Your investment in Mobi... Are you Up, Down or Even?

[Newton]

What your saying is; Because buyers failed to develop their .mobi's they have nobody to blame but themselves for the domain values dropping? Nice angle, but try selling that one to somebody else.

Fact is, a great number of mobi investors here were sold into a false belief that .mobi was going to take off, It was repeatedly compared to the dot com TLD, suggesting if you have a premium dot mobi, it was going to appreciate in value much like a dot com, It was a sales pitch, a pitch that lasted over a year on this Forum, where it was pushed like no other TLD before it.. The mobi crowd was beating that drum day after day, creating a thread every time a major brand adopted mobi into their advertising.

And one really has to question the motive behind all the hype that went on back then, They sure weren't doing it to reassure themselves it was a wise investment, No, I'd say "self interest" and "greed" were the primary motives for pushing it. .. The Mobi crowd figured if they could pump up mobi to the same playing level as dot com, (or close to it) it would create a DEMAND... A demand for many of those 100, 500 or 1000 Mobi's they registered, and by doing so their portfolio would increase in value and they'd be able to unload them faster, All at the expense of the gullible, the naive or the unsuspecting newbie.

For the buyers who bought into all the hype, you can blame them too, their ultimately responsible for their own actions and their old enough to know better right? But keep in mind that many of them join these forums to learn, Learn from other members who know more than they do and have a better understanding of what's going on... When they see exclusive veteran members aggressively suggesting dot Mobi is the next dot com, wouldn't you say that carries a lot of weight in their decision making?

On an ending note, I'm not one of those people who bought into all the hype, so it's no skin off my back, and no monkey on my back either, Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.

How many mobi domains have you purchased and also made money from? Would that be zero?
If I asked you to cross a busy intersection with your eyes shut in rush hour traffic, would you? No I think not and people make their own informed decisions rather than be lead down any garden path. If you told me the sky was blue, I would still look up to check and decide for myself lol How can you blame members who purchased mobi domains and then sold them on, that's just ridiculous.. this is business. People make their own informed decisions and yes you can earn money from mobi domains, it just needs some thought, so they are developed and garnering traffic. IF you sit around holding a ton of mobi domains in your portfolio which are doing nothing, build them!! Don't expect some rich benefactor to come along on the pretext that your mobi is "just awesome" as you paid a lot of money for it; that was then and this is now... rely on yourself, get off your arse and build, don't expect mtld to build your site for you! Your destiny is in your own hands.

It is very refreshing to find someone that cares so deeply and would take responsibility for all of the ills of the world, truly Do you need a hug?

How about I gift you losers.mobi to make a site, gratis Then others can learn from your sage wisdom on making money, or not in your case, with mobi?

Ok I have some sites to make and more money to make from mobi

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Couldn't have summed it up better Raider. Unfortunately people take an attack on a failed extension, if they bought into the hype, as an attack on them personally.

I bought into dot mobi and I am still buying. Nothing personal at all, this is business and they still earn me money When they don't, then I will drop them like a case of the clap and look back fondly with a smile on my face.

 

[Gerry]

OMG, it's the Mother Theresa of Domains

Please forgive us, you who are just and wise and transparent. Ye, all knowing and powerful, who has never duped your fellow man or mislead or misguided poor souls. We are so ashamed, humbled, and not worthy to be in the presence of thee, oh savior of domaindom. Please lead us not into temptation and protect us from all harmful and misguided liberal turds.

Yea, tho I walk thru the valley of TLD's, I shall fear no evil as thou art with me. I will lay down my money beside thee as thou teaches me to purchase, invest, and vote.

We art grateful for thy words of wisdom and bow down before thee, humbled in thy presence, oh Precious one. We give praise that thou has bestowed upon us this domain oriented thread. We count this, oh savior, as one of thy gratuitous domain oriented psalms from your book of knowledge. And let us not ever question thy purpose, cause, and presence again on this hallowed ground of forumdom.

Let all who read and hear thy words lift up their arms and open up their hearts to thee. Most of all, save our minds from the demonic presence of those that question thee, disgust thee, and disparage thee. For they are evil and possessed and not of right mind and spirit.

Blessed are we to have witnessed this miracle.

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Um, for those (including myself) who are *****ing about parking revenue and non tranparency of the domain empire, here's a secret...make sites.

