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Predator NameMedia is going to attach again?

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Bill Roy

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The 'industry' (if one can call it that) is definately becoming pyramid shaped.

At the moment I would imagine many if not all of the main players are evaluating every single week where they stand in relation to one another, each will be looking to make the move on the other in a take-over bid. NameDrive, as one of these players, will want to keep its assets fairly liquid as will the others, so as to be able to pounce when they consider the time correct on one of their competitors. (This is all basic stuff.) The problem though for any of the major players at the moment is that if their assets are not kept in a liquid state they will find themselves out on a limb when a purchasing opportunity arrives, and of course find themselves vulnerable to a take over bid.

I would actually expect mergers to occur fairly soon, not buy-outs or take overs, but the joining of two (maybe three at the outside) major players together. This would vastly increase the purchasing power of the new joint company as the assets would be merged. This is the stage of the 'game' I think we are at now. In the meantime every smaller company is liable to an approach from the big guys.

Having said the above, and using the mining industry as an historic model, it may well be that a second teir player in the industry manipulates the take over of one of the top players. This would be possible only with backing on a huge scale but may occur if the financial world (most probably led by venture capitalists) realises the potential growth in the industry.

Is this a good thing? As always the answer has to be 'yes' and 'no'.

A more structured industry will lead to the possibility of increased profits, whilst on the downside names are likely to be registered literally by the 10,000 or 100,000 and just held, irrespective of quality, because of the power of a monopoly. (An extreme example would be this. Say a domain costs $10 to register - nice round figure - then to register 1,000,000 domains annually only costs $10,000,000 - now advertising income by 2011 is expected to reach $30 - $40 billion dollars on the internet, it is not rocket science to see that mass domain ownership is like a license to print money. Obviously prime domains will cost a lot more to buy on the aftermarket but these will be valued as such and when bought by the major players are unlikely to see the light of day ever again.)

As a domainer with no hope of being a 'main player' I am lucky to already be established in the industry, I feel that those that are not part of it within the next year or two (at maximum) will have missed the boat so to speak. It is like any gold rush, the first in generally make the claims on the best sites, then people like me who join late can find 'some' good finds but have to work to mine them out, those that come in the third wave find that the big companies have bought up everything around and there is nothing left apart from the odd piece of gold dust.

So on balance my vote would be it is good for us already in the industry but not for those who come aboard late on the stories of easy money to be made.
 

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hey, you can reg namemedia.tv (which is available) and screw the bu$tards for some dollar

That is a brilliant idea and a very professional suggestion.
Also put your domains for sale on that site.

It would also be beneficial if you contact them directly stating that you will
not sell it for less than $ xx,xxx.

If they don't immediately jump at your offer. Why don't you put it on Afternic?

It would also be nice if you have a U.S. address but not necessary.
Especially when they take you to U.S. Federal Court for trademark infringement.
 

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This is just the start of an even larger consolidation period IMO, which I think will be great for quality domain owners, albeit make it close to impossible for newbies without big dollars trying to get started. That time is almost gone.

I think a lot of the big consolidation action will be taking place among a select group of domainers and this will continue for some time.

At the moment we have about six ultra high quality mega players:

NameMedia
DemandMedia
Marchex
iREIT
VerticalAxis
NameAdmin

and a larger group of high quality large portfolio owners, who could be either targets or hunters in the next consolidation phase, such as:

Dotzup
Xedoc
Telepathy
MsJello
Tucows
DomSponsor
Fabulous
FMA
Innovation
ModernLTD
WN
MostWanted
DotcomAgency
DomainFinance
eCommerce Adv..(bonkers)

plus others that don't spring to mind now (additions welcome)

Plus, of course the outstanding smaller portfolios (quality over quantity), such as:

Anything
DigiMedia
National A-1
Reflex
Rick S
CES
plus many high quality smaller holders

The real turning point in the industry will come when a major publicly-listed corporation finally realizes that whoever controls the domain space can potentially control the net, or at least leverage it to their advantage. If one company were to buy all of the above (which is quite possible), then we may have real cause for concern in terms of what Francois was saying.

nice post, but one question for you.

where does new.net fit into this picture?
 

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I have so many .coms over there .nets, I would think they would snag my portfolio in a instant...they must like there .net domains better :confused:
 

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well, at least demand media registered their own demandmedia.tv

so it's then name media VS demand media

are they competitors?

looks good to me, in any cases a lil bit of publicity is never bad for my upcoming "In Business We Trust" conception
.. for $25 investment only.


I thought you had a day job? :)whistle: job..lol) You really are reaching lately Angelx666...need a few bucks paypal for food/gas?
 

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well, at least demand media registered their own demandmedia.tv

so it's then name media VS demand media

are they competitors?

looks good to me, in any cases a lil bit of publicity is never bad for my upcoming "In Business We Trust" conception
.. for $25 investment only.

good luck ! simply trying to get the facts straight and get back onto topic
 

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To follow up a couple of points (Francois mentioned about other domain players) my list of big players focused on domain owners, although there is a lot of crossover, ie, the companies I listed operate most of the parking systems, as well as several of the major registers.

Of course in any complete list of major players overall, we can add NetSol, Godaddy, and Sedo. And of course Google and Yahoo standing at the top of the ppc tree and maybe one day the whole domain pyramid. I don't see Name Media is a likely conquerer. And as for new.net or dotMobi or any other extension, they will only ever be very small niche players at best. Dotcom is main street and where the main action will take place.

I
 

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Question 2)

We have the response.
And I have to admit that I like it.
Thanks Adam.

A domain forum is like a media site, it must be independant!

...

Biggedon:

You say: "Who care?"

I care and any domainer should care.
It's never good when a company has a monopole.
When there is no competition what genrally happen is:
- The service start to be of lower quality or without improvements.
- Pricing increase.
...
The one that suffer is the customer and here the customer is the domainer.
This means YOU, ME and MOST of the FORUM VISITORS!
So again, I confirm: I CARE.

...


I hope to get info about the other questions.

maybe shouldn't have said "who cares" s/b "i don't care"


why

nothing I care to do and can do about who or what domain portfolio's they buy, except mine.

that's the nature of businesses, to merge into conglomerates and monopolies.....only to be broken up by the gov. Then reassemble again.


case in point AT&T / MS / All The OIL companies / OPEC

reg fee's won't stay the same forever, so add years now.
gas prices won't stay the same....so go fill up
software prices...the price of OIL and Heating Gas
price of Food and Even Bottled Water is going up

I can't control any of that

I...only care about things that I can control.

sorry if it comes off as negative or anti-come-together-and-fight-namemedia" but really, I could care less.

More power to them and all the rest!

:)
 
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