For Sale POOL.COM IS NOW OPEN TO PUBLIC !

[clemzonguy]

And, they probably got tired of SnapNames and NW making a lot of money off of dropping names.

The hardest part for most registrars is getting organized enough to put together a program and marketing it like others have. Usually it markets itself on these boards. Most are fine with the snapnames sytems and it is probably a very easy turnkey solution. However, with more people trying to get private connections and "buy off" registrars this is going to become a malay of crap soon. This is just making me more pro-wls day by day, even though at first glance in the past I used to be totally against it. As I have become more educated to the numerous greedy, wealthy, arrogant, and self-rightious people in this "game" I say that the WLS is ultimately the only plausible solution. If the status quo could be maintained and the integrity and effectiveness of snapnames protected as a viable ordering source I might be still against the WLS but we are slowly seeing this erroded as more and more people try to get their grubby little fingers in for a piece of the pie.

 

[clemzonguy]

The drop business will continue for other extensions.

This is a point I have thought about many times. If the prices of .com/.net are driven up by high demands with the WLS system think about what it will do for prices/demand on other domain extensions. Overall this could be a great thing for all of us. I've gotten a large portion of names that I plan to use in the future. Anything above and beyond that is just icing on the cake.

 

[Cash Is King]

Originally posted by clemzonguy


The hardest part for most registrars is getting organized enough to put together a program and marketing it like others have. Usually it markets itself on these boards. Most are fine with the snapnames sytems and it is probably a very easy turnkey solution. However, with more people trying to get private connections and "buy off" registrars this is going to become a malay of crap soon. This is just making me more pro-wls day by day, even though at first glance in the past I used to be totally against it. As I have become more educated to the numerous greedy, wealthy, arrogant, and self-rightious people in this "game" I say that the WLS is ultimately the only plausible solution. If the status quo could be maintained and the integrity and effectiveness of snapnames protected as a viable ordering source I might be still against the WLS but we are slowly seeing this erroded as more and more people try to get their grubby little fingers in for a piece of the pie.

Interesting view. I still believe that competition is always good in any marketplace. This may mean that snapnames and other top name grabers must update their hardware and code to more effective. A monopoly drives down competition and lets the company charge basically anything it wants. Snapnames is not Microsoft because they are losing business because entrpreneurs have been able to penetrate the market for their piece of the pie. Down with WLS IMHO.

 

[actnow]

Clem,

Do you buy Coke, Pepsi or Virgin cola? Eventhough, there are substitute brands out there. You/we will continue to buy the name brands.

Furthermore, the big spender end user will continue to want .com as part of their marketing program which the general public thinks of first.

So, what you are thinking is "rising tide raises all ships". So, the .us and others will go up in price as the .com's go up.

I think WLS is Verisign's way of moving the money and profit from the resellers to them.

Remember, Verisign is not selling a manufactured product. They do not manufacturer anything. They are selling a service. And, all they are doing is increasing their revenue by doing this.

"Follow the money" Who will profit the most from this?

 

[Luc]

I just added 30,000 names. They better be good

This is why this service won't work. Unless they figure something
out, they'll be flooded with tens of thousands of names
to monitor and several thousand to backorder every day.

Services like this one work great as long as they're kept
private, but unless they've got some trick up the sleeve,
this "free backorders" concept might not work out in our
favor.

Am I missing something here?

I really LOVE the idea though. I've got at least 2k names
that I want to monitor and backorder.

Best of luck!
Luc L.

 

[Cash Is King]

Originally posted by DomainRetriever


This is why this service won't work. Unless they figure something
out, they'll be flooded with tens of thousands of names
to monitor and several thousand to backorder every day.

Services like this one work great as long as they're kept
private, but unless they've got some magic up the sleeve,
this "free backorders" concept might not work out in our
favor.

Am I missing something here?

I really LOVE the idea though. I've got at least 2k names
that I want to monitor and backorder.

Best of luck!
Luc L.

Let's all remember that pool.com will need all the equipment and connections if they want to be able to compete. It sounds good, however if it sounds to good to be true than it usually is. This should be an interesting thread to review in a month.

 

[Edwin]

Surely they want to encourage people to backorder as many names as possible - that increases the probability that ANY name they manage to get has at least 2 (and probably more) people monitoring it, taking it out of the $60 category and into the auction category where the price will rise further.

 

[Luc]

Exactly. Their prices make it seem like they're trying to compete with SnapNames, but it's important to rememeber that Snap has
at least a dozen registrars working with them.

We'll see how it goes.

 

[Cash Is King]

In the meantime I think my 30,000 name upload has crashed their server. Oops!!

 

[cyphix]

Originally posted by peaceful
We charge a low US$60 fee which includes a 1 year domain registration. In the case of a domain backordered by multiple users, a short auction will take place and the winning bid replaces our standard fee.

oh another auction. cant wait

Exactly my thoughts peaceful.. sounded good until I read the auction part, big fish gets a chance at the best names once again.

 

[clemzonguy]

Do you buy Coke, Pepsi or Virgin cola?

I don't drink carbonated beverages. I prefer .com also, but what I am referring to is the little man who can't afford to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for thedomainhewants.com.

I think WLS is Verisign's way of moving the money and profit from the resellers to them.

Of course it is!!! No money out of my pockets. It will only put money in them if prices rise. And we're already seeing this due to the RGP and new persons entering the market daily. People have been talking about the WLS for two years or more. It will definitely have an impact on the market whether it's passed or not.

In the meantime I will try and compete in the current system the best way that I know possible.

And on that note I cannot sign up for an account at pool.com. Won't let me submit my information. Anyone else having this problem?? :cry:

 

[stuff]

I signed also up, but I see that this is again some kind auction system again.

 

[Spider]

yep, it's like a Namewinner that costs more money. Aint no $8.75 domains here.

 

[actnow]

Many of the names that drop daily are not worth 8. , much less than $ 60. And, all of these new grabbers are increasing our chance of catching a name.

We are all doing a lot of complaining. But, I bet BD, Cayman and HongKong are complaining more.

 

[888]

Originally posted by actnow
We are all doing a lot of complaining. But, I bet BD, Cayman and HongKong are complaining more.

Agreed, more competition is good, add a few more drop catchers and the big boys will really get annoyed :razz:.

 

[clemzonguy]

and the big boys will really get annoyed

What I think you really mean is that they will just start to use the same services and annoy you instead!! :laugh:

 

[888]

Originally posted by clemzonguy
What I think you really mean is that they will just start to use the same services and annoy you instead!! :laugh:

Not a problem, that's part of the game. I see BD is using Snap, NW and eNom, but they're missing names from Namefox, Dropcatcher, Dropwizard, Nicgenie, Thefirstname, Pool.com, Godaddy.... :laugh:

 

[DomainGoon]

I'm not totally clear on how the Pool.com auction system works.

It looks like they started an auction after they caught a domain name for me?

Is this legal under ICANN if that's what's going on? Can they auction names after they catch them? I thought it had to be done before the name dropped to be legal?

Does anyone understand how the Pool.com system works exactly with the auctions?

Can you just wait to see what names they catch and then go bid on them?

I'm confused.

 

[stuff]

I think if there are two or more people who backordered the same domain name, then there will be an auction for that name? If only You got it in Your list then $60 ? Am I right?

 

[E=MC2]

Originally posted by stuff
I think if there are two or more people who backordered the same domain name, then there will be an auction for that name? If only You got it in Your list then $60 ? Am I right?

correct.
which means that almost every name they get will be auctioned, if you are the only person to have back ordered that name it is probably not worth the 60$ they will charge you for getting it.