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[Mike Cruz]

Would someone mind explaining how not preventing 9-11 suddenly turns into a positive?

The intel that was passed on to Cheney, Rice, and Bush in June 2001 - was that all lies as well? Is Tenat, Clarke, and the others lying about that?

Please don't use 9-11 as an excuse to HONOR the biggest failure to protect the american people. Please don't use 9-11 as an excuse to totally disregard the entire eight years of injustice. Please don't honor those that died in 9-11 by totally discounting the intelligence to prevent an attack and use that event to tell me how much safer he and his administration made this country.

The is no honor in shame so please do not honor those that did died by such a slogan. That is pathetic. If that is the legacy that you want to sum eight years of ineptness, then yes you should be prepared for a backlash.

Thank you... it is pathetic...

btw, like the little ads in your sig everyday, nice touch!

 

[Raider]

Would someone mind explaining how not preventing 9-11 suddenly turns into a positive?

The intel that was passed on to Cheney, Rice, and Bush in June 2001 - was that all lies as well? Is Tenat, Clarke, and the others lying about that?

Please don't use 9-11 as an excuse to HONOR the biggest failure to protect the american people. Please don't use 9-11 as an excuse to totally disregard the entire eight years of injustice. Please don't honor those that died in 9-11 by totally discounting the intelligence to prevent an attack and use that event to tell me how much safer he and his administration made this country.

The is no honor in shame so please do not honor those that did died by such a slogan. That is pathetic. If that is the legacy that you want to sum eight years of ineptness, then yes you should be prepared for a backlash.

You see Doc, I never posted the sig for any of these reasons... Nice SPIN though.

I posted it to draw attention to the fact that Bush protected Americans when Clinton refused to. Despite the low popularity Bush had for his war on terror, he sacrificed his popularity for doing what was right, and that was Fighting Terrorism head on.

Which is the direct opposite of what Clinton did, Clinton put his popularity ahead of protecting the country from Terrorism. allowing terrorism to flourish for 8 years, leaving Bush to clean it up.

OK, now lets see what idiot injects Iraq into this.

btw, like the little ads in your sig everyday, nice touch!

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I have a Ronald McDonald logo I can post for you, If I treat you to a Kids meal with a Obama bobblehead, will you thank me too? I'll even throw in a Spongebob Bobblehead and a autographed picture of your idol; Patrick.

Let me know OK?

 

[Mike Cruz]

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I have a Ronald McDonald logo I can post for you, If I treat you to a Kids meal with a Obama bobblehead, will you thank me too? I'll even throw in a Spongebob Bobblehead and a autographed picture of your idol; Patrick.

Let me know OK?

Lol, wtf? You really are as miserable as you seem in your posts.

Oh and btw, just because Clinton didn't go around having wars with whom ever he thought was a "enemy" and putting our country in a HUGE amount of debt, doesn't mean he wasn't protecting us.

Bill & Hillary Clinton kept in close contact with A LOT of foreign countries, why? To save us from having to go to war and wasting all of our tax dollars. Bush didn't want anything to do with any foreign country, he thinks like you think (which I am still very puzzled by considering your Phillipino), that they are not important and only America is.

This type of thought process will only continue war til we all blow each other up.

Now take another day off and see what you can come up with to bring a sophisticated comment into this discussion. Even though I have not provided much information behind my thoughts and considering how short my responses are in such a small time frame, they have been much more thorough than yours and you have take whole days to think about it.

Mrs. Sarah Wannabe Palin

 

[Raider]

Oh and btw, just because Clinton didn't go around having wars with whom ever he thought was a "enemy" and putting our country in a HUGE amount of debt, doesn't mean he wasn't protecting us.

How was Clinton protecting us? Name one thing Clinton did to protect us against Terrorism, Just one!

Wars? Who said anything about Clinton having to go to war? He had the chance to extradite Bin Laden from the Sudan but DIDN'T.. You know that dont you?

He had the chance to kill Bin Laden but DID'NT, you must know that too right?

