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Travel.info Sold Today For $116,000

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JuniperPark

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And no, the LLL .info value won't rise overnight because Travel.info sold for a good chunk of (inflated) dollars.


I'm afraid I have some very bad news for you, Acro.

It's only noon, and I've sold THREE LLL.INFO domains to 3 separate buyers today! I've never sold more than 1 a week over the past several years. These domains were not advertised here or on any other forum.

So, is it a 'coincidence' that this happened the day after the Travel.info sale ( aka "overnight")?
 

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I am expecting to see good things ahead to those .info owners... after holding on to them for 5, 6 years now.
 

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I'm afraid I have some very bad news for you, Acro.

It's only noon, and I've sold THREE LLL.INFO domains to 3 separate buyers today! I've never sold more than 1 a week over the past several years. These domains were not advertised here or on any other forum.

So, is it a 'coincidence' that this happened the day after the Travel.info sale ( aka "overnight")?

Why is it "bad news" for me, I don't understand. I am aware of the fact that you own thousands of .info names, so statistically the odds of selling .info domains are much higher.

The real question is, how many .info domains that didn't sell for $500 will now sell for $5k just because Travel.info - a top name - made a big sale?
 

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Why is it "bad news" for me, I don't understand. I am aware of the fact that you own thousands of .info names, so statistically the odds of selling .info domains are much higher.

The real question is, how many .info domains that didn't sell for $500 will now sell for $5k just because Travel.info - a top name - made a big sale?


No, the real question is: What are the random odds of suddenly selling 3 LLL.INFOs on a SPECIFIC single day? I'd say very very low. That suggests the Travel.info DID have an OVERNIGHT influence, just as it did with .mobi.

I haven't bought many more LLL.INFOS in the last couple of years, so it's not a matter of more possible sales.

You really can't deny a cause and effect relationship... and hold on to your credibility anyway :)
 

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Who would base their purchase of .info domains on the large overnight sale of Travel.info - or of any domain for that matter? "Domainers". The average end-user would not end up paying more - at least, not in such a short period of time - just because supposedly the TLD gained momentum overnight. Which means that, yes, the 3 x .info you sold was a coincidence. Domains are not to be confused with stocks ;) Which reminds me that AAPL is doing pretty well :D
 

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Theo, where would your post count be without that "green grin" LOL. It seems to be your TM?
 

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quick!! selling two premium LLL.info for just $20k, before they go up to $100K..
 

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travel related terms are some of the best for .info - city names, places, tourism, etc. everybody is always looking for info.rmation when they travel. Will have to check the next few weeks dnjournal sales reports to see if .info is on the upswing. I think any words and phrases that relate to needing information could rise for .info. It's a nice extension that I see more and more often in advertising and media.
 

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Good sale, but I would have expected more for this premium .info
 

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I still think too many people over-inflate the potential of .info or simply don't understand SEO - do a Google search on ANY half-decent keyword or phrase and you'll have to go a long long way to find any .info domains in the top 10 unless you go down to really small niche phrases.

But hey, the search engine landscape is changing all the time so who knows - that's what speculation is all about eh :D

I've developed dozens of .info domains now - many are on the first page of all major search engines. That is travel domains, famous people, finance, geo's and more. I understand seo perfectly and there is nothing wrong .info.
 

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I've developed dozens of .info domains now - many are on the first page of all major search engines. That is travel domains, famous people, finance, geo's and more. I understand seo perfectly and there is nothing wrong .info.

Well I have .info's on the first page of search engines too but they are hardly high-revenue generating terms.

If you Google "travel" itself for example, there's not one .info domain in the Top 100. Nor even in the Top 500! In fact the first one is just shy of #775! Virtually every other extension can be seen above that inclusing .travel.

Of course they can rank, but my opinion is they can't really compete commercially in the SE's without big investment. Anyway, $100k is a hell of a risk for an end-user, even for travel.info IMO.
 

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If you Google "travel" itself for example, there's not one .info domain in the Top 100. Nor even in the Top 500! In fact the first one is just shy of #775! Virtually every other extension can be seen above that inclusing .travel.

Point taken, but there are some heavy commercial-SEO dollars in the .com direction for travel, partly a legacy effect of .coms dominance and partly a continued marketing effort. If you look at the SERPs for "Germany" and "Spain" you'll see their .infos as #3 -- those are official sites, but it does suggest the extension isn't prohibitive per se.
 

