now you can login.
www.eNomcentral.com
Alison:
tell me paypal address ?
*****@****.COM ?
*****@****.COM ?

your payment is cancelled
I don't know why.
Alison:
I know cause its bank transfer, its not safe
I will send as FUNDS
its better for you
am i right ^^
I don't know
what is FUND?
Alison:
balance on paypal
cash money | not transfer to debit card
its non refundable = funds
is it same as cash?
Alison:
yes its same
what you saw when i sent to payment
completed or pending which one you saw on your paypal ?
after pending it was cancelled
Alison:
ok.
i am waiting
Alison:
yes i am talking to my partner
for our deal about pcla
and i found to funds for you.
*****@*****.COM is it ?
yes
Alison:
check it thank you.
i leave to itrader point on dnforum if u want ?
i received. usd 50 disappeared
1,237 received
Alison:
kk wait i'll done.
i'll send to $50 dont worry bro
****ing to premier acc comission wtf.
ok
Alison:
as u know my enom acc.
please wait
5 minutes
Alison:
sure.
i'll back 2-3mins later / WC

and waiting to push to domain after to i leave to itrader point on dnforum
id : alisoncraig
ok
PCLA.com successfully pushed as follows
WHOIS InformationVisit AboutUs.org for more information about pcla.com
AboutUs: pcla.com

Registrant:
Alison Dagmar Luehrig
Im Kamp 42D-59427

UNNA 59427 DE
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Alison:
i leaving to itrader point ^^
lwhy u cancelled again?
payapal
Alison:
not canceled
paid 1,288 and paid -1288
Alison:
wait i can check
and tell me enom id i declined to domain
when we'll resolve to problem
what are u doing now?
Alison:
i loging to paypal
and enomcentral
YOU NOW HAVE THE DOMAIN PCLA.COM.
Alison:
tell me enom id bro
yes i canceled to domain transfer
if you tell me enom id
re-push to domain on your account ^^
i hate this ****ing paypal " Your account access is limited. Learn how to remove this limitation. " WTF
CAN'T PUSH AGAIN WITHIN 7 DAYS
Alison:
i am so sorry so
i can tell to my id and pw
really i am sorry..
dont think about me " scammer .. "
and please start to escrow.com translaction
pfff..
OK LET ME KNOW YOUR ID AND PW
Alison:
2/05/2009 PP-703-184-628 Inquiry by PayPal

Temporary Hold
********** Trading Co., Ltd. -$1,288.00 USD 12/05/2009 Awaiting other party's response
paypal held to our money
i THINK YOU ARE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THINGS
WHY THIS MESS HAPPENS?
Alison:
are u there ?
yes
pay immediately
Alison:
tell me bank details
i can send to your banka ccount
pay by paypal

MSN WITH THIS SCAMMER ENDED AND HEARD NO NEWS FROM THIS GUY.

this scammer already changed enomcentral.com password.

this scammer changed whois info of enomcentral.com three times already.

 

[namebank]

I found this guy at DNForum.com with the help of the member of DNForum.com.
The current whois of PCLA.com is exactly same as the whois of FUJE.com.
This guy is selling FUJE.com at DNFORUM now and his id of DNFORUM is s2006 .
He is selling fuje.com at the following thread of DNFORUM.
http://www.dnforum.com/f529/fuje-com-premium-cvcv-com-quick-600-bin-thread-370793.html

Stolen Domain PCLA.com Link
http://www.dnforum.com/f417/pcla-com-tdmb-com-900-domains-thread-366488.html#post1707231
Please advice me the next step.

Whois of FUJE.com.

FUJE.COM

 

[s2006]

Hi there,

I just want to inform you thatI sold the domain to Tracy Older.

I wish you told me this earlier I sold the domain to Tracy Older just a day ago, and she is not only opened a Paypal dispute she is refusing to release the funds to pay me.

I believe she is a con artist, I am trying my best to get a refund by Paypal and get my domain Fuje.com back.

Thanks
Si
__________________

Hi there,

I wish you told me this earlier I sold the domain to Tracy Older just a day ago, and she is not only opened a Paypal dispute she is refusing to release the funds to pay me.

I believe she is a con artist, I am trying my best to get a refund by Paypal and get my domain Fuje.com back.

Thanks
Si

Here is the link to the email from her:-

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1461/12372126.jpg

 

[namebank]

Tracey Older is a real scammer, according to your answer.
And s2006 is not Tracey Older, right?
I also reported this to Sedo.com and they will inform me more details about you
and the current owner of Fuje.com.
s2006, are you the person who listed fuje.com at SEDO.com now?
Please let me know.

 

[ksinclair]

Get another paypal accunt. This way you can use this one to receive funds, and second where you can xfer funds to after receiving them in the first one!!

This is interesting. Does it work? What does paypal do on a reverse when the account has no money? Paypal could try to pull it from your checking or any backup credit card...?

 

[Soofi]

This is interesting. Does it work? What does paypal do on a reverse when the account has no money? Paypal could try to pull it from your checking or any backup credit card...?

Definitely interesting, I have secondary account verified and linked with a minor credit card which never has more then $20-$30 available as credit. So if Paypal will try to recover reversed funds , they will get nothing and my account balance will go negative, however I will save my money "which some scammer will triy to scam me off" by filing dispute with paypal because I have already xferred those funds to my primary paypal account, very much legal and is under my brothers name.

P.S. This type of method is suggested and should only be used for legitimate purposes and dont ever try to scam any one!!

 

[s2006]

Just an update, I am in the process of trying to recover my domain name. Hopefully I can get back my domain name, I am also in contact with a domain name atourney in regard to this.

 

[Tim Schoon]

sorry to hear this but IMO not a smart way of doing this deal IMO.. $1300 paypal from someone you don't know....

I guess you'll think twice now before doing it again.

I'd start a paypal dispute on the cancelled payment and get on the phone with their customer service.

Good luck!

 

[DNB]

Definitely interesting, I have secondary account verified and linked with a minor credit card which never has more then $20-$30 available as credit. So if Paypal will try to recover reversed funds , they will get nothing and my account balance will go negative, however I will save my money "which some scammer will triy to scam me off" by filing dispute with paypal because I have already xferred those funds to my primary paypal account, very much legal and is under my brothers name.

P.S. This type of method is suggested and should only be used for legitimate purposes and dont ever try to scam any one!!

I think that this is not good method because my friend had been scamed by someone and his paypal had negative balance, and now he is getting letters from debt collection agency...

 

[Soofi]

I think that this is not good method because my friend had been scamed by someone and his paypal had negative balance, and now he is getting letters from debt collection agency...

Interesting point, never knew Paypal started hiring Collection Agents!! However as far as I know, they can only email or call seeking you do something about negative balance, however if you were right and had used your account for legitimate purposes Paypal cant force you to pay!

Paypal cant do anything when users file unauthorized transaction claims as they go by the book and do what is said in their policies or terms of use even if you were being scammed!! But what I've recommend above method is to save your A*S from such scammers by quickly switching funds from your secondary account to primary account and stay in peace!!

Method is working PERFECTLY for me, so I thought I had share since alot of fellow members/users are being scammed by few dirtbags out there