He had strong intellegence from the NBI in the Philippines that Al Quaeda planned to use US commercial planes to fly into US Buildings, Twice the NBI forwarded this information to the Clinton administration, and both times it was IGNORED.

Bill & Hillary Clinton kept in close contact with A LOT of foreign countries,

Oh YES! They kept us close alright, By coddling terrorist nations for 8 years.

To save us from having to go to war and wasting all of our tax dollars.

Hand down, this has got to be the stupidest thing you have posted yet,

"Wasting all our tax dollars"? How much tax dollars have we spent on the War on terror you oxy moron? If Clinton did his job like he was obligated to under the constitution, We wouldn't have Homeland Security, Bush wouldn't of had to invade Afghanistan, Congress would of never approved the war in Iraq.. The twin towers would still be standing and 3000+ American civilians would be alive today. Did you once think of that?

This type of thought process will only continue war til we all blow each other up.

How can that be?, We were getting blown up during the Clinton years, Kobalt Towers, USS Cole, Remember? It was Clintons thought process of NOT ACTING that got us into this mess you FOOL!.

Now take another day off and see what you can come up with to bring a sophisticated comment into this discussion.

Don't have to, I don't sit by the computer all friggin day like you do, I have a Life, Work, Family, Friends, that sort a thing.. But I don't expect a immature little punk like to understand that.

Even though I have not provided much information behind my thoughts

Oh you provided plenty, so much that I plan to submit your information and thoughts to the;
American Academy of Stupidity.

 

[Mike Cruz]

How was Clinton protecting us? Name one thing Clinton did to protect us against Terrorism, Just one!

He didn't need to protect us, he was trying to create peace world wide. He was trying to create a balance where there was not one. Equal opportunity for everyone, although some did not deserve it, he wanted to be a REAL leader of the free world and bring other countries in as well, the exact opposite of Bush. Bush only wanted to create enemies.

Wars? Who said anything about Clinton having to go to war? He had the chance to extradite Bin Laden from the Sudan but DIDN'T.. You know that dont you?

Bush also didn't have to give a billion+ dollars to Osama Bin Laden, but he did.

He had the chance to kill Bin Laden but DID'NT, you must know that too right?

Bush wasn't even thinking about finding Osama, he was clearly just looking for any excuse to invade Iraq with no concrete proof. I am not going to say Afghanistan wasn't necessary, but I will say Iraq was a MISTAKE ~ whether you want to believe it or not.

He had strong intellegence from the NBI in the Philippines that Al Quaeda planned to use US commercial planes to fly into US Buildings, Twice the NBI forwarded this information to the Clinton administration, and both times it was IGNORED.

Let's say this is true, but what about Bush? he didn't know? Give me a f***ing break... your building a very poor case... You are going to tell me with Dick Cheney's ties to the CIA he had no clue about these threats? Or did he and didn't want push informed so he can profit off of the wars?

Oh YES! They kept us close alright, By coddling terrorist nations for 8 years.

Lol, you really are a maniac...

Hand down, this has got to be the stupidest thing you have posted yet,

"Wasting all our tax dollars"? How much tax dollars have we spent on the War on terror you oxy moron? If Clinton did his job like he was obligated to under the constitution, We wouldn't have Homeland Security, Bush wouldn't of had to invade Afghanistan, Congress would of never approved the war in Iraq.. The twin towers would still be standing and 3000+ American civilians would be alive today. Did you once think of that?

Are you f***ing kidding me? LOL, seriously? I am sorry, but all I can think of here is "I can see Russia from Alaska".

How can that be?, We were getting blown up during the Clinton years, Kobalt Towers, USS Cole, Remember? It was Clintons thought process of NOT ACTING that got us into this mess you FOOL!.

compare it to 9/11, the loss of soldiers in Afghanistan and the war in iraq ~ lets see which hurt our country more for Bush's MISTAKES.

Don't have to, I don't sit by the computer all friggin day like you do, I have a Life, Work, Family, Friends, that sort a thing.. But I don't expect a immature little punk like to understand that.