When browsers are able to detect parked pages or pages that serve up ads and avoid them...
When people are tap an icon and do not enter a URL to get to a site they wish to visit...
When search engines stop ranking parked pages because of static content, poor content, or detection of ad laden pages...
When parking companies continue to pay out 15%-20% of ad revenue...

it might be high time to start building sites. Past time, actually.

Build sites, any sites, any extension. It does not matter. Ultimately it will rank higher than a parked page...

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Actually, I find it quite amazing that I can take a fresh domain, make a site, do it right, tag it and promote it right...

In less than two weeks, I have taken a broad term with 22,000,000 searches and my site now ranks 9th...(the .com ranks 3rd - its a parked page)
and in less than two weeks that same "exact" term phrase ranks 4th out of 1,500,000. Egad... mine is a .net.



And, oh my...a mobi site I made ranks number 1 over the .com (parked), .net (French), and org (parked). Shockingly, the .com, .net, and .org did not even appear in the top 100 on google.

 

[Raider]

How many mobi domains have you purchased and also made money from? Would that be zero?
If I asked you to cross a busy intersection with your eyes shut in rush hour traffic, would you? No I think not and people make their own informed decisions rather than be lead down any garden path. If you told me the sky was blue, I would still look up to check and decide for myself lol How can you blame members who purchased mobi domains and then sold them on, that's just ridiculous.. this is business. People make their own informed decisions and yes you can earn money from mobi domains, it just needs some thought, so they are developed and garnering traffic. IF you sit around holding a ton of mobi domains in your portfolio which are doing nothing, build them!! Don't expect some rich benefactor to come along on the pretext that your mobi is "just awesome" as you paid a lot of money for it; that was then and this is now... rely on yourself, get off your arse and build, don't expect mtld to build your site for you! Your destiny is in your own hands.

It is very refreshing to find someone that cares so deeply and would take responsibility for all of the ills of the world, truly Do you need a hug?

How about I gift you losers.mobi to make a site, gratis Then others can learn from your sage wisdom on making money, or not in your case, with mobi?

Ok I have some sites to make and more money to make from mobi

Nothing you posted here addresses the core issue I'm raising..... I'll post it again and maybe this time instead of posting a lot of smoke and mirrors, you can provide us with an answer;

"For the buyers who bought into all the hype, you can blame them too, their ultimately responsible for their own actions and their old enough to know better right? But keep in mind that many of them join these forums to learn, Learn from other members who know more than they do and have a better understanding of what's going on... When they see exclusive veteran members aggressively suggesting dot Mobi is the next dot com, wouldn't you say that carries a lot of weight in their decision making?


Like I say here, buyers do and SHOULD accept responsibility for their own actions, but so should veteran members who were pumping up this TLD with high expectations.

Using the excuse that buyers should be developing those domains is just a weak and pathetic way of not take any responsibility.

 

[Gerry]

I must admit, I was laughing myself silly and had a little taste of vomit in my mouth while elevating Precious to sainthood...what a hallowed individual. We should give thanks to her and her noble and charitable causes to save mankind from mobee fans and liberal turds.

 

[think]

I got in on the land rush and spent low $xx,xxx mostly on cards to buy my Mobis. Within 3 months I was in the black selling about 15% of my total collection. I did spend months planning my approach to the landrush and focused on keywords that related well to mobile search.

Made a huge mistake in deciding Mobi wouldn't dip as I had anticipated and went againt my own strategy and started buying at the top. Mobi crashed hard right along with my PPC revenue and all other struggling new TLDs like Biz , Info etc.

In the last year or so I've been buying Mobi at the bottom getting great bargains even for a marginal TLD considering the keywords. PC traffic domains suffering from the drop in PPC rev are taking precedence currently but Mobi dev plans are in the works.

Mostly I was fortunate to get exceptional keywords that pair well with mobile search. Everything is relevent to the quality of the keywords.

I still think mobi has it's place in the domain world and I'm not overly concerned by by the highs and lows in the market place. Basically market metrics will show in the months and years to come how relevent Mobi will or will not be.

Best of luck to all in 2011 with all your domain investments. Hopefully this year will show promise in many areas of the domain industry.....

