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[garymayor]

People WILL be able to to get WLS subscriptions BECAUSE not everyone will be monitoring the same names there isn't one person that can monitor the net every second of the day. Do people not see it it's all about monitoring names. The average home computer will be able to monitor about 500,000 names every couple of days. Yes you will have to be a programmer but i'm damn sure there will programs coming out that will help people monitor names. I'll write you all one just to make you happy.

The WLS system will be a much fairer system as all you have to do is get the subscription then weh hey you've got the name if it drops. There's nothing that isn't already happening that is going to change the fact the name might not drop. You will have much better chance of winning at this game and you won't need a huge pocket and greedy people won't be able to be so greedy.

The big players will NOT get all the decent names the moment the WLS system opens because there's thousands of people that will know exactly what's going to drop just the same as the big players and there all going to be registering there WLS slots at the same time the big players do. For all those that havn't worked it out yet you will realise soon what you have to do and you are the only people that are against WLS now or of cause the big players.

Everyone will have a much better chance of getting names on the WLS system they just have to be smarter.

PEOPLE STOP SUPPORTING THE CURRENT SYSTEM AS YOU WILL AND I REPEAT IT YOU WILL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING NAMES WITH WLS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GET NETSOL & SNAPNAMES TO CHANGE TO THE WAY WE WANT IT AT LEAST 10 TRIES PER SUBSCRIPTION.

IF ANYONE HAS EXPERIENCE IN CHANGING BIG COMPANIES DECISIONS THEN DROP ME A NOTE AND I'LL SUPPLY THE DOMAIN WEBSPACE LETTERS OR WHATEVER TO GET THE POINT ACCROSS.

TO ALL THOSE THAT NEW THIS ALREADY THEN I APOLOGISE FOR LETTING EVERYONE KNOW. THEY WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT ANYWAY. I'VE HAD ANOUGH.

 

[DotLeader]

*yawn*

 

[garymayor]

hahaha that's one against because he's doing great with the current system.

 

[Kid Kool]

Enough of this nonsense about WLS. It's dead. Just give it up already. If you can't compete under the current system where you can get any name you want if you bid high enough, then maybe the expired domain business just isn't for you. Maybe you got here too late and missed the boat. If only you would have had the foresight a few years ago you might have positioned yourself to be successful. Does someone have to repost that story about the ant and the grasshopper again?

 

[garymayor]

Kidkool now have i got news for you. Your soon going to be lost for words when wls comes because if you think it won't then your the fool. Your just another one that is happy with current system but even you with current system will soon get pissed off with it when you start loosing to higher bidders.
Also i bet my money that you are someone from BD or ULT or rent your own pool 3 connections or you own pool or enom. You aren't telling us the full story your just trying to make people against WLS just so it suits you.

 

[Sharpy]

Originally posted by garymayor
Also i bet my money that you are someone from BD or ULT

Couldn't you just as easily be from veryslime? Pretty silly comment gary :-D

 

[garymayor]

hahaha don't make me laff what was that about hey why else would he be saying bad things about WLS. I'm damn sure the big players are probably on this board trying to persuade people against wls wouldn't you. It is there multy million business so why wouldn't they try to get people against it.

Now you tell me why that was a silly comment. The bloke has got no facts in his message and you well where's your facts to backup your statement.

You anti wls'ers don't seem to have anything to say for your selves do you apart from moan about my syntax.

 

[Kid Kool]

Originally posted by garymayor
Kidkool now have i got news for you. Your soon going to be lost for words when wls comes because if you think it won't then your the fool. Your just another one that is happy with current system but even you with current system will soon get pissed off with it when you start loosing to higher bidders.
Also i bet my money that you are someone from BD or ULT or rent your own pool 3 connections or you own pool or enom. You aren't telling us the full story your just trying to make people against WLS just so it suits you.

If I lose to someone who bid more than I did than it just means someone else was willing to pay more and devote more resources to acquiring it. Just bid more then if you want the name, otherwise just go work at the mall or something. This is just business. There are so many great names dropping every day, just pick the ones you want and go for them. I never think twice about it when i lose(not "loose") a name because I'm already moving on to new names. In fact for me the case is usually that I'm the high bidder on too many names, so sometimes I'm secretly hoping I don't get some of them. If you want a great name, save up your money and bid 5k. then sell that name for 20k and buy 4 more, etc.

