legal Balance of payments issue from leading industry domainer/broker Kevin Leto

[KRL]

It sounds plausible to me. Add that up with Kevin's network and credibility, etc, if someone were going to pull a scam, I would think it would be on a much bigger scale than this considering the reach Kevin has. It sounds reasonable that it was a business idea that just didn't work out. Hopefully I am right and you guys can all work it out.

Thanks Tia! We will work it all out.

 

[A D]

The traffic is surprising since as you know, .net names get basically no typein traffic. How can it get its traffic from SEO when I did not see it listed in the first 10 pages of Google:

Golfingvideos.net is not in the top 100 in Yahoo, Bing or Google.

-=DCG=-

 

[silentg]

Thanks Tia! We will work it all out.

Who's we? You seem to be ignoring what the op is asking for. His payments. It seems like you're trying to find more suckers.

 

[Theo]

Sometimes I envy the post office janitor; he has none of these high tech marketing headaches to worry about.

 

[razorblade]

Here is a question for Leto to answer - While you are 'reshuffling' and 'tweaking' your BS, why dont you IN THE MEANTIME PAY PEOPLE BACK THE MONEY YOU OWE THEM - IMMEDIATELY.

Sell your house if you have to. Move in with the inlaws. But pay what you promised as per the contract. As I stated in my facebook pms....you are only as good as your word.....

And guess what - Its in the toilet right now.

The owner of a $3M name, men.com, can't pay back $1600 to avoid reputation destruction?

Whether it's ego, denial or not having the money, it doesn't look good from any vantage point, Kevin. The worst part of it is you're busy promoting your botched idea in the middle of a thread that's taking you down. Are you even awake?

I mean this with all sincerity: I'm sorry to hear about your mother. You seem like you're under a lot of stress. The best thing you can do is borrow $10k against men.com and pay the 10 or less people you owe money to and save your rep and your sanity.

Who's we? You seem to be ignoring what the op is asking for. His payments. It seems like you're trying to find more suckers.

The silence is deafening.

You disgust me.

 

[A D]

I think Kevin is a good talker but the bottom line is that there seems to be no money left to pay razorblade back the money he and others are owed.

The rest of this thread is psycho babble.

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[Donna Mahony]

Kevin, will you also be completing minisite/refund obligations?

 

[razorblade]

I know of others who are still waiting for Kevin Leto to START work never mind finish work for paid assignments.......(more than happy to supply details and emails...just give the word Kevin)

I am sure as this story progresses - more and more people will come out of the shadows and call this scambag out for what he is.......

 

[AhmedF]

Time for the pile-on.

Lots of people have paid Kevin Leto for a minisite development. I myself paid him $1000 and have not heard a peep in over 2 months.

This isn't just some fixed domain income stuff. He is screwing people outright.

Hi Kevin friend, I'd like my grand back. Thanks in advance.

 

[razorblade]

Time for the pile-on.

Lots of people have paid Kevin Leto for a minisite development. I myself paid him $1000 and have not heard a peep in over 2 months.

This isn't just some fixed domain income stuff. He is screwing people outright.

Hi Kevin friend, I'd like my grand back. Thanks in advance.

Exactly. And there are more people than you can imagine who been directly conned out of their money still waiting for development.

Go on Kevin. Time to get your calculator out and throw some figures around.......

 

[Bomber8888]

Looks pretty simple here... the business idea went bad and the clients were guaranteed monthly income which they should be paid out on time regardless of external factors. To save Kevin's rep he should clear the debt to his clients and everyone can move on with life again!

 

[AhmedF]

Looks pretty simple here... the business idea went bad and the clients were guaranteed monthly income which they should be paid out on time regardless of external factors. To save Kevin's rep he should clear the debt to his clients and everyone can move on with life again!

You are missing the fact that he was (is?) also taking money for minisite development and not delivering anything. Nothing. Nadda. Zilch.

