Potential LL .com Stolen !

[maroulis]

Do you think the Original Owners are sitting in front of DNF live screen watching their names come up in discussions, it is really funny. Many Domain owners doesn't even know that DNF exists, they are all not businessmen buying/selling domains.

When you said that you got it from a so called genuine transaction, what is it? I ask this because you have shown good intent to return it to the real owner.

I smell fish now until you prove that you are honest. Why we need proof? it is because you got involved in this thread(I am not so good in arguing, my English is not that good) Look back at your posts.

I feel Like you are the Fake Michael Ginn and real Daniel Gonclaves or all made up!

Yes it is fact of life, when issues come up we have to explain and prove our innocence. Please do not get offended by all this, just bring on the facts.

The only fact is that this is NOT the first time Daniel has stolen a domain.
Daniel you got VERY BIG BALLS to play the innocent victim here..

 

[nametrader]

One more thing, some might think why it itched LJP in first place when the owner is silent, well he smelt Fish as the thief is residing at DNF allegedly so this has merit and this thread will not be closed.

Stealing something is bad, stealing a chocolate is cool, stealing a domain sucks.

For the record this thread started to itch me now as I hate it.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I cannot say much more on the matter except for the fact I believe the name was stolen after investigating. People who buy names rightfully and with documented proof do not suddenly say they agree it was stolen when confronted, I was given a false contact number for Michael by you Daniel, I was contacted by 2 fake Michael Ginn's via a NEW yahoo email(s) I was called a second time ( lastnight ) by a fake Michael Ginn again trying convince me a second time and twice via email so 4 times in total. Both numbers newly created to mislead me, I was not born yesterday. The whois clearly shows ONLY you Daniel as taking control of the name from Michael Ginn, switching whois to Michael again once confronted, you saying I was correct in my assumption and you had given it back and then changing the whois admin email to YOUR email and transfering the name out to GD and using private whois. Your actions are what lead me to believe I am correct, no man on the planet goes through these troubles on a legit purchase, it wouldnt make any sense.

I am not slandering your name, I am stating FACTS, all backed up as I have kept everything, ebay transcripts, gmail exchanges and PM's here. You willing admit it was stolen on more then one occassion. Even if the whois reflected Michael again tonight it means jack shit. I am not making any claim, the evidence is !

Here is what transpired in the whois for those to follow....

Domain: qy.com - Domain History
Cache Date: 2007-10-15
Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM

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Registrant:
Michael Ginn
2258 15th Street
San Francisco, CA 94114
US
(415) 431-6525

Domain Name: QY.COM

Administrative Contact:
Ginn, Michael [email protected]
2258 15th Street
San Francisco, CA 94114
US
(415) 431-6525


Domain: qy.com - Domain History
Cache Date: 2007-10-17
Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM

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Registrant:
QY.COM
PO Box 343
Union, NJ 07083
US
8887621155

Domain Name: QY.COM

Administrative Contact:
.COM, QY [email protected]
PO Box 343
Union, NJ 07083
US
8887621155


Domain: qy.com - Domain History
Cache Date: 2007-10-23
Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM

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( The whois changes BACK to Michael Ginn when Daniel states I was correct and the name was stolen but I called Directnic and confirmed the name was still in a NJ account )


Registrant:
Michael Ginn
2258 15th Street
San Francisco, CA 94114
US
(415) 431-6525

Domain Name: QY.COM

Administrative Contact:
Ginn, Michael [email protected]
2258 15th Street
San Francisco, CA 94114
US
(415) 431-6525


Domain: qy.com - Domain History
Cache Date: 2007-10-31
Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM

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Registrant:
Michael Ginn
2258 15th Street
San Francisco, CA 94114
US
(415) 431-6525

Domain Name: QY.COM

Administrative Contact:
Ginn, Michael [email protected] ( Notice admin email addition 2006 a known Daniel Goncalves email )
2258 15th Street
San Francisco, CA 94114
US
(415) 431-6525


Domain: qy.com - Domain History
Cache Date: 2007-11-04
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.

