closed Tower.es and Other 10 .es Domains

[ansarph]

Hi,

Please appraise My 10 .es Domain Names

Tower.es

Muscle.es

Collection.es

Quartz.es

Accessories.es

Degree.es

Satellite.es

Weight.es

Smoke.es

Luggage.es


Thanks in advance

 

[katherine]

Sorry but I don't see potential in these names. You'd better stick with good Spanish keywords.
And FYI the transfer process for .es domains is bureaucratic, you can't push .es domains like you would a .com.
It's not the end of the world but it's something you need to be aware of. It's no worth the hassle for low value domains, therefore there is no reseller market for .es domains afaik.
Good luck.

 

[ansarph]

New to Domain industry,

Thank you for your valuable information.

 

[amplify]

Well, welcome. You lose some, never give up and then start earning some. Looks like you lost 10 on this one. On to the next. Read the forum and suck in what Katherine had to say about the names.


Some of these names would have some value to some if you were to own:


Muscl.es
Accessori.es
Degre.es
Satellit.es


(Notice that they make an actual English word with the ccTLD and dropping a letter or two from the end, these are called domain hacks)


Better luck next time

 

[ansarph]

Hi,


Thank you For your comments and Suggetion, But as a newbie when i purchased a domain name , only considered the automatic appraisal value of the domain .


Here is the Appraisal values of the Domains From Different Automatic Appraisal Tools .




Domain --- Domainappraisal.co.uk --- Godaddy --- Estibot

tower.es --- 520 --- 748 --- 20000

muscle.es --- 660 --- 704 --- 15000

collection.es --- 160 --- 736 --- 8900

quartz.es --- 770 --- 744 --- 4400

accessories.es --- 730 --- 729 --- 8900

degree.es --- 510 --- 735 --- 8900

satellite.es --- 2030 --- 778 --- 8900

weight.es --- 770 --- 738 --- 16000

smoke.es --- 1020 --- 750 --- 8900

luggage.es --- 1370 --- 736 --- 38000


[ All amounts are in Us Dollar ]








What is your Opinion of automatic appraisal Tools. They Tottally worthless ?

 

[amplify]

I wouldn't say that they're totally worthless if you're new to domaining because it gives you a dollar amount that you can aspire for. However, you're not going to get close to what these tools have to say about some domains and some domains can be undervalued as well (a recent example would be Wh!skey dot Com valued by Estibot at $418K, but sold for $3.1 million). A domain is worth what a buyer will pay for it and what you're willing to sell it for. If you're selling based upon an Estibot appraisal of $38,000 for luggage.es, surely nobody here is going to buy it, even for $38 dollars. That doesn't necessarily ever mean that someone won't buy it for that price. Not to get your hopes up or to crush them either, but I have to revert back to the saying that the domain is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it... and at these estimates, nobody will.

Some of my domains that I've sold are either undervalued or over priced by automatic tools in my opinion, but in the end, I have the final decision on what to sell them for. I walk away from offers and I take others for various reasons.

There are many threads about automatic appraisal tools and the general consensus is that they are worthless. Do some digging on DNF and find out exact opinions why and come up with your own.

The most irritating thing to see are domains for sale with the title "XXXXXXXX.com Estibot Appraisal $XX,XXX MAKE OFFER!"- I don't even take the time to look at the thread, because that's the worst selling tactic/analytic you can use on this forum. Generally speaking, if it's an "$XX,XXX" domain and I make a $XX-$XXX offer on it, the buyer rejects it because they legitimately believe that it's worth that amount of money. Crazies out there... :uhoh:

Good luck, lots of reading and a huge learning curve ahead of you just like any industry (FX, stocks, bonds, etc.). Just stay away from domaining e-books, all they're going to do is tell you the same thing you can find on this forum for the price of a few hand registrations...

 

[katherine]

Yes, automated appraisal tools are worthless. You need to learn what makes a domain valuable, and no tool can teach you that.
An appraisal, even from an educated and experienced domainer, is always a best-case scenario anyway. Do your homework. Look at reported sales, and see what kinds of names do sell, in which TLDs.
Sorry, domaining is much more difficult than just punching domain names into a blackbox.
If domaining was that easy - everybody would be doing it.

 

[amplify]

Yes, automated appraisal tools are worthless. You need to learn what makes a domain valuable, and no tool can teach you that.
An appraisal, even from an educated and experienced domainer, is always a best-case scenario anyway. Do your homework. Look at reported sales, and see what kinds of names do sell, in which TLDs.
Sorry, domaining is much more difficult than just punching domain names into a blackbox.
If domaining was that easy - everybody would be doing it.

This is an example of such, but also backs my opinion as to why they aren't completely worthless. The dollar figure provided is worthless, but some also come back with information on what makes it valuable (searches, CPC, etc.) as well as past related sales. They can be nice tools to use to get a set of data on one name in one place than hop around when you're just beginning (Keyword Planner, Namebio, etc., etc.), then take the reins from there when you know what you're doing.

 

[katherine]

Yeah I see what you mean.
The dollar figure provided is definitely worthless, no question about it.
As for the metrics, the problem is to make sense of the data that is presented to you. The newbies don't understand the metrics either.
Take for example search volume: is that the global search volume, or that for the US market ?
Then the data has no relevance to the Spanish market. Again, these are .es domains.
Besides, the domain has to be good on its own, the metrics alone do not dictate value.
ccTLDs are specialized markets and cannot be appraised like .com.

 

[dcristo]

Some of these names would have some value to some if you were to own:


Muscl.es
Accessori.es
Degre.es
Satellit.es


(Notice that they make an actual English word with the ccTLD and dropping a letter or two from the end, these are called domain hacks)

Disagree with this. It is still an English keyword on a ccTLD, which is terrible for SEO. The only time this is not true is when using vanity extensions like .me/.co that are treated like gTLD's. Well, actually since they're domain hacks it's not even seen as a keyword it's purely registered for branding purposes, but the examples above are worthless all the same.

 

[amplify]

Disagree with this. It is still an English keyword on a ccTLD, which is terrible for SEO. The only time this is not true is when using vanity extensions like .me/.co that are treated like gTLD's. Well, actually since they're domain hacks it's not even seen as a keyword it's purely registered for branding purposes, but the examples above are worthless all the same.

Not disagreeing with your opinion on the valuation of the domains provided, but there is a market for domain hacks and dedicated portfolios of just hacks. If Movi.es is able to sell for $$$$$, Accessori.es should be right up its alley (even though this isn't the domain in question being appraised). They may not come close to the other hacks, but with limited name space and branding being a deal, domain hacks are sought after (ma.tt, will.i.am and del.icio.us, then we get into dot com's branding shorter: bi.ng, youtu.be, instagr.am). I'm not saying go register a bunch of English words ending in .io, .es, .us, etc. to form an actual word or phrase, but they do exist and some do have value-what it is, I couldn't tell you. It's something that I threw out there for the OP to research and decide if that's what he wants to do, as he's new to domaining. To you and I, probably worthless, though they are registered (in the case of accessori.es, since 2005), so they do have value in someone's eyes.

You're right though, it's not good for SEO in the instance of the .es ccTLD. Here is a list of domains that are ccTLD's treated as gTLD's, which can make up words: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/1347922?hl=en