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Was .eu as over-hyped as .mobi?

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whitebark

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Now that a few more .mobi domains sold for decent prices in yesterdays auction we are sure to see another 1000 threads of .mobi hype. It's getting rather painful and well annoying. DNForum is at least still readable, but some other forums are getting to be 50% posts about that darn extension. Worse still it seems to be the same 40 or so people consistently and constantly hyping that extension. Enthusiasm is great and all, but there comes a point where the self-serving nature becomes all too evident.

I missed the .eu hoopla and by the sounds of it, it was pretty much the same.

Gripping? Yeah I guess, but it's nice to come to a forum where you can read intelligent threads about domains and the Internet that are NOT about .mobi and how it is the harbinger of the mobile Internet.

I'll probably get flamed hard for this but I think the lack of hype on DNF has much to do with the age of the posters, the high skill-set as domainers that DNF boasts and a certain decorum that resides here.

DNF - an oasis in a sea of hype.
 

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Now that a few more .mobi domains sold for decent prices in yesterdays auction we are sure to see another 1000 threads of .mobi hype. It's getting rather painful and well annoying. DNForum is at least still readable, but some other forums are getting to be 50% posts about that darn extension. Worse still it seems to be the same 40 or so people consistently and constantly hyping that extension. Enthusiasm is great and all, but there comes a point where the self-serving nature becomes all too evident.

I missed the .eu hoopla and by the sounds of it, it was pretty much the same.

Gripping? Yeah I guess, but it's nice to come to a forum where you can read intelligent threads about domains and the Internet that are NOT about .mobi and how it is the harbinger of the mobile Internet.

I'll probably get flamed hard for this but I think the lack of hype on DNF has much to do with the age of the posters, the high skill-set as domainers that DNF boasts and a certain decorum that resides here.

DNF - an oasis in a sea of hype.
Point taken and understood. Unfortunately, I did not miss the .eu hype.

.EU was so massively overhyped that is was so poorly managed from the onset. Even EUrid will reluctantly and silently admit this as witnessed by the tens of thousands of domain names "repossessed" purchased by front companies in the UK to grab the market.

In addition, 12 front companies in the US set up fraudulent registrars that had no connections to a european entity and illegally regged more than 300,000 .eu domains, again with the intent on cornering the LLL.eu, NNN.eu, and many generic terms.

For me, out of 276 pre-regged during the sunrise phase, an associate in the UK and I only got 6. This was in part due to the piss poor EUrid association but also the lack of interface between GoDaddy and the EUrid database that the idiots at GoDaddy insisted did not exist during the sunrise phase and nearly everything entered in a GoDaddy search came up as available when the domain had in fact been awarded in as early as December 2005.

So, yes, the .eu craze was definitely over hyped but with all the fraud and careless handling that was part of it, it has still not managed to recover from the initial blast and here it is a year later.

So how many .eu websites are out there?

I am a realist. Is the .mobi overhyped? Yes, and no.

Yes, by many accounts on these forums. I did not get into the .mobi early. The reason? Burned bad on the .eu.

But here is the key. Mobi is not only an extension, it is a format. It is and will become a way of life and it will and already is becoming a way to connect on portable devices. There are an estimated 3 billion cell phones in use in the world right now. More than 3 times the number of PC's and laptops in existence.

It is foolish not to invest in some good quality .mobi terms and words. It is simply having a diversified portfolio that is crucial just as a stock broker would tell you. As the saying goes, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

I would hardly think, and it has been proven already, that all the mobi-ites on this forum are just .mobi whores. They have diversified portfolios. Not just .mobi.

But like them, I see nothing but positive aspects and a positive future in the .mobi extension simply because the major telecommunications has embraced it as well as many Fortune500 and international companies.

I have over 3000 domain names. About 150 .mobi. About 150 .eu, since the sunrise fiasco. I would gladly give away all my .eu for one good mobi, or any extension for that matter.

Here is a simple test that you can easily conduct to answer your own question.

Type in your browser search bar www.bmw.eu.

Now look at the URL.

Then type in your browser search bar www.bmw.mobi.

Now look at the URL.

Have a good evening.
 

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If you get flamed hard, don't worry, I'll get flamed right along with you because I agree 100% with you.

I swear, I truly think some of these people are getting 'paid' to hype up .mobi.

And this is their usual response "You're just upset you didn't get in on the landrush"

and my thoughts usually are:

"No, you're just some newbie who just found out about the internet in 2005 and missed the .com days, so you think your 17 character .mobi domain is 'premium" :yup:
 

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If you get flamed hard, don't worry, I'll get flamed right along with you because I agree 100% with you.

I swear, I truly think some of these people are getting 'paid' to hype up .mobi.