 

[Newton]

Nothing you posted here addresses the core issue I'm raising..... I'll post it again and maybe this time instead of posting a lot of smoke and mirrors, you can provide us with an answer;

hahahahaha since when is the truth called "Smoke and Mirrors"?

"For the buyers who bought into all the hype, you can blame them too, their ultimately responsible for their own actions and their old enough to know better right? But keep in mind that many of them join these forums to learn, Learn from other members who know more than they do and have a better understanding of what's going on... When they see exclusive veteran members aggressively suggesting dot Mobi is the next dot com, wouldn't you say that carries a lot of weight in their decision making?

No, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Why didn't you do MORE to explain to these newbies what a mistake (in your personal view) they are making; you should have tried harder to protect the innocent, its all YOUR fault lol
While you are at it, why not just start a cult and have them all running around the fire, dropping some lsd and singing kumbaya lol

Like I say here, buyers do and SHOULD accept responsibility for their own actions, but so should veteran members who were pumping up this TLD with high expectations.

Using the excuse that buyers should be developing those domains is just a weak and pathetic way of not take any responsibility.

Wow is the lithium kicking in yet? You really have a hardon for some of the members here don't you lol
You want to punish me for developing my domains and telling others to do the same? What is a suitable sentence in that head of yours? hanging, hung drawn and quartered, whipping? lol
Thank you for making me laugh out loudly

 

[Gerry]

hahahahaha since when is the truth called "Smoke and Mirrors"?

She recalls someone on the forum, perhaps it was Batman, Hope, MIR or whoever he was at the time, saying something about .mobi being the next .com.

See, shallowness has it limits. Out of 5 plus years of .mobi postings, she wants to call out the mobi investors on that one issue.

We both (and perhaps all of us) now this was a 100% bait thread and serves two fold: Take jabs and make a gratuitous domain related thread since she was so hammered and bruised on recent thread.

Yes, exercise your freedoms of speech and expression. We'll exercise our freedoms of laughing our asses off at the protector of all, the genuine Joan of Arc Domains. I swear, I have heard of some doozies...but the embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man sanctimonious bullshit takes the cake.

 

[owntag]

I sold several .mobi domains plus a bulk LLL deal at the very beginning and the total sales are close to $35k.
The sales that can be disclosed are Tube.mobi $10k, Sucks.mobi $3.5k
I also sold GoMobi.com to mTLD this year.

 

[Raider]

hahahahaha since when is the truth called "Smoke and Mirrors"?

Truth? I haven't seen any of that from you at all, just a lot of deflection and adolescent behavior on your part.. How old are you, 12?

Why didn't you do MORE to explain to these newbies what a mistake (in your personal view) they are making

Mistake? As in taking the words of rodents like DocCom, Vision and 9888 who were dispensing biased and misleading information about the future of Mobi, that mistake? For your information, I along with many others on this forum posted plenty of warnings.

Here's just one example in 2007;

Domainers are not stupid, they are hyping it to flip. Many of those already made a pile and insane profit within 3 mths of landrush. Some .mobi "evangelists" on DS even admitted it towards the end that they made their money and are not affected when the hype ended. I think it's the newbies that seldom post on this forum that carry the baby.

You want to punish me for developing my domains and telling others to do the same?

I never suggested such a thing.. You don't comprehend very well do you? I noticed that after it took a few posts to understand the number of domains you allowed to drop, I must say your not too bright. If you go back and READ, you'll find that I never criticized you or anybody else for developing their domains, My point has NOTHING to do with development, It's YOU who's using it to deflect from the argument, which is the aftermath of all the hype.

Sold about 50 or 60 of the 700 and let the remainder expire / drop

So you allowed 640 Mobi's to drop is that it? With crap like this I can clearly see why;

Predator try this one ..

medley.mobi

Picked up a few nice spanish, german and french ones

centrale.mobi (french for 'power station' also means 'center' / 'centre')
pero.mobi (spanish for 'but')
manana.mobi (spanish for 'tomorrow')
musicale.mobi (french for musical)
viel.mobi (german for 'much')
pape.mobi (french for 'pope')
sais.mobi ( french for 'know')
blanca.mobi (spanish for 'white')
banus.mobi (Very wealthy spanish marina/area in Marbella)
palacio.mobi (spanish for'palace')
ayudas.mobi (spanish for 'helps')

ound:

If you want to make them more resellable, just do what DocCom does and add "UN" in front of each one, like Unboxes.com... :lol: :lol2:

I sold several .mobi domains plus a bulk LLL deal at the very beginning and the total sales are close to $35k.
The sales that can be disclosed are Tube.mobi $10k, Sucks.mobi $3.5k
I also sold GoMobi.com to mTLD this year.

