For Sale The Drops are Boring

[mole]

6 million .coms have been regged, so that adds up.

6 milllion more .COM crap to the heap of crap. Can you prove that .COM prices have generally risen since pre-2000's peak? No, you can't. Did you know that advertising.com sold for $1m pre 2000, not you didn't. You didn't know two hoots about all the mega sales going on at the time except for those public exhibitionists shills. Look at .COM sales now. You get the ocassional sparkle here and there, you read DNJ, and you think, god things are looking up!!! Crap, I say.

 

[Martin23]

o lets look at the xxx,xx biz sales, mole you always talk rubbish, ive been reading your comments on ds for the last couple of years, before you used to say biz was crap now it rules.

Yes and i do have graph trends to say that sale are going back up now, just look at the maount of sales sedo has done this year etc.

6 million .com regs in time of biz and info, whatever they are, shows people would rather have a .com then biz or info.

Get real!

 

[mole]

mole you always talk rubbish, ive been reading your comments on ds for the last couple of years, before you used to say biz was crap now it rules.

That's not rubbish, that's called confusing the competition, which ain't such a stupid thing to do if you think about it for a second :devil: Anyway, please quote when I said .BIZ was crap after over 5,000 posts here and 3,000 posts there.

6 million .com regs in time of biz and info, whatever they are, shows people would rather have a .com then biz or info.

That's bs and you know it. After 20 milllion of .COM names registered years ago, I bet you think there are still a lot of short killer generic dictionary key words available to be regged and more importantly to be sold for, heaven forbid, $10/piece at the Sales thread here. Morons, thank god for them.

 

[Martin23]

Yea,

 

[Theo]

There is a market for everything, prime example: high dollar sales for .de domains that you and me don't give a mole's ass about :-D

 

[mole]

Now don't you get into that .ws shite you hear... :-D

 

[Theo]

I am not touching .ws with a 10 foot mole :-D

 

[clemzonguy]

I am not touching .ws with a 10 foot mole :-D

Good idea

 

[peekaboo]

What about the proliferation of Internet users?



And a few billion more users.

ain't we little too enthusiastic? there are 6 billion people on the planet now, and i'm sorry i just don't see a few billion more internet users in next 3-4 years

unfortunately, i happen to agree with richard's post. i also feel that domains in general will go down in value as new domain extensions and new internet technologies, and new ways of finding information on the net are introduced. obviously the last ones to go down will be dot coms, so i still see a good future for them (at least in short to mid term, if for no other reason then because of so many billions of branded business are heavily tied to them: amzon.com, yahoo.com etc...) but that doesn't mean that everything else and all other domain extensions will be worthless. there will always be different values for different people, and that will always drive a demand for certain names and extensions.

but once again, i believe that in future speculation on domain names alone will not be enough to make riches, or even living, as website development and website speculation should ultimately replace domain spec.

but then again i could be way off. when you think about it, despite recent technological advances we still continue to use early 20th century inventions. we ride trains, drive cars, watch tv.. for 50+ years straight, so who is to say that 50 years from now we still won't buy books at amazon.com, or read about latest domain sales at dnjournal.com.. or that we won't hear from mole trying to confuse us with the valuations of the latest icann domain extensions?

finally, i think we shouldn't be overly concerned of the future, nor we should feel overly confident. i think the truth shall ultimately lay somewhere in the middle of that, as it usually always does.

ps

i would also like to hear other members and their opinions on this topic?

 

[seeker]

Even when the new gtlds are introcuced, I believe it will take time for the public to accept and get used to them.
.info and .biz are just in the past 6 months finally getting 'brandable'.
Thats almost 3 years after there intoduction.
So, If the new gTlds are introduced in 2006-7, you are looking at 2010 for tld recognition. By which time, the older ones will be ahead...
Think about it.
The pioneers in any field always have a competitive advantage.
And of course, .com has the ultimate one.

 

[clemzonguy]

i believe that in future speculation on domain names alone will not be enough to make riches, or even living, as website development and website speculation should ultimately replace domain spec.

You cannot develop without a good site.

I seriously doubt any future approved addresses will hold water just look at kids.us, .pro, .name just a few of ones that didn't phase the popularity of .biz or .info. The only ones which will be poplular are .xxx or .sex but why do we really need these? The entire world would be in an uproar if someone decided to uproot the current system which is run by multinational corporations. I don't see what can replace it other than a global turing machine which reads our thoughts, gives us a daily nutritional pill, stamps us with a mark to buy/sell within the system, and then tucks us in to bed at night with socialist mindwash.