And this is their usual response "You're just upset you didn't get in on the landrush"

and my thoughts usually are:

"No, you're just some newbie who just found out about the internet in 2005 and missed the .com days, so you think your 17 character .mobi domain is 'premium" :yup:
Again, point well taken.

I am not a newbie, I am a former advertising exec, I study markets and trends and technology, I am now in the medical profession, I have been involved with domaining for nearly 15 years, although I made many mistakes.

Did I get in the landrush? No for reasons posted in my previous post.

Did I still manage to get good .mobi names? Beyond a doubt. For my market, my audience...they are fantastic. Strong generic one word dictionary words.

Hopefully no one will flame anybody. Then it becomes too much like recess and the playground atmosphere "my dad can beat up your dad any day of the week"

So, from a .eu holder I can criticize my own portfolio and call them all dead (don't you think I will get flamed for that?) :deadhorse:

And, from a .mobi holder, I can claim them as being very positive and I just need to breathe some life into them, develop and market them.

I imagine I will get some heat for that.

But, seeing that I am not your typical domainer as you described, I can take the heat and even blast the hell out of my own domain portfolio.

I really don't see how pairing up and taking sides and drawing lines in the sand and daring the other party to cross over into your territory is constructive and worthwhile.

Let's just say I am neutral...I have some of every thing. I love you all :angel:, I hate every one of you :boxing:...that is a rather neutral comment.

Now, let the flaming begin! :flame:
 

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Point taken and understood. Unfortunately, I did not miss the .eu hype.

.EU was so massively overhyped that is was so poorly managed from the onset. Even EUrid will reluctantly and silently admit this as witnessed by the tens of thousands of domain names "repossessed" purchased by front companies in the UK to grab the market.

In addition, 12 front companies in the US set up fraudulent registrars that had no connections to a european entity and illegally regged more than 300,000 .eu domains, again with the intent on cornering the LLL.eu, NNN.eu, and many generic terms.

For me, out of 276 pre-regged during the sunrise phase, an associate in the UK and I only got 6. This was in part due to the piss poor EUrid association but also the lack of interface between GoDaddy and the EUrid database that the idiots at GoDaddy insisted did not exist during the sunrise phase and nearly everything entered in a GoDaddy search came up as available when the domain had infact been awarded in as early as December 2005.

So, yes, the .eu craze was definitely over hyped but with all the fraud and careless handling that was part of it, it has still not managed to recover from the initial blast and here it is a year later.

So how many .eu websites are out there?

I am a realist. Is the .mobi overhyped? Yes, and no.

Yes, but many accounts on these forums. I did not get into the .mobi early. The reason? Burned bad on the .eu.

But here is the key. Mobi is not only an extension, it is a format. It is and will become a way of life and it will and already is becoming a way to connect on portable devices. There are an estimated 3 billion cell phones in use in the world right now. More than 3 times the number of PC's and laptops in existence.

It is foolish not to invest in some good quality .mobi terms and words. It is simply having a diversified portfolio that is crucial just as a stock broker would tell you. As the saying goes, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

I would hardly think, and it has been proven already, that all the mobi-ites on this forum are just .mobi whores. They have diversified portfolios. Not just .mobi.

But like them, I see nothing but positive aspects and a positive future in the .mobi extension simply because the major telecommunications has embraced it as well as many Fortune500 and international companies.

I have over 3000 domain names. About 150 .mobi. About 150 .eu, since the sunrise fiasco. I would gladly give away all my .eu for one good mobi, or any extension for that matter.

Here is a simple test that you can easily conduct to answer your own question.

Type in your browser search bar www.bmw.eu.

Now look at the URL.

Then type in your browser search bar www.bmw.mobi.

Now look at the URL.

Have a good evening.


Good said and I couldn't have put it better. Also, .eu is limited to mostly Europe, but mobi can be related to any mobile device in the world.
 

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dont own any mobis....not sure what it is ..
 

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common assumption #342 : people that registered mobi's and that are new on the DOMAIN FORUMS are brand new to the internet.

same kinda crap was said back in the 90's WHEREVER you went... you could be simply chatting on IRC and be called a n00b for being new around there..

sure makes the other person feel like they got seniority... but doesnt really mean a whole lot when the internet, as we know it, is about 15 years old.
 

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Now that a few more .mobi domains sold for decent prices in yesterdays auction we are sure to see another 1000 threads of .mobi hype. It's getting rather painful and well annoying. DNForum is at least still readable, but some other forums are getting to be 50% posts about that darn extension. Worse still it seems to be the same 40 or so people consistently and constantly hyping that extension. Enthusiasm is great and all, but there comes a point where the self-serving nature becomes all too evident.

I missed the .eu hoopla and by the sounds of it, it was pretty much the same.

Gripping? Yeah I guess, but it's nice to come to a forum where you can read intelligent threads about domains and the Internet that are NOT about .mobi and how it is the harbinger of the mobile Internet.

