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Who in their right mind would let an 8 year old fire an uzi!?!?

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Dale Hubbard

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Complete and utter undefensible lunacy. Only in the US.
 

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Accidents do happen but I think the point elivate was trying to make is that semi automatics like uzi's have no real point being the hands of citizens. People don't use them for hunting and its very unpractical to use for home defence. Whats its use?

That is certainly one of the points I was trying to make, the other Acro made very well:

Giving an uzi to an 8-year old to fire on targets "for fun" should be treated the same as giving alcohol to a minor: punishment of the adult that offered it.

And certainly emotion plays a role when you read a story like this, irresponsible "adults" who should know better cause an 8 year old child to die... for what? the enjoyment of firing a weapon that was designed for only one reason - to KILL people...
 

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Accidents do happen but I think the point elivate was trying to make is that semi automatics like uzi's have no real point being the hands of citizens. People don't use them for hunting and its very unpractical to use for home defence. Whats its use?
It's just like most hobbies out there -- there may not be a practical use for something, but if someone enjoys doing it, then why not do it (as long as you're not breaking the law or stepping over other's rights). Hell, what's practical about flying model aircrafts... Nothing... but it's fun and enjoyable, so people do it.

Some people would say that me having over 700hp in the car I drive to work is impractical, but does that mean I shouldn't have it? :?: I take it to the track on the weekends and have a blast with it and I'd hate for someone to make a law that didn't allow me to enjoy all that power.

With both shooting guns and racing cars, there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.... and with both, doing it the wrong way can become very deadly.
 

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It's just like most hobbies out there -- there may not be a practical use for something, but if someone enjoys doing it, then why not do it (as long as you're not breaking the law or stepping over other's rights). Hell, what's practical about flying model aircrafts... Nothing... but it's fun and enjoyable, so people do it.

Some people would say that me having over 700hp in the car I drive to work is impractical, but does that mean I shouldn't have it? :?: I take it to the track on the weekends and have a blast with it and I'd hate for someone to make a law that didn't allow me to enjoy all that power.

With both shooting guns and racing cars, there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.... and with both, doing it the wrong way can become very deadly.

Good point, and I am sure you would admit that the "average" driver, especially one who is around 16 or so would have a very difficult time keeping your car on the road... So could you even imagine letting someone as young as 8 try to take it for a spin?
 

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Even if the kid had fired weapons before, how were the adults not concerned about recoil, idiots! If it turns out this kid had never fired a gun in his life, or had absolutely zero experience around guns, then someone needs to be taken out back to the chopping block.
 

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That whole first paragraph is disturbing.

-=DCG=-
 

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Good point, and I am sure you would admit that the "average" driver, especially one who is around 16 or so would have a very difficult time keeping your car on the road... So could you even imagine letting someone as young as 8 try to take it for a spin?
Hell, I didn't even trust myself fully the first time I took it down the track with that much power. :lol: But that is why I do it at the track, so that if I screw up, the only person I hurt is myself... and the concrete wall. ;)

But you are exactly right and it seems we agree (as do most everyone in this thread).

It all goes back to the root problem on this issue; someone of that age and inexperience should've never been allowed to operate something with that much potential for danger.
 

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I can just see the "certified instructor", standing there in his stained overalls, cigarette dangling from his lower lip, a warm Budweiser in his hand.

"When y’alls finished with that there Uzi, I got an M230 Chain Gun mounted to the back of my pickup, we can take your boy out to shoot a few squirrels."
 

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In this case the child holding the gun was harmed, but he could have killed or injured many others. Some of the blame has to go to the Gov't not making laws to prevent this type of thing. You can't expect everyone to have common sense in these situations.
 

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Some of the blame has to go to the Gov't not making laws to prevent this type of thing. You can't expect everyone to have common sense in these situations.

Nonsense, Why is it everytime a tragedy happens, people like you point the finger to Government not doing enough?. We want Government OUT of our lives, not IN our lives.. I trust the shooting ranges I used to go to, Most of them will read this story and toughen their own rules for Children, They know how to do it better than Government pinheads do.

As for cars, We have drivers on the road that passed a Government test, but yet we have over 40,000 vehicle deaths nationwide per year... Is more and stricter laws the answer?

:no:
 

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Nonsense, Why is it everytime a tragedy happens, people like you point the finger to Government not doing enough?. We want Government OUT of our lives, not IN our lives.. I trust the shooting ranges I used to go to, Most of them will read this story and toughen their own rules for Children, They know how to do it better than Government pinheads do.

As for cars, We have drivers on the road that passed a Government test, but yet we have over 40,000 vehicle deaths nationwide per year... Is more and stricter laws the answer?

:no:

"People like you" ?????????

Don't even attempt to include me in your generalizations.

We need laws so people like YOU don't let their kids shoot an automatic rifle into a crowd of people.

This has nothing to do with vehicle deaths unless you are talking about 8 year olds driving legally.
 

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Complete and utter undefensible lunacy. Only in the US.

agreed

You pick one incident as a way of saying we should not have the "right to bear arms". Give me a f**king break....blame the parents not the second amendment.

'bowling for columbine' i think puts things in better context. i advise watching it
it's the mentality of the people bearing them and their inherent responsibility , or lack of.
Canada has very high arms figures but with nowhere near the problems, homicides, accidents etc
different people and culture to put it bluntly

until you wake up and radically change it will keep happening. or you can keep riding into the abyss, up to you
 
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In this case the child holding the gun was harmed, but he could have killed or injured many others. Some of the blame has to go to the Gov't not making laws to prevent this type of thing. You can't expect everyone to have common sense in these situations.

We already have enough laws on the books. Its a tragedy but I don't want to see anymore of my rights taken away in the name of safeguarding everyone. The gov. f**ks up everything it gets involved in that's why we should all demand limited Government.
 

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We already have enough laws on the books. Its a tragedy but I don't want to see anymore of my rights taken away in the name of safeguarding everyone. The gov. f**ks up everything it gets involved in that's why we should all demand limited Government.

Are you against a law restricting children from shooting automatic rifles??? This is similar to a kid legally driving a truck.
 

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You pick one incident as a way of saying we should not have the "right to bear arms". Give me a f**king break....blame the parents not the second amendment.
The 2nd amendment is a few hundred years old back when muzzle loaders took 20 minutes to reload. :approve:

I have a co-worker that has a .50 cal Barrett sniper rifle that he uses for "home defense". :lol:
 

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The 2nd amendment is a few hundred years old back when muzzle loaders took 20 minutes to reload. :approve:

OK with your thinking lets get rid of all those original amendments to Constitution. I mean they were all written a few hundred years ago.:rolleyes:

I have a co-worker that has a .50 cal Barrett sniper rifle that he uses for "home defense". :lol:

That's f**king awesome man. Of course if were me I'd have a Barrett REC7. Its more practical.

Are you against a law restricting children from shooting automatic rifles??? This is similar to a kid legally driving a truck.

We already have enough laws. Its time to put the blame where it rightly belongs, the parents. Parents should be held responsible for actions of their children. Somewhere along the line parental responsibility went out the window in this country.
 
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