If WLS comes it will not make any difference to me because I'm versatile and can adapt. Though I'm strongly opposed to WLS on the basis that it's liberalism and a "dumbing down" of the domain business, I certainly have contingency plans if it were to ever go into effect.

 

[DotLeader]

Originally posted by garymayor
hahaha that's one against because he's doing great with the current system.

me doing great?

i dont think so

just take a look at the names in my sig

i hardly think thats doing great

i KNOW i wont have a chance with WLS

i have high chances with the current system

 

[garymayor]

ah good man kidkool you have something to say. Now the current system is great for people that have got 5k to spend which is the few instead of the many.

Dotleader well if your doing bad then why are you againt WLS because you think you have a better chance of getting names with the current system. In the time you've been doing it how have you done not good you say it yourself now think about this you lot.

How many domains are on the Net?

How many could you monitor each day?

As soon as you see one drop you look at the facts and decide weather or not to put a WLS subscription on it right?

So now you've decided to put a wls subscription on that name now how many other people out the domains on the net do you think are going to see that name drop that day?

If you spend 5k on WLS subscriptions then i'm quite certain your going to make a lot more than you currently are.

It will be better because you will have more chances of getting that domain than at present because not everyone can monitor every domain. If your quick it will save you thousands of wasted hours.

 

[Sharpy]

Originally posted by garymayor
Also i bet my money that you are someone from BD or ULT

Originally posted by Sharpy
Pretty silly comment gary :-D

Originally posted by garymayor

Now you tell me why that was a silly comment. and you, well where's your facts to backup your statement.

Nuff Said
:laugh:

 

[garymayor]

sharpy your pretty sharp aren't you. My point was your wasting space by posting on this forum because you go on about things that don't mean nothing. How do you know he's not from Ult or BD how do you know. So why is it a silly comment. I'm beginning to think your from BD or ULT as you just throw insults at people pro wls. You waste message space unless you've got something to say about it.

 

[Steen]

Jeez, d oyou guys ever get tired of argueing the same fact?


I love to argue, but htis is too much.

 

[garymayor]

hahaha devildude my points exactly some people on this board just like to argue about anything. Some don't even argue they just throw rubbish at ya just to put you down. It ain't gonna work with me though this time they wanna argue then i'll answer every stupid comment that is thrown at me so come people give it ya best shot.

WLS is the way to go so come on persuade me otherwise.

 

[Kid Kool]

Originally posted by garymayor
ah good man kidkool you have something to say. Now the current system is great for people that have got 5k to spend which is the few instead of the many.

But you've got to trade up. When I got started I could only afford to deposit $50 a month into my paypal account. Many people got started just hand regging one or two mediocre names they found at deleteddomains, selling those and putting the money back in. Let's say you only have $500. Now you've got some choices to make. You could buy 10 snapbacks or around 30 godaddy backorders and hope to either snipe a big name or sweep grab a bunch of little names or some low end traffic names. You could also take that 500 and bid on one medium name until you are successful. Then turn around and sell that name for 1-2k and suddenly you have more options. You can then bid 2k on a huge name which could potentially be sold for 15k plus, or you can buy tons of backorders, start building monthly traffic revenue or whatever. So if the market is moving more towards an auction based system, instead of buying 20 snapbacks, just blow your whole wad on one great name and keep trading up.

If you spend 5k on WLS subscriptions then i'm quite certain your going to make a lot more than you currently are.

It will be better because you will have more chances of getting that domain than at present because not everyone can monitor every domain. If your quick it will save you thousands of wasted hours.

I mainly go for traffic names and the occasional huge name, and by zooming in on certain names every day I can snipe a couple names. If a system like WLS were in place, whatever money i can come up with at the opening bell will only get me so far. Ultsearch and others will be able to cover the best traffic names a year in advance because they can afford to speculate that much further ahead. Whatever money comes into my hands after the opening round will be less useful in terms of acquiring new wls slots, since the most treasured ones will have already long been secured. Under the current system, I've got the chance to snipe a great name and pull off the upset if I manage to be the high bidder just sometimes. If I'm not successful oh well, it just means I can throw the money at the next big name that drops tomorrow. If I get it, sell quick for a fast profit, I can come back with more money and keep climbing the rungs on the ladder.

