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WhoDatDog said:
Anyone would sell sell names making $2,500 per month for two years revenue is an idiot. In fact, you could keep the names for 24 months by just waking up....and keep the money, too. The bottom line is that many of these low-ball buyers and appraisers have the ulterior motive to keep these multiples low. Many are laughing all the way to the bank when they get great deals like this.

Don't be a sucker. Keep you names until people offer a price that isn't a joke. Sometimes it's a buyer's market and sometimes its a seller's market. To sell at two years revenue is to admit to one of two things: 1) The PPC income is fraudulent, or 2) You have no concept of the time value of money.

I wouldn't sell for two years revenue under any circumstances. I would rather delete the names and be broke....out of principle. It is not your job to make someone else a millionaire.

Great portfolios get 8-10 years revenue.....the buyers are laughing as well, because those names have more value than just the measly PPC.


Thanks for the post.

The thing is I was wondering how it would go when you are in
sudden need of money (for e.g. a private matter)
 
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Typos are risky domains and the buyer takes all the risks, as they could shell out thousands on domains, only to get hit with the Parking Program removing them due to complaints or worse yet you get C&Ds and lose the domains.

This was a hypothetical situation where the domainer did not like the answer, and I am confident that any serious domainer would agree that 8 years revenue is not worth the risk for a portfolio of 95% TYPOS.
 

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WhoDatDog said:
Anyone would sell sell names making $2,500 per month for two years revenue is an idiot. In fact, you could keep the names for 24 months by just waking up....and keep the money, too. The bottom line is that many of these low-ball buyers and appraisers have the ulterior motive to keep these multiples low. Many are laughing all the way to the bank when they get great deals like this.

Don't be a sucker. Keep you names until people offer a price that isn't a joke. Sometimes it's a buyer's market and sometimes its a seller's market. To sell at two years revenue is to admit to one of two things: 1) The PPC income is fraudulent, or 2) You have no concept of the time value of money.

I wouldn't sell for two years revenue under any circumstances. I would rather delete the names and be broke....out of principle. It is not your job to make someone else a millionaire.

Great portfolios get 8-10 years revenue.....the buyers are laughing as well, because those names have more value than just the measly PPC.

Way off.....this portfolio is of typos/possible TM names , if you want to buy these kind of portfolios for more than 24 months then I want to round some up for you.
 

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DNjet said:
Way off.....this portfolio is of typos/possible TM names , if you want to buy these kind of portfolios for more than 24 months then I want to round some up for you.

I read a lot of WIPO cases, though I only have a handful of typos/trademark-type names out of 2,000 names. The bottom line is that on a percentage basis there haven't been a lot of WIPO disputes and/or lawsuits.

Two years revenue for these names is financial rape....moral arguments aside. If the name of this game is to make money then the buyer gets much of the best of it in this situation.

When My Space starts aggresively going after typos (like they have been), then 24 months might be a good deal for the seller. You simply have to do the math as to what your risk/reward will be. Those who are no good in math give the names away. Those who a good at math buy them cheap.

There are companies who will lend money against names (and take possession) until you pay it off, but they are mostly interested in Generics. Your best bet is to find a fellow domainer who has names at Fabulous (and who has similar names), and try to work out a deal. It won't be easy, but if the names are that good you might be able to get some $$$$ upfront.
 

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WhoDatDog said:
When My Space starts aggresively going after typos (like they have been), then 24 months might be a good deal for the seller. You simply have to do the math as to what your risk/reward will be. Those who are no good in math give the names away. Those who a good at math buy them cheap.

So what happens if a casino gets agressive on its typos the same as MySpace, how can you predict that scenario?

And yes you have to do the math, and the math is 2 years revenue is more than fair for this risk. Paying more than 2 years is not maths, its down right reckless, and somewhat ignorant.
 

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evibe said:
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This is a typo portfolio and NO trademarks.


Let me ask it this way:

A portfolio is making 2500 a month.
How many years revenue is normal?

1 year? 2 years? 3 years? etc...

Just for the idea

2 years tops ,I understand what you are saying about the no obvious trademarks evibe, but if you have been around this game long enough then you know that you can get into a battle and C&D after C&D even without trademarks on the domains, they can simply come after you on the cybersquating law (confusingly similar), I have had 3 C&D's in the last 30 days as a matter of fact, so it can cost you thousands to fight and possibly win , or possibly lose.
 
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