Congratulations, I'm glad you were able to make a substantial profit, the generics are quite good... May I ask if the buyers were resellers, end users or both?

Thanks

 

[Newton]

Truth? I haven't seen any of that from you at all, just a lot of deflection and adolescent behavior on your part.. How old are you, 12?

LOL Reading and comprehension was never your strong suit was it

As in taking the words of rodents like DocCom, Vision and 9888 who were dispensing biased and misleading information about the future of Mobi, that mistake? For your information, I along with many others on this forum posted plenty of warnings.

Here's just one example in 2007;

Domainers are not stupid, they are hyping it to flip. Many of those already made a pile and insane profit within 3 mths of landrush. Some .mobi "evangelists" on DS even admitted it towards the end that they made their money and are not affected when the hype ended. I think it's the newbies that seldom post on this forum that carry the baby.

You are calling people rodents now? That is not very nice is it lol Its still ALL your fault, you should have tried harder as the guilt is obviously killing you that no-one listened to your "sage advise" lol

I never suggested such a thing.. You don't comprehend very well do you? I noticed that after it took a few posts to understand the number of domains you allowed to drop, I must say your not too bright. If you go back and READ, you'll find that I never criticized you or anybody else for developing their domains, My point has NOTHING to do with development, It's YOU who's using it to deflect from the argument, which is the aftermath of all the hype.

There I was thinking its not rocket science, yet you couldn't understand, it must be the drugs kicking in for you.

So you allowed 640 Mobi's to drop is that it? With crap like this I can clearly see why;

Picked up a few nice spanish, german and french ones

centrale.mobi (french for 'power station' also means 'center' / 'centre')
pero.mobi (spanish for 'but')
manana.mobi (spanish for 'tomorrow')
musicale.mobi (french for musical)
viel.mobi (german for 'much')
pape.mobi (french for 'pope')
sais.mobi ( french for 'know')
blanca.mobi (spanish for 'white')
banus.mobi (Very wealthy spanish marina/area in Marbella)
palacio.mobi (spanish for'palace')
ayudas.mobi (spanish for 'helps')

If you want to make them more resellable, just do what DocCom does and add "UN" in front of each one, like Unboxes.com...

When was that from 2009 / 2008 ? I believe I made money on those too lol You are so full of piss and vinegar aren't you, did you not get a hug today? LOL I am constantly changing my portfolio, but there are some premium core names that remain and will do so.

 

[Gerry]

LOL Reading and comprehension was never your strong suit was it

deja vu...seems I have not been the only one to say that on numerous times.

See mate...this is the part of the Prayer to Mother Raider where I mentioned transparency.

This was a thread and a post to suck people in so she could admonish them in some manner. It was never a genuine interest. It did not matter what was posted. This is one of her annual gratuitous threads dealing with domaining.

Now, lets explore the difference between mobi and com and domainers.

What is the difference between the hype of L-L-L.com on this forum and .mobi? Nothing.
What is the difference between hyping the sellout of NNNNN.com on this forum and .mobi? Nothing.
What is the difference between hyping IDN.IDN and .mobi? Nothing.
What is the difference of hyping 3-d related domains and .mobi? Nothing.

Yet, it is scum and rodents like you and me that are responsible for people spending their money on a .mobi.

As we have mentioned and discussed in the past, .mobi is best used as sites. Very well constructed sites and very profitable sites. However, there are clear cut cases of parking certain keywords with high CTR and profitability as well as the .com. Look, nothing is going to convince Raider of Arc that .mobi was and is a profitable part and a utilized part of domaindom, expecially if I am involved in this thread. I mean, lets face it...when she points out that I have placed the prefix "un" in front of a word, she has busted me redhanded.

We can only hope that we could measure up to her raw, premium portfolio...pure high value, high demand english words without any prefixes, suffixes, no plurals, no adverbs, no adjectives...pure, virgin, and hallowed just like she and her heart.

