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Someone wasnt kidding when they said you do nice PS work. It's fake right :)
 
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Damnation!!!!

Who, what, or where were you able to compile all of this info???

A lot of those look like some Reece had.

Perhaps someone should contact him and bring him into this. Best place I understand is at NP.

Reece has been aware of the situation, and he is looking into it.
 

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Someone wasnt kidding when they said you do nice PS work. It's fake right :)
Yes, and not mine. Found it on google a while back (not even sure what I was looking for...).

Yes, fake.

I have never used Photoshop. I have it, but never used it or learned it. I bought Adobe CS3 awhile back but have not had time to dive into it.

I use a short lived MS PhotoDraw. Came out in 2000 and lasted perhaps a year. So nice. No matter what I have purchased over the years and tried I always end up back there.
 

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I really feel that everyone here has done a good job bringing out information. Especially some of the work that TheLegendaryJP has done gratis. But, I am concerned that this thread is starting to border on slandering some members that are completely innocent and not involved with shady transactions at all. Perhaps the best thing to do for right now is for the mods to lock down this thread and remove it from public viewing. This is a very serious mater with a lot of money involved and I am afraid it is only going to be solved by bringing law enforcement into the picture – which could also take some time. If anyone has any more pertinent information maybe they should send it via email or PM to jayspot.
 

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I really feel that everyone here has done a good job bringing out information. Especially some of the work that TheLegendaryJP has done gratis. But, I am concerned that this thread is starting to border on slandering some members that are completely innocent and not involved with shady transactions at all. Perhaps the best thing to do for right now is for the mods to lock down this thread and remove it from public viewing. This is a very serious mater with a lot of money involved and I am afraid it is only going to be solved by bringing law enforcement into the picture – which could also take some time. If anyone has any more pertinent information maybe they should send it via email or PM to jayspot.

For the most part I agree and say anyone who has an issue with being mention simply ask a mod/admin to erase you name, give them the post number and ask. No desire to slander just putting pieces together and yes innocent people can look involved when not, apologies to you if you feel that way.
 

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My name is David Williams (aussiedomainer at both NP and here).

Fortunately my good friend Alex brought this thread to my attention early this morning my time and I have spent the last couple of hours reading the entire thread and getting up to date with the situation.

I have dealt with 9MM - the first time was a couple of months ago. During this period I have purchased many junky LLLL.com's registered at EuroDNS. I was hesitant at first due to the fact he currently had his account at NP banned and did not accept PayPal etc. In hindsight I should have been wiser and steered clear of this shady character. However due to the fact that he agreed to push half of the domains before payment I proceeded with the transactions.

Since then I have purchased quite a few LLLL.com's from him with no problems. However it is now quite obvious that he is a scam artist and I am extremely upset for the people who have lost out through him.

However I have never received any funds from him or for him. I have however made a paypal payment to a NP member for a domain 9MM purchased. This is the only way I can see people have presumed I am involved in some way. I purchased a domain from 9MM, he stated he owed for a domain he purchased with another member. I then paid the other member with PayPal as payment for 9MM and 9MM pushed the domain to me.

I also purchased ebay items for 9MM in exchange for domains as he did not have a paypal account and wanted certain ebay items. Following is the address he used to have the ebay items posted to:

Patrick Norman
171 Pine Apt 3
Sudbury ON P3C1X2
Canada

It appears this is a new address as I have not seen it anywhere while looking through this entire thread. It may be more useful as he obviously has access to it as he has received posted items through it.

I have also made one wire transfer using the following account details:

xxxx

The email address I have used for communication with Patrick (if that is his real name) is [email protected]

I currently owe $400 to him for some outstanding domains I purchased. The payment is currently in escrow.com. However now that I have learned of this thread I have rang escrow and asked them to cancel the transaction. As long as this happens I will be happy to provide the remainder of the $400 after fees to the member/s that has lost the most from 9MM. However I will first confirm that my domains that have been purchased are all fine and that I have not lost out. However I think they are as they are all from johnnywj originally which I am advised was a legitimate transaction. I will try contacting him to confirm this. I know this is only a very small amount in the scheme of what has happened but feel it is right due to the fact that I have not lost out financially in all of this.

I appreciate everyone's willingness to get to the bottom of this situation. However I think the time has come to report and leave it to the authorities as it seems like a lot of conclusions are being jumped to and I do not appreciate having my name dragged through the mud. I think it would be best handled by those that can get all the details and put every piece together.

Once again, thanx Alex Simon for bringing this thread to my attention :)

I wish everyone the best in bringing this scum bag down and am happy to reply to any questions anyone may have. Please reply or PM me.
 
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You should save that info for Karen Nichxxxxxn but take it from the post. For all we know she could be a sucker of his and her account info you posted can be used in lucrative ways by the thousands of people looking at this thread over a few days.
With the info above, I can get other info. with the "other info" I would be just about able to steal her identity. Very close.
 

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David, knew you were not involved, your name is good. Just a warning he used your info with another domainer. You have added VERY valued info like his real address Patrick Norman
171 Pine Apt 3
Sudbury ON P3C1X2
Canada, he wouldnt get items sent to a fake addy too would he ? Also that bank info for Karen matches other deals so it is someone close to him. Great info.
 

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You should scratch Karen's info out Johnn and save it for the authorities.

