question about a situation

[smashfactory]

member puts a domain up for auction- gets bids-
THEN decided before the auction was over to pull the auction because he wasnt happy with the bids so far- mind you he said in his auction- if the highest bid is a dollar, it will sell for a dollar-
he pmed asking for higher bids before he pulled it, then he pmed saying someone had a XXX bid- i told him to have the XXX bid be put in the auction-
of course that never happened- he pulled the auction all together saying he wanted over $200.00 for the domain and now it is up for sale in the offers section-

this whole thing just sucks - i was the high bidder at the moment and there were no other higher bids- i am going to leave a negative trader rating because that was just wrong- and no, he did not list anythere that he could pull the auction at anytime-
but i want to know if i should post this in his current listing because who knows if he is gonna pull this crap again on another member-

 

[jazzpetals]

Depends...is seller a newbie? I had a situation occur and since the seller was a newbie, I gave him/her a break and did not post anything negative, I did, however, let him/her know via pm that what occurred was not above-board, so that, hopefully, it will not occur again.

 

[cursal]

>Would leave a neg feedback
>notify mods with link to auction and copy of PM's for proof
>he/she should get violation points from forum.

I wouldn't trash the thread until mods are brought in, maybe they will post in the thread or close it.

Sorry for your loss,
GL

 

[smashfactory]

hey jazz (love the avatar!)
he is a member since july 2006- is still listed as newbie due to few posts- i did inform him tho- even said:
"you look like you are newish-
if you pull an already started auction with bids you can risk a negative feedback and a ding to your reputation-
you said in the listing- if you bid $1, you will win it for $1- if that is the highest bid- this is a no reserve auction-
you cant change it now"

and again after his reply i said again how he should follow the proper protocal-
and in the end he ignored all, pulled the auction and posted it in the offers thread after telling me he wants no less than 200 bucks-

cursal- you are right, i dont want to trash his thread- i just want others to know about the total disregard this guy had and to beware- i will contact the mods

 

[Dale Hubbard]

IMHO it's terrible form and should be shat on from a great height.

 

[JuniperPark]

I've suggested many times that there needs to be a crackdown on the BS going on in the sales threads -- this is one example.

More recently I have been told by a moderator it is now ACCEPTABLE to put fake information in sales thread titles -- check out the 'us states' threads and the 'dictionary words' threads. Such BS is not allowed on other forums -- but it's the very thing that killed eBay for domain sales.

 

[Biggie]

member puts a domain up for auction- gets bids-
THEN decided before the auction was over to pull the auction because he wasnt happy with the bids so far- mind you he said in his auction- if the highest bid is a dollar, it will sell for a dollar-
he pmed asking for higher bids before he pulled it, then he pmed saying someone had a XXX bid- i told him to have the XXX bid be put in the auction-
of course that never happened- he pulled the auction all together saying he wanted over $200.00 for the domain and now it is up for sale in the offers section-

this whole thing just sucks - i was the high bidder at the moment and there were no other higher bids- i am going to leave a negative trader rating because that was just wrong- and no, he did not list anythere that he could pull the auction at anytime-
but i want to know if i should post this in his current listing because who knows if he is gonna pull this crap again on another member-

This member obviously didn't read the rules for that section.

Although "No Reserves" are allowed, one should start the auction at the lowest price you are willing to take for the domain.

That said, you should NOT leave "negative" feedback imo, if no money changed hands.
There have been times when members have made offers on domains which I accepted and sent payment info, only to have them back-out on the deal. And a couple are Exclusive members!

Even so, I did not leave negative feedback or post crap in their other 'wanted' threads.

Why?

Cause they are just a couple more people who are crossed off the list!

Again this is just my opinion as a member.

Now speaking as moderator, you should have reported the thread.

Rule # 8.

8. Complete sales!

According to the terms you explained, he should have honored the sale.

You can still report the current thread of the domain in question, including details and link of original auction thread.

Greed will kill a rep!


Sorry and Thanks!

 

[Dale Hubbard]

Don, that's not acceptable. A deal is a deal. That's the code we have to work by here.

You said:

"There have been times when members have made offers on domains which I accepted and sent payment info, only to have them back-out on the deal."

If that had been me I would have been VERY VERY pissed off and would have raised hell.

 

[smashfactory]

ok i did report it- and even tho no money changed hands i still think i am going to leave a neg rep because down the line that is the only way the next buyer will know what this person did- the thing is, after several pms back and forth with him warning him that this should not be done- he did it anyway- there was intent, not just ignorance- and i would want to know before hand if a member started screwing other members over- if you just brush it off, how does everyone else know and protect themselves?