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Point taken, but there are some heavy commercial-SEO dollars in the .com direction for travel, partly a legacy effect of .coms dominance and partly a continued marketing effort. If you look at the SERPs for "Germany" and "Spain" you'll see their .infos as #3 -- those are official sites, but it does suggest the extension isn't prohibitive per se.

Definately not prohibitive, but there has to be a question mark over how Google treats .info, either now or in the future. It was released as an "information" extension as opposed to the various "commercial" extensions which may impact it's ability to compete with commercial domains.

All hypothetical obviously but Google is getting more intelligent by the day so there is logic in it distinguishing between the two, which would conceivably limit revenue potential on .infos, hence why I consider such a large outlay as a risk. Who knows, it may pay off.
 

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Several Google reps including Matt Cutts have stated that Google does not weight gTLDs differently in their ranking algorithm. There have been many rumours that they may but there is no evidence to suggest that position has now changed.

Where there are good info sites they rank just as well as other gTLD extensions.

Some travel examples

Countries
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=austria&meta= (1)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=spain&meta= (1)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=germany&meta=(4)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=peru&meta= (3)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=south+africa&meta= (5)

Areas, counties,cities,districts
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=cotswolds&meta= (2)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=shropshire&meta= (3)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=wien&meta= (1)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=vienna&meta= (6) (Wien.info)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=lower+manhattan&meta=

Travel system
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=mta&meta= (1)
 

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Simsi, there are several reasons why you don't see many .info ranking well.

For one, value is perception. With sales like travel.info it will surely give more confidence in the extension and more domainers will more then likely begin developing .info in their portfolio.

Another point is that .info is a newer extension, and you are competing with .com sites which have been around much longer! If you knew a bit about SEO, you would know Google has more trust with older sites, regardless of extension.
 

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Here's the top 20 published .info sales within the last 24 mo's (from DNSalePrice):

Domain TLD SalePrice SaleDate SaleThru
Travel info $116,000 Jul 07 Sedo
NewYork info $46,392 Sep 06 Moniker/DomainSystems
Credit info $36,000 Dec 06 Sedo
Casino info $35,127 Sep 06 Sedo
Christian info $35,000 Jun 07 PvtSale
Camping info $28,100 Mar 06 Sedo
CreditCard info $25,500 Mar 07 Private
Funds info $22,246 Dec 05 Sedo
Money info $22,000 Mar 07 Moniker/Traffic
Manhattan info $21,000 Jun 07 Moniker/Traffic
Best info $20,880 Jul 05 Sedo
CreditCard info $20,000 Jul 06 Sedo
Newspaper info $18,409 Apr 07 Sedo
Racing info $18,000 Sep 06 Sedo
Events info $17,858 Nov 06 Sedo Auction
Houston info $17,000 Jun 07 Moniker/Traffic
Nevada info $13,162 Oct 06 Sedo
SantaClaus info $12,307 Nov 05 Sedo
Booking info $11,500 Apr 07 Sedo Auction
Physician info $10,500 Mar 06 Sedo

Looks like a large step to me though no doubt it's a premium domain.
 

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Another point is that .info is a newer extension, and you are competing with .com sites which have been around much longer! If you knew a bit about SEO, you would know Google has more trust with older sites, regardless of extension.

Yup that thought hadn't escaped me but even .travel sites are ranking above .info and that's a newer extension and more targetted to the sector. Seems to me that weighting is taken into account by Google based on that observation.
 

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Google can't rank .com's better than .info's just based on the extension, that doesn't make sense and would be just plain domain racism :D

The only thing .info fans should be aware of is the general opinion that .info's are low quality, low prices domains (I recently bought a big bunch of them for $0.77 each at dotster :eek: you sure won't get a deal like that on any other extension) that are mostly for spammers with domains like buy-discount-viagra-in-las-vegas-casino-while-playing-strip-poker.info and not for real sites.
 

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Yup that thought hadn't escaped me but even .travel sites are ranking above .info and that's a newer extension and more targetted to the sector. Seems to me that weighting is taken into account by Google based on that observation.

Based on one small sample you draw that conclusion? I have never seen a .travel in the SERPs
 
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