Lol, this is laughable. You have been here a year longer then me, have WAAAAAAAY more posts than I do. You can probably count up 10 different forums I am involved in and it wouldn't come close to 5,000 posts. And don't say its because you do alot of business here or help any, because your itrader shows and so does your previous posts.

Oh you provided plenty, so much that I plan to submit your information and thoughts to the;
American Academy of Stupidity.

I am not even sure if you are being serious here or funny, but I have to say it was incredibly corny and I really expected more from you... actually, no I didn't...


Bottom line, Bush and Cheney ruined our country and put it in the position it is in today.

Btw, were you born in this country? Was your husband a soldier?

 

[Gerry]

Yes, Clinton had his chance, took it and missed.

Now, how many chances did Bush have? Did the urge or need to take out bin Laden suddenly diminish with the change of the guard? No chance.

Was Bush getting daily intel briefings? Absolutely. Even as a candidate, Bush was getting daily intel briefings.

Reading and listening to people like Tenant, Clarke, and other former intel and Bush insiders, Bush had between 17-19 chances to take out Osama with concrete hard intel gathered on the ground. All it took was to be given the green light to do it. But Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush did not view Osama and the Taliban a threat and Afghanistan did not fit in with Bush's plans.

So rather than lay blame on Clinton for taking a shot and missing, its okay for Bush to have had the chance(s) and been too chicken shit to take it?

How can you feel good about the post 9-11 aftermath when there is a possibility it could have been averted?

The fact that nothing was done in the months leading up to 9-11 does not erase the deaths of thousands of people here in the states. And the "rallying" around the attack and using that as the battle cry and as an excuse to invade Iraq and contributing to hundreds of thousands of deaths is a national and international disgrace.

Just as much a national and international disgrace as the Mission Accomplished banner.

Big Gulp: A group of humans that rely on the words of another.

Obama: A leader that blames his mistakes on others. :lol:

And your reliance?

I get a big kick out of reading, listening, hearing all these bush insiders talk and discuss what went on in the closed Bush society.

Obama does not have to blame others.

But I will.

Bush is a national disgrace and a war criminal. The same is true for Cheney, Rumsfled, Rove, Libby, and Gonzalez. Not only did they falsify and fabricate intelligence (I know, hard to use that word "intelligence" in the same sentence with these people) to justify invading Iraq, the VP's office gave the go ahead to drop the name of Valerie Plame as being a CIA operative in Africa because her husband came out against the war in Iraq. That, comrade, is treason at the highest level.

Obama is an idiot for allowing the investigation into interrogation tactics as Bush has already issued a Presidential Pardon for him and his staff back in the fall of 2005. This would be a huge waste of taxpayer dollars, just like the Kenneth Starr special counsel debacle.

Enjoy watching people defend Bush's actions when his own people do not.

 

[Raider]

He didn't need to protect us, he was trying to create peace world wide.

Clinton didn't need to protect us? LMAO.... History has already proven you wrong on this you idiot! Wake up!

Clinton and world peace? What peace? Your not referring to Israel are you?

Let's say this is true, but what about Bush?

NO, not about Bush, Bush wasn't President when Al Qaeda was building their network for 8 years, Bill Clinton was.. .So what about the warnings that went ignored? can you answer for them? And why didn't Clinton hunt down Al Qaeda after the Kobalt bombing? or the USS Cole attack?...

Better yet, Why didn't Clinton extradite Bin Laden when he had the chance?

And why didn't he give the Kill order when we had him in our sites?

So what's your answer? Bush/Cheney again? LMAO

compare it to 9/11, the loss of soldiers in Afghanistan and the war in iraq ~ lets see which hurt our country more for Bush's MISTAKES.

No, I'm not going to play compare games with you, I'll ask again:

Clintons thought process was not to retaliate after the Kobalt Towers and USS Cole attack, And not defending Americans from further attack, So what did that get us?

don't say its because you do alot of business here or help any, because your itrader shows and so does your previous posts.