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Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: QY.COM
Created on: 07-May-96
Expires on: 08-May-11
Last Updated on: 03-Nov-07

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599


My gut tells me the call lastnight was to convince me the real Michael Ginn was getting the name back and moved to godaddy and private whois for security. Problem is I am too smart to fall for that shit and the transfer took place too soon ( before the call ). The next call was when today Daniel to tell me it was all taken care of..... :lol:

LOOK AT THIS !!!


When used for good Jay's registant tool is wonderful ! I searched the email [email protected] the one associated to Daniel and this domain from what I gathered, he cannot deny it is him and look what I found ....

Domain: profreedom.com - Domain History
Cache Date: 2007-04-13
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.

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Registrant:
rob smith
123 Mountainside Ave
Newark, New Jersey 07101
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: PROFREEDOM.COM
Created on: 22-Jul-99
Expires on: 22-Jul-07
Last Updated on:

Administrative Contact:
smith, rob [email protected] SAME EMAIL
123 Mountainside Ave
Newark, New Jersey 07101
United States
9735512222

Domain: profreedom.com - Domain History
Cache Date: 2007-11-03
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.

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Registrant:
EliteHost, LLC
PO Box 343
Union, New Jersey 07083
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: PROFREEDOM.COM
Created on: 22-Jul-99
Expires on: 22-Jul-08
Last Updated on: 22-Jul-07

Administrative Contact:
Goncalves, Daniel [email protected]
EliteHost, LLC
PO Box 343
Union, New Jersey 07083
United States
8003700456



Two questions arise, who the hell is Rob Smith if we know damn well the email is YOURS, second question is obvious if you clain Rob Smith sold you the name profreedom.com you are an out right LIAR because the man who sales you a domain cannot have YOUR email ! Explain this purchase !

You messed with the wrong invstigator Daniel. Should have just given the name back from the start, greed is going to nail you.

 

[Theo]

Unless Michael Ginn was shot dead on a cold September night while returning home from a Detroit nightclub, the domain will be claimed sooner or later.

 

[katherine]

Let's not forget a few vital facts here.

This thread was opened on 22-Oct, that is two weeks ago.
The name QY.COM was clearly mentioned. Obviously the current holder/hijacker read this thread and promptly faked the whois to reflect past ownership. Nice try but not enough.
At the same time he was busy trying to peddle the name on ebay for a quick sale. The actual name was concealed and when the listing began to draw the heat it was pulled out from ebay.
Still danielg has failed to come out and post in this thread until he was outed.
Yesterday the name has been transfered to godaddy and has whois privacy on it. That is a suspicious pattern to say the least.
This thread looks so aliengg-like but this time we are dealing with a different person.

JP has done his homework and I have my own reasons that lead me to the same conclusions. Danielg is aware that the domain is not totally kosher.
BTW if I were accused of being a scammer I would fight for my reputation.
At this point I am not satisfied. 'Adios' is not an answer I can accept, we are only getting started. Danielg please be ready to supply some proof.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I have added to my last reply post #43 at the bottom another domain name found with suspicious activity ! One thing I have learned in the years I have exposed thefts, where there is one there is more !

 

[maroulis]

hahaha! hilarious, I guess that settles that... the last nail in the coffin!!!

 

[nametrader]

I feel they have stolen this name presumably from Micheal Ginn who is unaware of all this domain hijacks and thefts that are going on. He probably forgot about this name or he is not the one who monitors his domains on day to day basis.

Here the alleged thief got a chance to get some one to act as Micheal Ginn to cover things up, that is he is just attempting to justify to LJP and other that come to know this issue now that the name is being given back to real owner Michael Ginn.

But the fact is the name is just going to remain in the theif's pirate club under disguise.

Only solution to this issue is the real Owner has to show up. Otherwise the alleged thief can continue partying with the new gem he's just stolen though this joy is momentary until things start to bust one by one.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I feel they have stolen this name presumably from Micheal Ginn who is unaware of all this domain hijacks and thefts that are going on. He probably forgot about this name or he is not the one who monitors his domains on day to day basis.