She, who is so wise and knowledgeable...she who has made a living on never misleading, misguiding, selling for profit...she who is gracing us with her presence...she who is taking her time to repent vermin and turds like us...she who is taking away from her valuable non-profit charitable sites...

...we are not worthy to appear in the same thread, the same post, the same forum. We, blasphemers who dare to question her gospel, should bow down on our knees and beg for forgiveness for leading astray our "fellow man".

Oh, Mother Eva of Domaindom, please shine thy light of mercy upon our souls that we may see the truth.

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When was that from 2009 / 2008 ? I believe I made money on those too lol You are so full of piss and vinegar aren't you, did you not get a hug today? LOL I am constantly changing my portfolio, but there are some premium core names that remain and will do so.

You do suck, you know that.

How dare you reg a name and allow it to drop! This is a slap in the face to Mother Eva and her quest for perfection.

She has NEVER let a name drop.
She has NEVER regged a name out of desire and lust for it.
She has NEVER sold a name for profit.

Perfection is hard to achieve and impossible for mere mortals like us. We suck, we are not worthy, we are destined to burn in hell for what we have done to our "fellow man".

Let not he who spent his money on his own behalf be blamed for he is innocent, he was duped, he is forgiven. He who made a decision to purchase a domain was indeed possessed by the demonic forces that exist on this very forum. It was Satan incarnate as Doc Com that hexed and bewitched and befuddled the minds of the meek. Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

 

[Newton]

Gerry Look what I found lol

http://www.losers.mobi/duty_calls.jpg

 

[katherine]

Is dot mobey part of the Internet ?

 

[Raider]

When was that from 2009 / 2008 ? I believe I made money on those too lol You are so full of piss and vinegar aren't you, did you not get a hug today? LOL I am constantly changing my portfolio, but there are some premium core names that remain and will do so.

Premium and core names huh? Like Fergie.mobi?.. Yeah let's go from crap.mobi to cybersquatting.mobi... Let's infringe on a name from the Royal Family.. Your quite a guy.

And what does "I made money" really mean? Does it mean making a buck or 5 bucks on a domain you lost your ass on?... You and Doc are so much alike, 2 idiots who blindly registered 500+ Mobi's and got stuck with them because they were too stupid to realize what they registering would not be used on a handheld device. FOOLS.

since she was so hammered and bruised on recent thread.

If I remember correctly it was you and namehoney who got hammered.. Slapped down is a matter a fact when you didn't get your way closing down the P section. And what you did afterward by creating that signature image of my Avatar with a dildo, That was classic "Gerry" pouting as usual and showing his vindictive side because he LOST the battle. Do you know how childish, bitter and asinine you looked when you did that? Do you ever stop and think what your peers and the administrators of this Forum are thinking of you? Apparently not, When somebody get's the best of you, you brush that all aside and choose to make a complete ass out of yourself.

When I look at some of the names your trying to sell here I just laugh my a*s off..:lol:.

You try to portray yourself as some big time domainer when in reality your just a small timer who peddles in hand reg garbage, And dressing up that garbage with Photoshop and pawning them off for 25 bucks a pop.

She has NEVER let a name drop.

Sure I do, I already posted in other threads that I allow domains to drop every month, I posted this in Biggies thread about low-ballers... Just like Doc, always the LIAR.

This was a thread and a post to suck people in so she could admonish them in some manner.

Yeah, you posted this 2-3 times already, perhaps it's not getting the attention it deserves because nobody is buying into your bullsh*t.. They know this was a civil thread until you came in here and intentionally trashed it... By flaming and trashing this thread, you gave it the illusion this was the motive when in reality IT WASN"T.

What is the difference between the hype of L-L-L.com on this forum and .mobi? Nothing.
What is the difference between hyping the sellout of NNNNN.com on this forum and .mobi? Nothing.
What is the difference between hyping IDN.IDN and .mobi? Nothing.
What is the difference of hyping 3-d related domains and .mobi? Nothing.

The difference is just what I noted earlier... Mobi was promoted, pumped up and exaggerated LIKE NO OTHER TLD.