 

[DotLeader]

damn you think we are throwing insults?
look at your posts
your first post was an insult

no matter how hard you try your not going to change my mind on WLS

you think right now snapbacks are available whenever you want a domain that goes on hold?

dont you think thousands of people will be monitering the good domains and staying up till 5 in the morning to add a WLS on it?

people will write scripts just like they do now
so when good domains go on hold the WLS will be taken in amatter of seconds

i am not here to try and persuade anyone that WLS sucks

im just stating why i do not like WLS
all you seem to be doing is insulting people who dont agree with you

if your a small player now
youll be even smaller with WLS

 

[garymayor]

You still think the best names will be snapped before you get a chance. This will happen in the first week of WLS. But then all you have to do is monitor a load of domains and when a good one dies your going to be one of the few that know about it because there are so many to monitor.

Dotleader domains are not going to be snap up when they go on hold or even when they expire it'll be a lot earlier than that.

 

[DomainGoon]

Most of those who support WLS are basically admitting they can't figure out how to compete under the current system.

What does that say about their chances under any other system?

 

[Beachie]

Originally posted by garymayor
People WILL be able to to get WLS subscriptions BECAUSE not everyone will be monitoring the same names there isn't one person that can monitor the net every second of the day. Do people not see it it's all about monitoring names.

The average home computer will be able to monitor about 500,000 names every couple of days. Yes you will have to be a programmer but i'm damn sure there will programs coming out that will help people monitor names. I'll write you all one just to make you happy.

Why would you need to monitor any names? WLS will just register them for you.

If you mean finding names to place WLS's on, then why not just process the zone file?

What's really short-sighted about your arguement is that you presume the bigger players won't be doing this on a much grander scale. You think they have one home computer sitting in the corner of a room 'monitoring' domains?

The WLS system will be a much fairer system as all you have to do is get the subscription then weh hey you've got the name if it drops. There's nothing that isn't already happening that is going to change the fact the name might not drop. You will have much better chance of winning at this game and you won't need a huge pocket and greedy people won't be able to be so greedy.

Sure, a WLS will definately get you the domain. The key point is you won't be able to get the WLS in the first place. BD and Ult will grab as many of the great names as they can in the first minutes of WLS commencing.

The big players will NOT get all the decent names the moment the WLS system opens because there's thousands of people that will know exactly what's going to drop just the same as the big players and there all going to be registering there WLS slots at the same time the big players do. For all those that havn't worked it out yet you will realise soon what you have to do and you are the only people that are against WLS now or of cause the big players.

You don't have a clue as to how much the big players are going to invest in this, do you? Not just the amount on day 1, but over a long period of time. You think BuyDomains will just lie down and die? Here's what they're doing right now - crunching through the zone files, looking for anything that expires within 12 months of WLS opening. Placing dollar values next to each name, and trimming off the top 100,000 so they can invest $4,000,000 on day 1. There may be thousands of domains expiring every day, but maybe 100 per day are really worth owning. $4000 per day is nothing to BuyDomains if they skim off the best 100 domains every day, day in, day out.

Everyone will have a much better chance of getting names on the WLS system they just have to be smarter.

PEOPLE STOP SUPPORTING THE CURRENT SYSTEM AS YOU WILL AND I REPEAT IT YOU WILL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING NAMES WITH WLS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS GET NETSOL & SNAPNAMES TO CHANGE TO THE WAY WE WANT IT AT LEAST 10 TRIES PER SUBSCRIPTION.

IF ANYONE HAS EXPERIENCE IN CHANGING BIG COMPANIES DECISIONS THEN DROP ME A NOTE AND I'LL SUPPLY THE DOMAIN WEBSPACE LETTERS OR WHATEVER TO GET THE POINT ACCROSS.

TO ALL THOSE THAT NEW THIS ALREADY THEN I APOLOGISE FOR LETTING EVERYONE KNOW. THEY WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT ANYWAY. I'VE HAD ANOUGH.

I can't take anyone WHO TALKS IN CAPITALS SERIOUSLY.

 

[Beachie]

Originally posted by garymayor
You still think the best names will be snapped before you get a chance. This will happen in the first week of WLS. But then all you have to do is monitor a load of domains and when a good one dies your going to be one of the few that know about it because there are so many to monitor.

Dotleader domains are not going to be snap up when they go on hold or even when they expire it'll be a lot earlier than that.

Why not run a dictionary and common phrase list against the zone file, and trim out the best names. Then, once you have a list of the best names, trim out everything that doesn't expire in the next 12 months. You could get the list down to maybe 200,000 domains and monitoring those isn't such a big task.

Oh wait, that's what some of us have been doing since 1997.