For Sale SnapNames Script

[JuniperPark]

Act -

I like your Walmart analogy, but I think even that was too kind... it's more like:

A new store opens up, with BETTER stuff than Walmart, but you still like Walmart and stick with them,

You get into Walmart, do your shopping, and take items to the checkout. They run your credit card. Then they tell you that 9 of the 10 items you picked out are "display only", and are returned to the shelf! You are charged for the 1 item.

Next time you have 10 items to buy will you:

A) Go back to that Walmart to play the "on display" game, or

B) Shop anywhere BUT Walmart

PLEASE write them about this, not to be mean, but to let them know WHY you are taking your business elsewhere. As a business owner myself, I certainly would like to know if I did something so objectionable that people refused to do business with me.

- Dale

 

[actnow]

Juniper, you are referencing the old "catalog Store" business (Best Products, etc.).

Why is Snap penalizing their prime customer base because of a couple offenders? Why don't they limit the searches to 500 searches a day? They can easily do that by logging ip addresses. And, if the offender wants to own a lot of ip? That is ok. Because, they can be pin point offenders very quickly. and, ban that ip address.

 

[JuniperPark]

Act -

Agreed... it's not that hard to block the scripters without blocking your customers. There are lots of ways to do it, and you suggested a good one.

- Dale

 

[Domainut]

I agree, I have spent a few thousand with SN, and today was baffled by the fact that It took so damn long to check snaps. I entered 50 names into the bulk check, and saw that all were available, Firts I became excited until I was asked to enter my credit card info, and find out that 49 of the 50 names were not available. This industry takes a lot of time, and money.

I definitely will not be purchasing any more snapbacks, until this is resolved. This takes far too much time, and is not worth it, especially since the success ratio for SN has been dropping.

I started off with SN at 9 out of 10 catches, and now am sitting at 14 of 137.

Keep it the way it was, and find another way to stop the robots, I check over 2,000 names a day normally at SN.

Another option may be to require a membership to be able to access the records, this may hurt too, but not as badly, the signup is free anyway. Then simply ban the accounts that do too many searches without purchasing for numerous days in a row.

Just my two cents.
Sid

 

[tonyk2000]

Please don't forget - it is still possible to check availability before actual purchase. Just submit names one by one in single-name-search mode.
New system is not easy to use, but this MAY improve thier success ratio.
Lost cusomers? Well snap makes most money with a few players like ult, buydomains and nameadmininc. Those selected customers would not be lost and they may have some special deals or password-protected areas.
Small customers like myself are still able to purchase available snaps for names they want. Yes I will need to spend much more time to select names one-by-one, but I'll better do so. I maintain about 10-20 snaps at any given time and I do not see serious problem selecting a few new names for next exchange or purchase.
THANKS SNAPNAMES FOR THIS CHANGE, now it is time to show better performance.

 

[JuniperPark]

Tony -


Unless they changed the system today, they 1 by 1 snap checks are returned "available" as well. They seem to be helbent on screwing with everyone in getting back at the scripters....

 

[tonyk2000]

Some members wish to stop using snaps?
Good names will be backordered at snapnames anyway. No lost money for snapnames... but better chance to improve performance.

 

[tonyk2000]

JuniperPark: I checked it a few minutes ago.
Logged out from snapnames. Entered the domain with my own snap on it. Asked for graphical code. Entered the code. Snap is "not available". Fine.

 

[JuniperPark]

I just discovered SnapNames is not even attempting to register names that dropped days ago:

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36837

It might be time to demand refunds, folks.

 

[radioz]

I agree with the new graphically check requirement. As much as I know that some of the people meant well in scripting the site and providing information to DNF members and others but the truth is that this information should be relatively confidential to protect Snap Names customers privacy. I must admit that I have looked at those lists and got a couple of names through Go Daddy by using them. I never would have known about those names otherwise. That was unfair to the Snap Names customers who had reserved those names. Go Daddy may not have even been in the fray without them, in my case.

There should be no need to enter a credit card number to check anything, of course. Also, there should be some way to check, say, 10-25 names at a time in their bulk check system. If scripting should somehow continue, then they, unfortunately, will need to lower that number. They should try that first though.

The need for this is sort of unfortunate, again, especially, since at least some of the scripting wasn't intentionally malicious but it will help make YOUR Snap potentially of more value. It may also help SN perform better in a world of almost absurd competition.

 

[lotsofissues]

Originally posted by tonyk2000
Some members wish to stop using snaps?
Good names will be backordered at snapnames anyway. No lost money for snapnames... but better chance to improve performance.

Some domainers in this thread have either said they will no longer buy anymore or consumption will be much lower. That def. means there are going to be less snapped names.
This will not help performance. Under the current system where the order of drops is published -- volume of orders no longer matters.

 

[Steen]

Originally posted by JuniperPark
It might be time to demand refunds, folks.

#1. DEMANDING a refund is never the right way to go about getting one.

#2. SN doesnt give refunds And MC/Visa may take a bit of convincing.

 

[Nexus]

I'm happy they've curbed scripting this way.

Having my Snaps broadcast and put in lights on a Pool.com "hotlist" isn't my idea of fair competition. If using SnapNames means someone will suddenly give my name auto-mated "attention" (running a droplist against available snaps), I'd have to avoid using them completely. Oh, well. If you want a snap, BUY the snap, don't make purchasing decisions at OTHER drop services based off of my SnapBack.

Come on, now. Anyone thinking this is a PURELY stupid move should rethink it a little bit. If you're really a SnapNames customer, I don't think this changes much. If it does, please present an air-tight scenario where you're being screwed for trying to give SnapNames your business.

If someone wants to sell their GOOD snaps for a "refund", I'm sure you won't have a problem unloading them.

Thanks,
~ Nexus

 

[mole]

I think Snapnames is preparing for the WLS. Now let those so-called big players charge the WLS system with scripts k:

 

[WebCat]

Originally posted by devildude8989


#1. DEMANDING a refund is never the right way to go about getting one.

#2. SN doesnt give refunds And MC/Visa may take a bit of convincing.

Totally agree! Using good manners never hurts!

Of course, there ARE situations where a stronger hand may become necessary, but expend other options first!

IMHO,
WebCat
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[Nexus]

I think getting mad at SnapNames for protecting you isn't the anser. Other "methods" of "protecting" themselves are hard to come by. If you think "Limiting each IP address to 50 queries" is smart... its not. I think Whois-search can tell you that IP spoofing isn't so hard to get vicitimized by. How about "Limiting each account to 50 queries"? You can sign up for as many accounts as you like, and they're free. Honestly, if even 25-50 snapback subscriptions are compromised from time to time, it is TOO MANY. Having the scripting stopped as decisively as possible is the best way in my opinion.

~ Nexus

 

[mole]

Don't you ever sleep, Nex? :-D

 

[Nexus]

Originally posted by mole
Don't you ever sleep, Nex? :-D

Trying to improve on that... I've heard its not healthy not to.

~ Nexus

 

[Bashar]

Originally posted by .
Jeff is already sending 30k queries to NW. Snapcheck is not dead!

whois Jeff ?

 

[Nexus]

Originally posted by Bashar
whois Jeff ?

guy running snapcheck.
~ Nexus