Here's an example of your pal Vision posting every corporation who uses mobi.. This is quite a lot work he did, and he found it absolutely necessary to copy and paste this propaganda in at least a dozen other mobi threads.

http://www.dnforum.com/f31/mobi-domains-suck-2-thread-75471.html#post1372359


And here's you doing it with abcnews.mobi;
http://www.dnforum.com/f408/apple-iphone-could-hurt-mobi-extension-8-thread-233097.html#post1194946


But you know what really makes you look like a slime ball? It's when you created a thread *****ing and moaning about members sending you PM's asking for advice... Member's like this guy.

http://www.dnforum.com/f34/mobi-names-becoming-valuable-yet-any-value-these-thread-237362.html
http://www.dnforum.com/f34/mobi-names-becoming-valuable-yet-any-value-these-thread-237362.html

Hundreds of visits to his threads and you guys want nothing to do with him... Ah, the hypocrisy in your signature... Clearly it's NOT Dick Cheney who's stone cold, IT'S YOU!... While Dick was giving $7 million to help the poor, you were here pawing off your crappy mobi's to the gullible.

Your quite a guy Gerry, your family and friends must be so proud.

 

[Gerry]

Gerry Look what I found lol

http://www.losers.mobi/duty_calls.jpg

Sorry, I can only give you one like on that...

WHOO HOOO...I pissed myself!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[owntag]

Congratulations, I'm glad you were able to make a substantial profit, the generics are quite good... May I ask if the buyers were resellers, end users or both?

Thanks

Hi, thanks Raider.
I would say both.
Sucks.mobi sold to Sucks.com and another .mobi sold to a university.
All others were sold to resellers.

 

[Gerry]

Oh man, that sums up beautifully a shitty day of football, a couple of sales on and off the forum, and the start of a new certification tomorrow.

She is only missing the halo around her saintly cranium.

 

[Raider]

Hi, thanks Raider.
I would say both.
Sucks.mobi sold to Sucks.com and another .mobi sold to a university.
All others were sold to resellers.

NP, Nice to see you were smart enough to focus on desirable and generic keywords.. I find it far more profitable to invest in a small number of domains that are high in quality than invest in a large number that are low in quality.. I for one am not a mobi investor for 2 reasons; I didn't want to take the gamble and run the risk of not seeing a return on my investment. Second, I always saw Mobi as a TLD that would ultimately FAIL, a TLD that was not necessary to view handheld devices in their correct format, feeling this way, I could not in good conscious sell them off to somebody else.

When I was reading that approximately 1 Million registered .mobi domain names were registered out of 187 million registered domains., it pretty much confirmed what I believed all along.

Only 11 more days to Chinese New Year... Enjoy your celebration my friend.

Is dot mobey part of the Internet ?

Mobi is part of the internet much like a junk yard is part of the auto industry.

a couple of sales on and off the forum, and the start of a new certification tomorrow.

I thought you were already a certified azzhole, Going to get re-certified are you?

 

[Newton]

Premium and core names huh? Like Fergie.mobi?.. Yeah let's go from crap.mobi to cybersquatting.mobi... Let's infringe on a name from the Royal Family.. Your quite a guy.

Fergie is also a friend of mine, his name is Ferdinand so please try not to be a dolt. While we are talking about being a dolt, you should learn the difference between Your and You're

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4713908429_93186ab4c8.jpg

And what does "I made money" really mean?

It means I made money on mobi which you did not, please try to comprehend.

Does it mean making a buck or 5 bucks on a domain you lost your ass on?

No, wrong again moron we are not talking about your worth as a human being.

You and Doc are so much alike

Thank you that is very sweet of you

 

[Raider]

Fergie is also a friend of mine, his name is Ferdinand

I seem to recall you telling us Rosie Palm was your friend, Now you have a friend named Ferdinand?.. Did he replace Rosie?

:lol:

It means I made money on mobi which you did not, please try to comprehend.

If making nickels and dimes is your definition of making money, the more power to you, I for one wouldn't waste my time with $1 to $25 sales, I'd rather take that energy and search out some good dot coms that I can sell to potential end users who will ultimately develop them. Like the one I sold up in Vancouver where your at, A medical related franchise that wired high xx,xxx into my escrow account, just as many others have. .... But what would you know about end-users other than dreaming that one might contact you some day?