How many posts I make and what my itrader rating is has no relevance on this discussion... But if you really want to know, I come here for the entertainment, DNF is my get away when I can sit and watch Liberal a-holes like you make fools of themselves, I bust a gut every time I read lines like;

"To save us from having to go to war and wasting all of our tax dollars"

or;

"He didn't need to protect us",

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Yeah, Clinton saved us a ton of money didn't he? ound:

You know that surplus he left behind? It really wasn't a surplus at all, more like a down payment for Bush to clean up the 8 years of terrorism Bill Clinton left behind.

Bottom line, Bush and Cheney ruined our country and put it in the position it is in today.

Bush gave us 7 years of prosperity and made the Country more secure than it's ever been, Are you another one of those idiots who thinks the mortgage crisis was Bush/Cheney's fault?

And just how many years of prosperity do you think Obama will give us?

 

[Mike Cruz]

Lol, "Jesus Christ" you are f***ing delusional... take a xanax and go to sleep ~ I never thought I would say this, but you are more idiotic than sarah palin...

Husband marries a foreigner, brings her to the states, brain washes her into a conservative crazy machine and this is what you get.

Please stay away from Rush Limbaugh and Hannity... it seems like you are quoting there craziness word for word...

 

[Raider]

Lol, "Jesus Christ" you are f***ing delusional... take a xanax and go to sleep ~ I never thought I would say this, but you are more idiotic than sarah palin...

Husband marries a foreigner, brings her to the states, brain washes her into a conservative crazy machine and this is what you get.

Please stay away from Rush Limbaugh and Hannity... it seems like you are quoting there craziness word for word...

So now the little boy is running away, Slinging personal insults about my family instead of providing answers.

People like you are the scum of the earth. Your the lowest form of life.

Not only that, you've proven to everyone here what a LOSER you are, I'll bet you dropped out of high school just like you dropped out of this debate.

When presented with facts about 911, in which he himself made part of this thread, what does this pathetic excuse of a Man make part of the discussion?

Sara Palin
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
John Kerry
Glenn Beck
My Husband
and of course; "Christian Fanatics".

I'll bet before it's all over, he'll be injecting my kids and our pet dog "sparks" into this.

Congratulations Zurc!, You just exposed to everyone what LIBERAL TURDS like your are made of. Thank you!

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When you decide to grow up and pull your head out of your a*s.... Give this article a read OK?

http://www.infowars.com/saved pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm

 

[H2FC]

Another day....another enemy.

The just rewards for one who would use scornful and disdainful messages to support the Bush Presidency....the man who did more harm to our country than any other in history.

 

[DomainsInc]

What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.

 

[Mike Cruz]

So now the little boy is running away, Slinging personal insults about my family instead of providing answers.

People like you are the scum of the earth. Your the lowest form of life.

Not only that, you've proven to everyone here what a LOSER you are, I'll bet you dropped out of high school just like you dropped out of this debate.

When presented with facts about 911, in which he himself made part of this thread, what does this pathetic excuse of a Man make part of the discussion?

Sara Palin
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
John Kerry
Glenn Beck
My Husband
and of course; "Christian Fanatics".

I'll bet before it's all over, he'll be injecting my kids and our pet dog "sparks" into this.

Congratulations Zurc!, You just exposed to everyone what LIBERAL TURDS like your are made of. Thank you!

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When you decide to grow up and pull your head out of your a*s.... Give this article a read OK?

http://www.infowars.com/saved pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm

Lol, your the crazy starting the name calling. How did I insult your family? How am I running away? You conduct yourself in the most pathetic way I have ever seen. Scum of the earth? Really? Thats quite farce... You really are a psycho path, you should give good ol' Patty a call and see if she is available to hang out, I think you two will get along great.

Oh and I was right about you/ your husband though huh? I didn't see you deny it...

I know, I know, I am good...

 

[cadillac880]

Mike,

With all do respect you don't know how you insulted this young lady's family?

Among other name calling and insults you dished out at this young lady in this thread you stated the following:

Btw, were you born in this country? Was your husband a soldier?

Husband marries a foreigner, brings her to the states, brain washes her into a conservative crazy machine and this is what you get.