The address is a home on the outskirts of Sudbury in what looks like a decent area. Could be his grandmother, girlfriend, or just some trusting girl. Alot can be done with that info. And not everyone looking at this thread is out for the better interest of the community. Damn good info though.. especially the delivery address... Thanks for the input AussieDomainer.

Good to scratch it out before google crawls and caches the post.
 

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You should scratch Karen's info out Johnn and save it for the authorities.

The address is a home on the outskirts of Sudbury in what looks like a decent area. Could be his grandmother, girlfriend, or just some trusting girl. Alot can be done with that info. And not everyone looking at this thread is out for the better interest of the community. Damn good info though.. especially the delivery address... Thanks for the input AussieDomainer.

Good to scratch it out before google crawls and caches the post.

9MM really used this Karen alot. I have 5 PM's where the member said they paid that bank info and name. She is close to him no doubt. She funneled thousands to him. Funny no one cares about what things look like at the bank. Do they not realize account activity can be and is sometimes monitored.
 

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As far as I can tell you guys about Reece. I've bought a lot of domains from 9MM, and supposely that lot came from Reece.

What I was told is the 9MM sold BQB.com to Reece for something like 8k, not too sure. And reece paid him 7.5k and paid the rest in bunch of CCC.net and LLL.in.

And part of that lot he sold to me.
 

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I want to give everybody an update on my end

fbi/authorities - Got a hold of the toronto police's fraud unit and supply them with all relevalent info. The operator have directly related the case to an investigator. Still waiting to hear back from the fbi.

$5k from ehsan mapour - still haven't received it yet. just talked to him earlier and he said he will return it tomorrow.
 

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9MM really used this Karen alot. I have 5 PM's where the member said they paid that bank info and name. She is close to him no doubt. She funneled thousands to him. Funny no one cares about what things look like at the bank. Do they not realize account activity can be and is sometimes monitored.

Good point. But I think the banks only report 10k+ for accounts outside of business. I believe it would be single amounts too, not accumilated.

I Might not be accurate, just second hand info.

I want to give everybody an update on my end

fbi/authorities - Got a hold of the toronto police's fraud unit and supply them with all relevalent info. The operator have directly related the case to an investigator. Still waiting to hear back from the fbi.

$5k from ehsan mapour - still haven't received it yet. just talked to him earlier and he said he will return it tomorrow.

RCMP is who you should call. Sudbury is 400km from GTA. RCMP have a great system too, hopefully they arent backlogged.
 

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I was contacted by alecp.com . Alec was mention earlier on as a possible connection to 9MM . He has asked me to post the following in his defence. He has every right to defend himself so here it is. As you will notice it was a matter of wrong whois ( not updating ) that gave the appearence something was arry, he assures me it is just a mistake with whois.

Hello.

I stumbled across the following thread:

http://www.dnforum.com/post465-post-1401685.html

I am indeed a domainer, and I am indeed 16 years old, however, I am not at all affiliated with Patrick Norman or 9MM.

I have, however, sold and traded domain names to Patrick.

I believe I initially bought VDYZ.com and UWKZ.com from him while he was a member of NamePros, and I later made the following deal with him on DigitalPoint:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=652767

In this, I traded several of my 4 letter .com domains and 3 letter .in domains (plus a miscellany of other domains) to him in return for a ccc.com: j8l.com

There are a few other domains I traded to him for the ccc.com that are not listed, such as ifpy.com, yhhi.com, frikkle.com, and pastetext.com (Those are the first few that come to mind; I can check if there are others.)

It appears that he has not bothered to update the WHOIS information since the trades; I have not really bothered to check, nor have I been in contact with him to tell him to update the WHOIS information. What the new owner of any domain does is not really my business nor my responsibility.

The above paragraph is why it looked like Alec owned names that belonged to 9MM

Best Regards,
Alec
 

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I would like to clear the air on a couple of things with the DNF community.

Although the investigation into the Stolen Domains continues, I apologize if I have inadvertently named anyone who was innocent in this issue. I make it a point to verify my source to ensure the integrity of my strict journalistic standards.

There are alot of names being tossed about in this thread, some of which were merely involved in the purchase of said domains. Other names have directly been linked to the flow of funds used in the sale of the domains. Still others have been mentioned for fact finding purposes.

I know that there are several of us, out here, who are still conducting research on 9MM and his various domains and email addresses. There will be more information to follow in coming days as we sort out fact from fiction. The best thing we can do now is just provide as much factual detail as possible - including links - to document the paper trail he's left behind.

Although I don't really know any of you, other than from your posts, I want to express my appreciation to the DNForum community for coming together and exposing the dirty deeds of 9MM. He's definately feeling the heat at this point - as well he should. Hopefully others involved are starting to feel a bit on their end too.

We all know that 9MM has completed some shady deals and has lied to the forum about his actions, but the more I research his other email addresses, the more dirt I find on this kid involving scamming others, setting up bunk PayPal accounts, ficticious addresses, etc. This kid needs a major reality check!

Keep up the great work and remember 9MM - you can run, but you cannot hide! Cagney and Lacy will find you!!!

PS - I'm at the corner of O'Farrell and Mason Street in San Francisco right now, and there is a guy playing the theme from the Godfather on his saxophone. How appropriate is that? Love it!!!
 
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