Here the alleged thief got a chance to get some one to act as Micheal Ginn to cover things up, that is he is just attempting to justify to LJP and other that come to know this issue now that the name is being given back to real owner Michael Ginn.

But the fact is the name is just going to remain in the theif's pirate club under disguise.

Only solution to this issue is the real Owner has to show up. Otherwise the alleged thief can continue partying with the new gem he's just stolen though this joy is momentary until things start to bust one by one.

Exactly, also look at profreedom.com, same email ! post #43.

 

[JMJ]

A good lesson to be learned here is to not use free email services in your whois/domain accounts. Especially ones that expire after periods of time when you don't log in. Most of the names that have been stolen I've seen in the past have been from free email services. In particular Yahoo.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I think what Bender meant...
Do you offer service for a fee to track down owner of domain names?

Oh sorry Bender, no never have. I could but it is something I do for myself and victims.

 

[sashas]

if this Daniel dude did buy the name legitimately from Michael Ginn, I'm sure he must've used Escrow for such a large transaction. And if he had used Escrow.com, then the closing statement for the transaction can be made readily available. If Daniel did buy the name legitimately, he can just pm JP the closing statement and the case would be solved, wouldn't it?

 

[Devil Dog]

Highly unlikely that proof would be provided, with all the tap-dancing going on here.

if this Daniel dude did buy the name legitimately from Michael Ginn, I'm sure he must've used Escrow for such a large transaction. And if he had used Escrow.com, then the closing statement for the transaction can be made readily available. If Daniel did buy the name legitimately, he can just pm JP the closing statement and the case would be solved, wouldn't it?

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I notice he removed Elitehost LLC from his signature and profile.

 

[nametrader]

Do you really care? his actions are only making his situation worse. Everything is there for the record. May be you save the page here

http://web.archive.org/web/20060616104839/elitehost.net/contact.html

It might prove useful has the Address instead of a postbox that is there right now.

I am ready to take the blame(or any legal penalty if that happens) for making it public, yes I feel the alleged is the thief here.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Thanks NT, no worries his real address and new addresses are noted. No legal issues to worry about, it was made available by him for all the public to see even on other sites and whois .

Besides qy.com and profreedom.com I was curious when setup.net went up for sale by Daniel and then suddenly closed and offered by nitro4 for much less, then nitro4 closed that sale at 2:32 today just as page 3 of this thread kicked off. I do not believe setup.net to be stolen at all as I have not looked into it , just funny how that went down. Wonder if nitro4 can explain I see you reading this thread nitro4 did you buy setup.net or is he having you sale it now ?

 

[Poker]

Not meant as a comment on the merits of this "case", but it's interesting to watch as communties begin to take shape online so do forms of social justice. This thread could be viewed a modern day tar and feathering

Hot tar was either poured or painted onto the person while he (rarely she) was immobilized. Then the victim either had feathers thrown on him or was rolled around on a pile of feathers so that they stuck to the sticky tar. Often the victim was then paraded around town on a cart or a rail. The feathers would stick to the tar for days, making the person's degradation clear to the public and ongoing. The aim was to hurt and humiliate a person enough to leave town and cause no more mischief.​

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

No tar, no feathers, just a stolen name which now looks like two ( profreedom.com ) and the need for a community to be protected and made aware I am sure there are more. This guy had AMPLE opp. to return the name and walk.

I even discovered on the namepros thread where he states the following...

uhh ok...Dan Louvado is/was a customer of mine. I already told him to cut it out.

sorry about that.

is a down right lie as well, we assumed this already and I proved it via whois links but now I have discovered the reason he used Louvado as a last name is because it is and not 100% sure but close to it, it is his mothers families name or maiden name.

Read the thread.

http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/242301-elitehost-net-possible-appraisal-scam.html

 

[Theo]

I just noticed the DNF clock needs to be set 1 hour back.

 

[sashas]

I just noticed the DNF clock needs to be set 1 hour back.

lol

regarding setup.net, I looked into it. It was bought in July at TDNAM, the same month danielG got it appraised here. So that looks legitimate, unless they were selling stolen domains at TDNAM