Now let's get back to the discussion at hand shall we? (not your hand)... I'm going to do you a favor and post this article with the hope you'll pull your head out of you **s and learn by it;


Some investors refuse to lose faith in domain names

As mobile technology changes fast, so do chances to invest in it. The popularity of Facebook pages and smartphone apps may signal the death of dot mobi.
BY BRIDGET CAREY

Rick Schwartz made his fortune the new-fashioned way, raking in millions of dollars buying and flipping domain names, like Candy.com , which he sold for $3 million.

But the South Florida ``Domain King's'' wish-I'd-thoughta-that money-making formula has gone sour of late. And he's not alone.

Schwartz and other Internet tycoons who paid tens of thousands or more scooping up domain names that end in ``.mobi'' -- which are designed to be easily viewed on mobile screens -- have found the names are now all but worthless.

The iPhone is to blame, of course. Newer phones can load websites easier, plus with a multiplicity of apps and built-in Google search bars, it's unnecessary to use a specific dot mobi URL.

If only someone had told Schwartz that before he shelled out $200,000 for flowers.mobi in 2006.

``I'm not prepared to say its a flop,'' Schwartz said of that particular purchase. ``When you win big, sometimes you lose big also. I swing for the fences all the time.''

The dot-mobi land rush is a cautionary tale for investors. The faster mobile phone technology changes, the smaller the window of opportunity is for speculators.

Speculators like Mark Sandulli. In 2006, the Deerfield Beach domain name investor spent $40,000 to gobble up 500 dot mobi names -- most with three letters, like wiz.mobi, paw.mobi, rum.mobi and doh.mobi. Made sense at the time.

A year later came the iPhone and its apps. He sold dui.mobi at auction in '08 for $7,000, but that was his last big payday.

Sandulli said it's too early to call dot mobi names a failure, for it could take a few more years for it to catch on. He owns zap.mobi and is developing that to be a search engine just for mobile-friendly sites. What gives him hope is large brands, such as Fox News, BMW, Disney, Bank of America, Zagat, Hilton, Time Magainze, and Hertz, have built out dot mobi sites.

He's working with Pompano Beach-based domain registrar Moniker to auction off about 50 to 100 of his mobi names later this year.

``The whole domain market went down, just like the economy,'' Sandulli said. ``I'd like to be the one to breathe more life into this again.''

It's not just the iPhone that made mobi domain names mobile equivalent of an eight-track car stereo. The extension is unnecessary now, thanks to advances in how websites are built. Formerly, a mobi extension was required to follow design rules that made web pages easy to read on a mobile phone screen.

But now, a site can detect that a user is on a mobile device and automatically display in a cellphone-friendly format. Plus, phone keyboards now come with ``.com'' shortcut buttons -- piling the dirt on dot mobi's young grave.

Before the bottom fell out, there were some eye-opening sales in mobi. Poker.mobi was purchased in 2007 for $150,000 -- but fast-forward to today, and it only has basic instructions on how to play the game.

Also in 2007, ringtones.mobi sold for $145,000 and news.mobi sold $110,000 -- both of which don't have any content besides a few ads. SportsBook.mobi, which someone bought for $129,800, still says ``coming in 2007.'' Casino.mobi was the star of 2009, when it sold for $135,000, brokered by Pompany Beach-based Moniker, an Oversee company.

People can still buy sites that end in .mobi. But it would be a waste of money, says online marketer Jacques Hart, chief executive of Roar Media in Miami. Does that mean mobile apps are the future of mobile? Not so fast. ``Apps are going to go by the wayside,'' he said. ``It sounds shocking, because it's been such a dominate growth industry.''

Hart, who does mobile marketing and search engine optimization for clients, said when cellphone browsers get to lighting-fast speeds, users will be more likely to search directly on Google, rather than use an app.

But even if apps lose their popularity, Sandulli and other investors may have an impossible fight against Google and the phones that have the engine built into it. Consider: If someone searched for the phrase zap, or paw -- or any of the generic phrases Sandulli bought -- it won't be at the top of the results because Google will always rank .com and .org names higher.

Mike ``Zappy'' Zapolin, a domain investor in Aventura who made millions selling names like beer.com , diamond.com , computer.com and creditcards.com, thinks those who invested in dot mobi domain names missed the moment and are pretty much out luck. He said investors trying to sell those names today are ``just really hoping that somebody is going to be a bigger sucker than them.''

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