 

[AlienGG]

I sold a few domains for way too cheap and other people PM me before I made the transfer saying that they could pay more. I could not take it, too bad. My lose was your gain. It's just a business game.

 

[jazzpetals]

In that case, I would post neg. feedback and report to mods, you gave him a chance to redeem himself...in my case, I was offered a free domain name, which I refused, but since the seller offered to redeem his actions with the offer, I decided to drop the situation. Hopefully he learned something.

 

[JuniperPark]

I sold a few domains for way too cheap and other people PM me before I made the transfer saying that they could pay more. I could not take it, too bad. My lose was your gain. It's just a business game.

Same here -- look up TYA.net sale thread.

It shows who has ethics and who doesn't.

 

[smashfactory]

is this something that because biggedon said "he" would not leave neg feedback- if theis guy retaliated and gave me neg feedback- would it be removed from my feedback?

and just for the record- big, i wasnt looking to leave "crap" in his thread- but people should know when a memebr does not do something on the up and up- i would want to know

 

[tonyfloyd]

Acceptable to put up fake info????...are u kidding me???..is this true???? and to top it off a moderator told u this????

I've suggested many times that there needs to be a crackdown on the BS going on in the sales threads -- this is one example.

More recently I have been told by a moderator it is now ACCEPTABLE to put fake information in sales thread titles -- check out the 'us states' threads and the 'dictionary words' threads. Such BS is not allowed on other forums -- but it's the very thing that killed eBay for domain sales.

 

[smashfactory]

so get this! he of course gives me a retaliation feedback- pmed adam about getting it removed- he writes:

Clearly stated I reserve the right to remove the auction if I receive a good offer in auction. Good offer was received. -VE feedback was unneccesary.

and then REMOVED the auction so no one could see it!

well guess what- i took screen shots the day he first pm'ed me- and NO WHERE does it say that now, he is a liar

 

[JuniperPark]

Acceptable to put up fake info????...are u kidding me???..is this true???? and to top it off a moderator told u this????

The moderator: POLiSH

Thread title: All 50 .info US States - including TexasSt.info open to offers

One of the threads:
http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1187837#post1187837

Exact message from POLiSH excusing the fake into in the title:
"I guess what the point is, if he put Texas.info in the title of his thread, yes this would have been misleading but he has but TexasST.info as the title so there is no misleading involved because he is telling the truth. ST is an abbriviation of States and he is selling US States .info's TexasSt.info which he has 100% pointed out in the title of the thread even before you click on it. Nothing is missleading you just need to take the time to read the title correctly."

Bottom line: You CAN put false information in the title, as long as you list a domain name in the title.

so get this! he of course gives me a retaliation feedback- pmed adam about getting it removed- he writes:

Clearly stated I reserve the right to remove the auction if I receive a good offer in auction. Good offer was received. -VE feedback was unneccesary.

and then REMOVED the auction so no one could see it!

well guess what- i took screen shots the day he first pm'ed me- and NO WHERE does it say that now, he is a liar

The upside to what he did is he outed HIMSELF as the jerk! I just looked up your trader profile and it seems the dirty dealer is s2006 !

Bright move, s2006 -- we didn't know who you were before, but now we know!

 

[smashfactory]

this whole episode is really upsetting- i guess people think they can do something wrong, ignore the advice they are doing something wrong, try to erase all evidence, then lie about it-

and then to be indignant about it- man :upset:

 

[smashfactory]

well- turns out one of the mods thought it would be a grand idea to wipe out the retaliation neg feedback i got from this guy AND wipe out the guys neg i gave him-
since no money changed hands, i guess he thought it was a good idea to remove how this guy STOPPED money from changing hands with his lyin ways-

i dont know how we are gonna make things better if we condone poor behavior amongst domainers. i posted how things went here:
http://www.smashfactory.com/bad.htm

am i over-reacting? maybe- i hate lyers- he lied- i cant trust him, wont buy from him-

 

[BostonDomainer]

well- turns out one of the mods thought it would be a grand idea to wipe out the retaliation neg feedback i got from this guy AND wipe out the guys neg i gave him-
since no money changed hands, i guess he thought it was a good idea to remove how this guy STOPPED money from changing hands with his lyin ways-

i dont know how we are gonna make things better if we condone poor behavior amongst domainers. i posted how things went here:
http://www.smashfactory.com/bad.htm

am i over-reacting? maybe- i hate liers- he lied- i cant trust him, wont buy from him-

Yeah, you're over reacting. In any business or industry, there remains these bad apples that makes it difficult some times. Due diligence. You can always appeal the decision by the mod. Unfortunately sometimes you just have to move on.