Oh and I was right about you/ your husband though huh? I didn't see you deny it

Its one thing to debate a political point but another to insult this young lady's family that of whom you probably really know nothing about. It shows a complete lack of dignity, maturity, and respect.

With regards to this especially: Oh and I was right about you/ your husband though huh? I didn't see you deny it

What does this have to do with anything? Her marital status, whether or not she was born here, how she met her husband, etc.

If you don't see how you insulted her or her family that's really sad.

May I suggest showing a lady a bit more respect?

Thanks!

How did I insult your family?

 

[Raider]

Lol, your the crazy starting the name calling.

I insulted your intelligence, which was quite deserving considering you debate like a 8 year old and have posted nothing but nonsense since you started posting about my sig.... It's no wonder you wont debate in the political section, you don't want to make a bigger fool out of yourself than you already have.

Oh and I was right about you/ your husband though huh? I didn't see you deny it...

You haven't been right about anything in this thread, including this, I'm not going to allow a blistering idiot like you to lure me in with bait so you can change the subject and avoid answering the hard questions.. Which I'm still waiting to hear.

you should give good ol' Patty a call and see if she is available to hang out, I think you two will get along great

So now your comparing me to a theif and a scammer? LMAO!!!... This just keeps getting better.

Allow me to add her to the list of answers you have for 911 and my sig.

Sara Palin
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
John Kerry
Glenn Beck
My Husband
Patty Smilen

Classic.


He even designs like a 8 year old... No wonder why he was so impressed with Docs sig logo's, Doc's are far better than his and Doc's not even in the web design business. A 6 year old using Photoshop can do better than this;

http://zurc.net/images/stories/dummy/auto.jpg

Love what you did with the colors!

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[Gregcyber]

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[Theo]

As I predicted, Obama controls the Internet because you didn't register your domains early on!!!

 

[Gerry]

Drill, Baby, drill!

 

[Mike Cruz]

He even designs like a 8 year old... No wonder why he was so impressed with Docs sig logo's, Doc's are far better than his and Doc's not even in the web design business. A 6 year old using Photoshop can do better than this;

http://zurc.net/images/stories/dummy/auto.jpg

Love what you did with the colors!

ound:

AHAHAHAHHAHAHA Your desperation throughout this thread had been hilarious, but this tops it off...

If a client requests black / white and grey coloring, your telling me I should produce a rainbow logo? Lmao, you really are incredibly stupid.

I have made some very nice money doing what I do and for only part time it is A LOT more than some people make year working full time and over time.

Don't be so envious, please pick up a book and get a education, maybe do something more productive with your time.

 

[Area52]

More money need to stop Free Speech

Pelosi Asks for $100K to 'Fight Smears'

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has launched an urgent effort to raise $100,000 by Monday to help combat what she calls GOP "smears" about health care reform. "Republican opponents of reform are coming out with one outrageous smear after the next, all aimed at derailing our progress. We must be able to counter their special interest-funded attacks and set the record straight," Pelosi wrote in a letter to Democratic supporters. "That's why I have set a goal of raising $100,000 in grassroots donations before the August FEC fundraising deadline," says Pelosi.

The seeds planted to stop free speech by a leading democrat.

Talk about special interests. Pelosi has reported assests of over $100,000,000.00.
She should be able to raise 100 grand with one phone call.
Instead she pushes a cheap PR stunt that mocks Americans expressing their Constitutional rights.
Who is the real un-American here?

 

[think]

Talk about special interests. Pelosi has reported assests of over $100,000,000.00.
She should be able to raise 100 grand with one phone call.
Instead she pushes a cheap PR stunt that mocks Americans expressing their Constitutional rights.
Who is the real un-American here?

umm because grassroots donations is support from average Americans expressing their opinion and not billionaires trying to get people to support their profits through spending millions on fear tactics and smear campaigns..........

but if people feel left out they too can raise funds to help the billionaires like David Koch defend their right to make huge profits by supporting his "non profit" organization Americans for Prosperity. You know the guys with the bus with the big red hand on it going around the country comparing Obama's health care plan to the holocaust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC65hipGB_E

Thank you for supporting billionaires for wealth care............