Question about expiring domain date

[GreatLuv]

Hi,

My question is the following, when you have a domain registered until october 22, when is last time you can py for the domain renewal?

When can anyother can take the domain under his control? and who takes it?

Maybe im not being clear, let me try this way:

1- I owe the following domain: www.goodsearching.com I use this domain to host a searchportal there, and now theres a domainhop portal and is not mine. And i cant acces to the Cpanel anymore cause when i try to get there tru www.goodsearching.com/cpanel also leads me to the same domainhop portal.

2- I register this domain using www.hosting2nv.com service for that and i host my site there also

3- the domain is registered tru onlinenic.com and shows like thos when running a whois in the site:

Registrant :
Luciano Aizxxxxxx [email protected] 4865xxxx
none
Av. Medxxxx 1xxx 16x
Buenos Aires Capital ARGENTINA Cxxxxxxx
Domain Name: GOODSEARCHING.COM {goodsearching.com }
Registration Date : 2003-10-22
Expiration Date : 2004-10-22
Last update :2003-10-22 13:18:05


Domain Name Server:
ns1.domainhop.com
ns2.domainhop.com


Administrator:
Luciano Aizxxxxxx [email protected] 4865xxxx
none
Av. Medxxxx 1xxx 16x
Buenos Aires Capital ARGENTINA Cxxxxxxx


Technical Contact:
Luciano Aizxxxxxx [email protected] 4865xxxx
none
Av. Medxxxx 1xxx 16x
Buenos Aires Capital ARGENTINA Cxxxxxxx

Billing Contact:
Luciano Aizxxxxxx [email protected] 4865xxxx
none
Av. Medxxxx 1xxx 16x
Buenos Aires Capital ARGENTINA Cxxxxxxx

Of course Luciano Aizxxxxxx is me, but
Domain Name Server:
ns1.domainhop.com
ns2.domainhop.com
Use to be diferent of course and also check the domain expiring date Expiration Date : 2004-10-22 and today is 10-21 and i pay the renewal bill this morning.

Is correct that they take control over my site?
I wasnt out of time to pay for the renewal?
How can i get the domain back?

Any help is welcome.

Thanks.

 

[Dave Zan]

Hi "GreatLuv"!

Welcome aboard!

First off, never mention your domain name on a public forum, as you're now
exposing yourself to countless risks.

Let's tackle your questions one at a time.

My question is the following, when you have a domain registered until october 22, when is last time you can py for the domain renewal?

Registrars keep an expired domain name in their database between 1 to 45
days. At their discretion, they can then delete the expired name anytime.

It is preferable to renew it before it expires, although in some cases, you may
renew it on the expiration date itself.

When can anyother can take the domain under his control? and who takes it?

Once the domain name has been deleted on the registrar level, it stays at the
Registry level for 30 days under Redemption Grace Period (RGP). RGP is meant
to give the last registrant of that domain name one more chance to get the
domain name back.

After 30 days RGP, the domain name goes to Pending Delete for about 5 days,
then becomes available roughly on the 6th day. By then, it's up for grabs by
just about anyone.

2- I register this domain using www.hosting2nv.com service for that and i host my site there also

Do you mean to say you registered your domain name directly at onlinenic or
thru hosting2nv? If the latter, maybe hosting2nv is a reseller for onlinenic.

Only the registrar where the domain name was last registered with can get the
domain name back for you if it got deleted.

Is correct that they take control over my site?
I wasnt out of time to pay for the renewal?

Technically speaking, once a domain name has expired, the registrar has the
"right" to do anything as they see fit. The registrant or owner can only have
"rights" to it if they paid for it, similarl to availing of a club's benefits if you
continue to pay your membership fees.

How can i get the domain back?

Simple. Renew it.

Any help is welcome.

Hope this helps.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

 

[GreatLuv]

Hi,
yeas sure it helps, thanks

but is the expiring date is october 22 why they change it a day earlier? <=guess they have no right to change it before expires.

And is they have a 30 days "Redemption Grace Period (RGP)" o domain is considered expired after this 30 days or before?

Anyway as i understand the "Redemption Grace Period (RGP)" means i have 30 days to renew my domain and before that happens noone can buy it?

Thanks.

 

[Dave Zan]

but is the expiring date is october 22 why they change it a day earlier? <=guess they have no right to change it before expires.

I don't understand. Your WHOIS copy above shows it'll expire on Oct. 22.

And is they have a 30 days "Redemption Grace Period (RGP)" o domain is considered expired after this 30 days or before?

Hmmm, I think you're not really familiar with the terms "registrar" and "registry",
so I'll fill you in.

There is a "Registry" which is the authoritative record holder for each domain
name extensions. There's one for .COM and .NET, another for .ORG, etc.

Each is run by a certain group, depending on certain details I think is best I
don't go into.

Rather than the Registry handle each registration and management, it allows
accredited companies called "registrars" to handle it for them. These registrars
are accountable, up to a certain degree, to the Registry.

From my earlier post, a registrar can keep an expired domain name from 1 to 45
days, popular referred to as the "grace period". That's an additional time given
to the owner to renew it in case he/she wasn't able to do so for some reason.

Depending on the registrar, it can either allow just about anyone to renew it
(to the benefit of the registrant or owner of the domain name :approve: ) or
restrict it only to those who can log inside the domain name account in that
registrar.

Once the registrar decides to let go of the expired name within the 1 to 45 day
limit, the ball will fall into the court of the Registry. The Registry will hold on to
the name by putting it in the Redemption Grace Period for 30 days.

Sometimes the owner may decide he/she wants it back at the last minute...
only to find out the registrar already deleted the name because they couldn't
get renewal payment for it. If in RGP, the registrar can still get it back for the
owner, though it'll cost extra (a penalty fee, so to speak).

As long as the domain name is in RGP, the registrar has the chance of getting
it back only for its last registered owner. No third party can get it...yet.

Anyway as i understand the "Redemption Grace Period (RGP)" means i have 30 days to renew my domain and before that happens noone can buy it?
Thanks.

See above.

Thanks.

You're quite welcome.

 

[GreatLuv]

g yeah lol im not familiar with registran or register


I just want to know if my domain was expired today or not (i think it clearly says that expires on 22 and that means tomorrow) and if they have right to change my site today or not?

I really aprecciate all your explanations, but loking for a staright answer if possible :emba: im kinda dumb with all things what i really need now, is just a simple: "yes, your domain was expired so you can bitch and was a dumb for letting it expired" or "No, I think your domain still active and they change it before actually expires"

Thank you very much.

 

[jazzpetals]

Perhaps it has something to do with the time difference in Argentina? Otherwise...I would say no..they should not have a right to change your nameserver, until the domain actually expires.

 

[Dave Zan]

Perhaps it has something to do with the time difference in Argentina? Otherwise...I would say no..they should not have a right to change your nameserver, until the domain actually expires.

The registrar has the right to do as they please with the name once it expires,
of course.

GreatLuv, sorry I didn't give a direct answer that you really wanted. So let me
say this: yes, your domain name will expire on Oct. 22 based on what you first
stated above.

It's one thing, though, for a domain name to expire. It's entirely different for it
to be deleted.

Are you going to keep the name or not? Because if you are, you might as well
renew it or run the risk of the registrar deleting it prematurely because of your
inaction.

 

[GreatLuv]

Thanks to everyone who reply and give me help! k:

I contact hosting2nv and the isssue is solved already, arty:

But they also didnt understand why my domain was "expired" one day early, hmm wonder why :bandit:

Anyway everything solved, site is back under my control and all i loss was 1 day traffic.

Thanks to everyone agaim!.