Why does PPC income seems to be down industry-wide?

[denny007]

If that's the case, it's an example of a monopoly ante portas!

Why ?

A good read about Yahoo: http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/28/magazines/fortune/yahoo.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2006102810

I would like it - Microsoft buying Yahoo...

 

[mistermouse63]

there's a fifth way out - just think of ireit. instead parking their traffic domains they can directly sell their traffic to advertisers (i dont know if they are doing this, but im sure they could). if you can't earn money with ppc, you can always create something to sell traffic more efficiently. however, such major changes won't take place any time soon... at least not until most of traffic domains are in hands of a very limited group of people

 

[NZPoint]

I know this might sounds crazy, but why cant domainers have strike!!

just imagin a week of domainers strike and not sending traffic to any parked pages, removing any kind of adsense and YPN what it does to all advertisers

I am sure it will be a killer and perhaps changes the way we are getting paid for displaying adsense and YPN.

lets everyone put hands together, make a date and show these big guys who is in control.

I personally dont mind loosing so much money over certain time if I think the results would be substantial.

I would suggest lets make a date and every domainer stop sending traffic to either parked pages and removing any ads on their site. If we dont do this we will always be their slaves.

It look like we are forgetting something "WE ARE IN CONTROL" not them. without us they are nothing, zilch, zero.. I am just getting fed up with all the none sence excuses we hear from PPC case manager and so on. If the industry is down, if advertisers pay less money, how come they make more money!!! how come google shares going up instead of down.. none of these make sence. everyone getting greedier and we should put stop on this or we have to live with it for the rest of our domaining life.

 

[Duckinla]

If the industry is down, if advertisers pay less money, how come they make more money!!! how come google shares going up instead of down.. none of these make sence

You're missing the point. Denny nailed it. Google is making more money because volume is up, not because they are getting paid more per click.

Walmarts business plan: Every year, decrease gross margin but increase net margin. It means they will make less money on each item they sell, but make more money over all. How can they do this? Build more stores. Sell more product. Increase volume.

There are just more publishers now providing Google with more clicks to sell. They can be selling them at a lower price than before and still make more money than ever before. They just have to sell more clicks. And that's not a problem because more of us are out here providing clicks to them.

 

[NZPoint]

I understand what your saying and I got the point. but do you hear yourself!!!
they are no matter what making more money, but domainers, where do we stand? making less.

I still think its a good idea for domainers to go on strike, this way it shake the industry and it will show them without us they are nothing.

I just thought of idea of creating domainers union or something like that. every industry has some kind of union, why not domainers have one?

 

[Theo]

http://www.dnoa.org

 

[David G]

http://www.dnoa.org

They do not seem to be too active for a long time.

Try joining it and see what happens after you go thru the trouble of completing the application for membership (which I did a few weeks ago)!

 

[NZPoint]

http://www.dnoa.org

I was thinking something like union in a way that PPC companies work.

 

[richrf]

Hi all,

I agree that organizing and achieving greater transparancy would increase revenue across the board. If such a forum/organization is formed, I would join. But before we "strike", I think it is required that we understand, as a group, what we are looking for. To begin with, I would like to know precisely, how much my site is generating in revenue each month and my share of the revenue. A broad request, such as this, would allow for greater group selling (domain real estate) power.

Rich

 

[NZPoint]

I just make it short and you guys use your imagination of what it will do.

This is how it should work, a place where you direct your traffic just like ppc so the board will decide for the traffic to pass it on to advertisers, parked pages or hold on traffic. if every domainer do the same just for a day or two, it will have a realy big, huge impact on industry. not sure how many domainers are out there or daily traffic they send over advertisers, but I am sure we are talking millions a day. doing this also has benefit of knowing real reading of your traffic rather than relying on what your PPC company tell you it is.

I just wish I knew a bit of programing and I would personaly code the damn thing and I am sure would attract lots of interests.

Imagin a place having control over internet traffic. Now you tell me who is the boss

 

[Duckinla]

I understand what your saying and I got the point. but do you hear yourself!!!
they are no matter what making more money, but domainers, where do we stand? making less.

No, domainers are not making less, they are making more. But it's getting spread out amongst more domainers, more websites and more clicks. So on a click basis or individual basis we might be making less. But the community is bigger than ever before.

It's just supply and demand. As they industry grows and the supply of clicks goes up, price per click will come down...unless more advertisers in a certain field are looking for more clicks and bidding them competitively. I don't like it any more than you do, but our frustrations alone cannot defeat the laws of economics.

 

[GT Web]

No, domainers are not making less, they are making more. But it's getting spread out amongst more domainers, more websites and more clicks. So on a click basis or individual basis we might be making less. But the community is bigger than ever before.

It's just supply and demand. As they industry grows and the supply of clicks goes up, price per click will come down...unless more advertisers in a certain field are looking for more clicks and bidding them competitively. I don't like it any more than you do, but our frustrations alone cannot defeat the laws of economics.

Very true...that is a great post

 

[typist]

Walmarts business plan: Every year, decrease gross margin but increase net margin. It means they will make less money on each item they sell, but make more money over all. How can they do this? Build more stores. Sell more product. Increase volume.

Build more mini-sites. Churn out more pages. Get them indexed. Increase click volume.

I'm trying...

 

[ClickEarn]

I don't see how this conclusion is right in any way. I also
pay for advertising and 2 areas I deal in that are not very
"High Profile" you will pay $1.50 - $4.00 to be in the top 10

I can't imagine how much high profile spots like mortgages
would be. I think I will check out my account at Google, I
will bet the top spots for loans is $15.00 - $25.00 PER CLICK

So where is this money going?... Not to the domainers who
are supplying the clicks. Someone is making all the dough!