 

[Gerry]

Sometimes I envy the post office janitor; he has none of these high tech marketing headaches to worry about.

Yeah, but that janitor apparently handles the trash just like many domainers...just sweep it under the rug.

 

[joe9859]

Wrote up a long response and was erased on a misclick...so I'll make it short.

So far I see only 3 types of responses from KRL:

1.) Constant references to profits made in prior business dealings
2.) Denouncing OP for making this public
3.) Selling his idea

Its a very weak argument to say times are rough, business ventures don't always work out and I will pay back whenever it is most convenient for me. Its absurd to promise high returns and project all risks to investors after the fact without prior notification.

 

[jasdon11]

Jadson,

Look at the math of the next phase idea for rev generation from the seller side (my side) when you
launch the FID platform on a larger scale basis.

Let's say you sell a fixed income domain for $500.

You then go and reg 50 good keyword domains. (50 x $7.99)

Place those on a "Reduced Until Sold" platform starting at $95 each and reducing down to $19.95.

A few will sell at $95, a few at $75, a few at $50 and most at the bottom prices of $39.95 $29.95, $24.95, and $19.95.

$95 x 2 = $190

$75 x 2 = $150

$50 x 2 = $100

$39.95 x 5 = $200

$29.95 x 5 = $150

$24.95 x 5 = $125

$19.95 x 5 = $100

Selling just half of the new reg'd domains generates $1000

Deduct $500 cost on a 1 year term FID deal. Now besides any ad sales or regular large domain buy sales,
on the Reduced Until Sold platform you're profitable and you let go of the ones that didn't sell.

Just looks like a bag full of 'ifs'.

There is less liquidity in the $xx market than probably any other area. You would be better picking 2 or 3 names off tdnam.

Either way, it's not scaleable - too time intensive.

 

[nam6641]

The concept makes no sense, it is that simple.

You are going to sell GolfingVideos.net for $750. Then you are going to develop and monetize the site and pay the $750 back over 18 months to the guy. How are you covering the cost of development and SEO? Why are you developing and SEO'ing a domain that you just sold? You're doing all that work and the new owner is going to get all the benefit?

Actually, now that i just went to golfvideos.net i see you probably spent about 20 minutes making that site. Load up a template and load up a script to pull youtube videos. That is the exact type of crap minisite that Google is attempting to yank from the SERPs. No way that crap makes even $10/month.

2 meta keywords? I guess beyond understanding how to develop a true business model, you don't understand SEO either.
<meta name="keywords" content="Golfing Videos, Golfing Videos Free Videos" />

Mercy, this is a site that a 14 year old noob would put together for his first attempt at site creation.

 

[Gerry]

Actually, now that i just went to golfvideos.net i see you probably spent about 20 minutes making that site.

Hilarious! Since you posted this I decided to go take a look and the site is down. Too Funny!

 

[nam6641]

Hilarious! Since you posted this I decided to go take a look and the site is down. Too Funny!

opps, i made mistake in that part of my post, it is golfingvideos.net...

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And i forgot to say, nice touch on the site having the three adsense text link ads stocked on top of each other... that must be something new that none of the guru's discovered yet cuz i've never seen that done before. i'm sure that's driving a high CTR (sarcasim)

 

[Gerry]

keywords: Golfing Videos, Golfing Videos Free Videos
description: Golfing Videos - watch the latest videos and enjoy. Golfing Videos

Wow...that is some serious SEO.

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Note even in the first 200 (20 pages) of results for the keyword Golfing Videos

What is interesting is the google results for "GolfingVideos.net"

All the top results are this topic on dnforum, domainnamewire,weblog,dnsnap,dncrunch,dnmoola, and other domain sites.

 

[nam6641]

I think it is suffice to say that the $50 a month or whatever was being paid, wasn't paid from revenue from the site.

The theory of new investors inflow paying the old investors outflow seems to make sense. That is speculation of course, but I think the claim that that site made adsense income is a crock.