Raven.com - stolen name - was sold on Sedo

[Bill Roy]

Focus, Sedo do whatever they want when ever they want (at the moment).

If you still have the notification that you are the winner of the auction then demand the transfer of the domain. Sedo of course will say they have no ability to make the owner transfer it but if the domain holder is in the States surely a court order can be obtained. Demand from Sedo all details of the seller on their records, if they refuse I wonder if a writ of habeus corpus would make them change their minds (remember to use the US address for Sedo. Sedo having an office in the US could prove to be the most damaging thing Sedo ever did because US laws apply to the company - including the parent company)

 

[Focus]

Well, in theory that does all sound magnificent...but remember we are talking about a typo of a major US bank/mortgage website that gets x,xxx hits a month..I can only imagine how well that would go over in court! lol

 

[Bill Roy]

Focus, the post was meant generically and not aimed at inticing you into action personally. Sorry if that is how it came across. But at sometime it will happen and I would definately love a ringside seat when it does!

 

[Focus]

Oh dude I feel ya man..if it was a generic and not a major tm typo I would raise all hell..

 

[rajeevabc]

going through this and the other 'dirty' thread, I feel it is high time to have a check on all the parking cos and dn agents. Somewhere on this forum, all these cos can be rated not only for their performances, but also for their business ethics. we need to remember that these players are few of the largest realtors on the internet, and their wrongdoings can affect the internet realestate.

 

[jberryhill]

Indeed, this is like throwing crumbs to a person that has little knowledge of the market in order to take the domain under the veil of an ongoing theft.

Yep.

 

[Theo]

Even if the legitimate owner signed an agreement, could it be nullified by a civil court due to the circumstances of distress that the agreement was signed under? It's apparent that the legitimate owner has had little legal or technical advice on the asset's worth.

The buyer appears to have rushed to "buy her silence" once he became aware of the domain theft. Provided of course that he wasn't aware of the theft to begin with. He seems rushed to sell as well.

 

[Shaggy]

Very true, he does seem to be rushing the sale, like he is scared of losing it if he holds on to it.

If I ended up owning the name and I felt I did it legally, I would not rsuh to sell it, rather hold on to it for at least a few months, to see if traffic revenue was good.

 

[Theo]

[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]"I am not an expert in buying or selling domain. There was no way for me to know that this was stolen"

[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica]That contradicts him putting it for sale on eBay for $1,000,000[/FONT][FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica][/FONT]

 

[GAMEFINEST]

What comes around goes around ....that person has no shame....if it was me, i would have glady gave it back to the owner ...if i knew the situation...sad shiiet

 

[jberryhill]

Even if the legitimate owner signed an agreement, could it be nullified by a civil court due to the circumstances of distress that the agreement was signed under?

Not duress, no... I don't see any indication of that.

Fraudulent inducement, maybe, if the Sedo transaction was essentially to launder the name and if the "buyer" represented himself as having been hoodwinked.

 

[Theo]

The problem is, the Sedo auction is complete and the money has left their escrow. The thief received $3,500 minus 10% and the buyer, who might or might not be who he says he is, owns a domain after buying off the silence of the legitimate owner for an undisclosed amount.

So now what?

 

[Raider]

Fraudulent inducement, maybe, if the Sedo transaction was essentially to launder the name and if the "buyer" represented himself as having been hoodwinked.

"Domain laundering" just the words I was looking for, this is just what the hijacker did.

This reminds me of when I had my purse stolen, it was in a shopping cart, I turned my head for a minute and the shopping cart was gone, so why did the thief take the shopping cart? because if she was caught before exiting the store, she can say "OH, I'm sorry, I thought this was my cart"

Thieves are always looking for outs in the event they get caught.

 

[Theo]

More and more the situation stinks, as seen in the Domainstate thread that has now reached 9 pages!

 

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It makes me think that 1. The domain name ment something, atleast to him and 2. if it did mean something to him, would she have sold it, knowing that it obviously had value?

 

[locos]

I'd never turn down a good beer, especially a Labatt Blue

The buyer actually came forth in the Domainstate thread with this statement:

John -- do you know if the sedo buyer actually settled with the real owner? If not, I'm going to step up to the plate and front the UDRP filing fee, if you're kicking in to do the UDRP for free.

 

[jberryhill]

John -- do you know if the sedo buyer actually settled with the real owner?

No I don't. I'm waiting to hear back from the tech who had posted in the DS thread.

No I don't. I'm waiting to hear back from the tech who had posted in the DS thread.

The tech contacted me this morning, and stated that she had accepted payment in resolution of the claim.

 

[jberryhill]

No I don't. I'm waiting to hear back from the tech who had posted in the DS thread.

The tech contacted me this morning, and stated that she had accepted payment in resolution of the claim.

 

[financialtraffic]

I have a feeling the payment/settlement was well under "fair market value."

 

[Theo]

What if she were made aware of the real market value of the domain, which is - in my professional opinion - at least $250k ?