I think you will see many new TLDs being used as trendy alternatives moreso as they become popular in the public eye (and they already are). Even my mom who is in her 50's knows what .WS names are. BIZ and INFO are quite commonplace and US needs no explanation whatsoever. I get plenty of decent end-user offers on all of the above now.

Additionally as more people go into broadband territory (e.g. verizon with potential broadband local mobile service plans). You will see a larger demand for indentifying addresses which are easier to remember and which can be linked to personal information. Look at VOIP as the one technology to help bridge this gap. I think there are many dimensions to this as we go towards a one world order or global economy. I think international currencies are the first thing to go rather than internet web address spaces.

What an exciting time to be alive...how will you benefit? :-D

 

[peekaboo]

You cannot develop without a good site.

u mean without a good domain?

of course u can. examples of it are all around you. that's called branding. develop + advertise = recognition, pretty much no matter what the doman is. just look at examples of craig's list, godaddy, google, yahoo, domai, overture, expedia... they are all made up $0 domains.

the biggest excitement for generic names usually comes from resellers, as well as from people who are straped for cash that they can't afford branding. for them, generic names are the only chance to build the legitimate online business with not much upfront advertising costs. it also lends them the air of larger-than-life credibility. so that some pimply geek who operates a generic domain out of his dorm, can feel like a prestigious multinational corp. besides, there is that false belief rooted in many new internet entrepreneurers that as long as they have a generic domain they will have a guaranteed success. while in many cases that might be true, in many, many more it isn't.

so,

#1/ the quality and the meaningness of the offered content is always more important than the look and the sound of it (example: craig's list.) despite what andre agassi's rebel camera commerical from about 10-15 years ago says 'image is NOT everything'.

#2/ all the technical bells and whistles won't help u in long run unless u r able to engage your audience on a human interest level.

 

[clemzonguy]

A lot of the sites which benefitted from branding were early starters prior to 2000. Yahoo led the front with venture capital race early off as did Amazon.com. Google got free publicity from students and persons who started using it before it was commercialized and attracted to the clean look, and good search results. I remember finding answers to test questions almost immediately. Now it's simply based on PR and PPC not quality results necessarily.

What does make sense is to spend money on a quality domain (location, location, location) rather than pumping more money into branding a site (you can do both). I just went back to CreditReport.com again this week. Why? Because I went there the first time and have no reason to go anywhere else.

In specific niche markets having the right keywords in a domain which relate to the product or service you are selling is key. Immediately it tells the person what you are selling and makes it much easier to remember the website. Sure they might get it confused with the .COM but over time people will learn from their mistakes when they get sick of the PPC horse*hit circle jerk sites. Having extensions like BIZ or INFO help set the site far apart from the NET/ORG arena. Any business person in their right mind would try to invest right now in terms which are important to their own business to give them any competitive edge against others who will enter similar markets in years to come.

 

[DomainEngineer]

We own over 1600 domains and almost 200 are non-dot-COMs.

And have no doubt that .COM is the KING and will remain the KING.

I will rather have 2 or 3 word .COM than other extensions.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

 

[A D]

I have to agree with rickkumar, I have thousands of .com's and while people keep trying to convince me of the value of others, I may have only a dozen that are other extensions.

I just am not a believer overall in their value, but that is not say they don't have value.

I will just not invest in anything but .com

-=DCG=-

 

[GiantDomains]

I will just not invest in anything but .com

-=DCG=-

Hence your username

 

[clemzonguy]

I will just not invest in anything but .com

Why not invest in both at the same time? d

 

[actnow]

Why not invest in both at the same time? d

Clem is correct. With the low cost of entry.

Why not diversify?

But, second thought,
It would be wise not to buy any of the other tlds.

I have enough competition. :smartass:

 

[mole]

.COM's "default" navigation value can only be watered down by the semantic web and even much better search engines in the coming months and years. We all know that the key difference in addressing value is what's on the left side of the dot eg sex.com vs sexybabysexybaby1234bab.com. .COM, while still seen as being the extension that started it all, may not be the one that ends it all, especially in certain niche categories eg care.org

I will just not invest in anything but .com

I think that choice lies soley on your chosen domain business model. Being a .COM fan is perfectly fine, but not the only option available today with the new gTLDs .INFO, .BIZ, even the spunky apple pie smell of ccTLD .US and the endearing empire feel of ccTLD .CO.UK.

What's going to change is the diminishing value of .COM as a brain dead taffic generator for the lazy man as "curious onlooker type-in" progressively fade in favor to other more sensible, useful and precise ways of using the Internet like search engines.