I'll probably get flamed hard for this but I think the lack of hype on DNF has much to do with the age of the posters, the high skill-set as domainers that DNF boasts and a certain decorum that resides here.

DNF - an oasis in a sea of hype.



Seems a bit daft to start a thread about .mobi if you're looking for a .mobi free zone.
 

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Seems a bit daft to start a thread about .mobi if you're looking for a .mobi free zone.

exactly! LOL
also, there is a designated .mobi section on all forums, & you don't have to visit them. why would you if not interested?
same reason i never visit the .us or.ca sections etc
because they don't interest me in the slightest. i'm sure people are getting on with their business in those areas. good luck to them :cool:
 

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The majority of users to forums drop in and check all the days threads at once - as I do. It is annoying to see thread after thread of the same tripe and having to wade through it. Most of it is not much more than spam or what is becoming more apparent - blatant self-promotion. It's not about creating a .mobi free zone.

I love .ca and .info for making websites. I don't post a thread for each little occurrence about these extensions. .ca passed 800,000 registrations last week - maybe I should have done a thread for that. ebook and onlinecasino.ca dropped yesterday - there is another new thread. Oh I read an article that said people recognize .info - better start yet another thread. That's the point I'm making.

I say this as someone who has 11 .mobi domains. But I and others could care less about the self-promotion, self-aggrandizing, over-hype and over-abundance of .mobi threads that clutter a useful place.

There is a very long .ca thread on these boards that could serve as an example to the .mobi crowd. That is keep it on one thread - it is fine to discuss multiple subjects within the same thread - that's what the search function is for.
 

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The majority of users to forums drop in and check all the days threads at once - as I do. It is annoying to see thread after thread of the same tripe and having to wade through it. Most of it is not much more than spam or what is becoming more apparent - blatant self-promotion. It's not about creating a .mobi free zone.

I love .ca and .info for making websites. I don't post a thread for each little occurrence about these extensions. .ca passed 800,000 registrations last week - maybe I should have done a thread for that. ebook and onlinecasino.ca dropped yesterday - there is another new thread. Oh I read an article that said people recognize .info - better start yet another thread. That's the point I'm making.

I say this as someone who has 11 .mobi domains. But I and others could care less about the self-promotion, self-aggrandizing, over-hype and over-abundance of .mobi threads that clutter a useful place.

There is a very long .ca thread on these boards that could serve as an example to the .mobi crowd. That is keep it on one thread - it is fine to discuss multiple subjects within the same thread - that's what the search function is for.


its called a landrush for a reason danielson. get over it..
 

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whitebark, I agree with you on much of what you have said and you have said it very well. Sales content, investment enthusiasm and just plain optimism are all valuable here but some of the hype that's been going around is just way overdone. I've said this a few times in the past but the noise just seems to drown it out.

For those of you here that are so fond of hyping, don't think it's so hard too see through. People hype when they can't sell somthing on it's own merits.
If your domain is so great don't worry you'll get offers without even asking for them. Too much hype just serves to denigrate this forum and has most likely chased some of the valuable oldschoolers away.
 

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You have to recognize one HUGE difference between EU and Mobi.

EU was for now, Mobi is for the future. EU was heavily hyped and was all the talk about one year ago. But it went away quickly. Mobi cannot be proven/disproven for several years. The hype/speculation with Mobi will go on much longer than with EU. This is good for Mobi owners, bad for domain forums. I actually enjoy the Mobi arguements though, so I don't really wish it to go away. But I'm kind of combative.
 

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I'm a firm believer that wireless Internet is the future. In Japan, mobile Internet usage already exceeds desktop for instance (just saw the stat on that this week). However, I put some thought into whether to buy any mobi, and in the end decided not to. Reason is that I think what matters for a mobile site is domain length above all else. Mobile is an interface where every extra keystroke is like typing in an extra word in a regular browser. So given that's the case, why is mobi one of the LONGEST extensions? Plus .mob would have been way cooler too. Makes no sense - to me at least. I like .ca for mobile (for one thing it has one fewer character than a .com) and I'm betting that all my two character names will be as valuable for wireless as .mobi will. I've been wrong before, but I'd say go short instead of mobi.
 

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Hyped or not hyped... this is a business. .eu is a business and .mobi is a business. Every extension is a business and every new extension will get hyped. I made my money in .eu (though I did not and do not believe in it). I made and am continuing to make money on .mobi (though I don't believe in it also). Bull market or bear market, if you're able to cash in- who cares if it's hyped or not. For every new extension I develope a business model that allows me to cash in whether the extension have potential of succeeding and that's what good domaining is all about. I baught enough premiums to sell to make my profit and kept enough just in case .mobi takes off. I don't think .mobi will take off but I kept 3 premiums that are not for sell just in case I'm wrong. I love the hyping and I love the arguments :) its always good for business.
 
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