china bans individuals from registering domains

[DaddyHalbucks]

No surprise here.

China is a totalitarian state. There is no point in registering domains there or doing business there or visiting it. It's a damn shame too, because I hear the Himalayas are gorgeous in the Spring. And, it has hundreds of millions of web surfers. Personally, I would feel very unsafe in China, but that is just my personal opinion. Communist governments have murdered over 100 million people since 1917. I don't trust the Chinese government at all.

I can live very well without low quality merchandise, poisoned consumer products, increasing the trade imbalance, and funding a potential adversary.

And now, they are stifling dissent and censoring the internet.

In my ledger, .CN has dropped to $0.

 

[snicksnack]

Unsafe in China ? I guess you have never been here. If you compare big cities like Beijing, Shanghai with big cities in the USA, it is much safer in China.

Many countries censor internet not only China. If it an activity is considered illegal in a country then they can block the website. Someone mentioned already the issue of the Kentucky domains here, this is not much different, it is actually worth than simply blocking the websites.

 

[Wot]

Unsafe in China ? I guess you have never been here. If you compare big cities like Beijing, Shanghai with big cities in the USA, it is much safer in China.

Much safer, and yes I have been to both countries and a few more.

I used to be surprised at the lack of knowledge of individuals from the "west" regarding Asia and China in particular.

Having seen so much unsubstantiated garbage from so many I am no longer surprised,simply saddened. :sad:

 

[katherine]

Sure, no country is perfect but China is an Internet censorship champion.
Hardly surprising that the Chinese regime will want to exert the same amount of control over their own TLD. We all know it's not just about pornography or 'illegal' stuff. In China dissident political views are 'illegal' too...

I have always refrained from investing in .cn domains because of that.
In my books, .cn is a high-risk extension, riskier than Tuvalu.
I'm sorry to say that as .cn is a major ccTLD.

 

[snicksnack]

which dissident would be so stupid and voice his/her opinion on a .CN domain ?

If you register a .COM with an US registrar, the cowboys also might just decide to seize your domain, because you mentioned "Cuba" and they didn't like it.

 

[italiandragon]

It is a very worrying precedent tbh.

.US, .CO.UK, .DE and .CA already have nexus requirements, but if they suddenly said that only companies could register them, there would be more than a little shake up, of that I'm sure.

I'll stick to the ones w/o any nexus requirement. Btw, even .in adult content and gambling is prohibited for Indian citizens.

which requirements?

Anyone can reg .co.uk and .de

rather you forgot .com.au there

This move from the Chinese Govt. is very good actually.

Hopefully this will force porn addicts to use .com or .net only in the future.

And eventually push the USA to realise that they got a ccTld to use.

 

[dominator]

which requirements?

Anyone can reg .co.uk and .de
...
And eventually push the USA to realise that they got a ccTld to use.

for .de you need a german contact address

.com will remain u.s. cctld, even if it is officially not

 

[HE]

No surprise here.

China is a totalitarian state. There is no point in registering domains there or doing business there or visiting it. It's a damn shame too, because I hear the Himalayas are gorgeous in the Spring. And, it has hundreds of millions of web surfers. Personally, I would feel very unsafe in China, but that is just my personal opinion. Communist governments have murdered over 100 million people since 1917. I don't trust the Chinese government at all.

I can live very well without low quality merchandise, poisoned consumer products, increasing the trade imbalance, and funding a potential adversary.

And now, they are stifling dissent and censoring the internet.

In my ledger, .CN has dropped to $0.

Okey...Well, we all have a freedom of speech, everyone can share their opinion. So i agree with you up to a point, but i can't agree with you as a whole.

The real China has a lot of problems that's true, but not as you know and not as your media reports either. (Unfortunately, i see a lot of western media bias against China, now the same.)

China and Chinese people are not evil, their are very kind-hearted and friendly like most people of the world. China's problems i think every country has have, like Environment/Unemployment etc... In the net age i don't know why some people still don't like chinese or China, are they still can't find the true? Of course, i think the language barrier is one of the reasons(Just like my poor english...) and the different cultural backgrounds is another of the reasons(Just like European dragons and Chinese dragons...).

China has an old saying:"What you hear about may be false; what you see is true." Of course, i think you've heard another version of the "Words are but wind, but seeing is believing.", if you have some free time, welcome to China my friend, to see a real China. ;-)

Back to the topic, i think it's a huge mistake of the China govt, they want to solve their problems, but this is not the right way to do it. Just like i said that i have a lot of .CNs, this thing may make me a huge loss... But I still think that .CN has high value, like Single-letter .CN domains prices are still maintained at US$xxx,xxx, platinum One-word domains are the same. And most international corps own their .CN domains more and more, like Microsoft/Google/Yahoo/Twitter(Almost all major networks companies.) & Wal-Mart/GE/Allianz/Carrefour/HP etc...

So be optimistic my friends, this is not the end of the .CN world... arty:

Anyway, merry christmas and happy new year guys, and please :focus:

 

[Anthony Ng]

No surprise here.

China is a totalitarian state. There is no point in registering domains there or doing business there or visiting it. It's a damn shame too, because I hear the Himalayas are gorgeous in the Spring. And, it has hundreds of millions of web surfers. Personally, I would feel very unsafe in China, but that is just my personal opinion. Communist governments have murdered over 100 million people since 1917. I don't trust the Chinese government at all.

I can live very well without low quality merchandise, poisoned consumer products, increasing the trade imbalance, and funding a potential adversary.

And now, they are stifling dissent and censoring the internet.

In my ledger, .CN has dropped to $0.

It's weird already anyone would still buy into that kind of cold war propaganda even 10 years ago, not to say posting it on a forum in 2009 AS IF it's true. It makes the Chinese propaganda (that the U.S. is an extremely corrupt society where black people are oppressed, gun violence is widespread and drug plaguing among the youth) way more credible.

More importantly, this type of misinformation (if not disinformation) actually dilutes other serious efforts to criticize China. It only makes the true dissidents look bad, for God's sake. My advice is, at least get the FACTS straight BEFORE commenting.

And more on the topic, this also shows the role of research in business decision making.

 

[italiandragon]

It's weird already anyone would still buy into that kind of cold war propaganda even 10 years ago, not to say posting it on a forum in 2009 AS IF it's true. It makes the Chinese propaganda (that the U.S. is an extremely corrupt society where black people are oppressed, gun violence is widespread and drug plaguing among the youth) way more credible.

More importantly, this type of misinformation (if not disinformation) actually dilutes other serious efforts to criticize China. It only makes the true dissidents look bad, for God's sake. My advice is, at least get the FACTS straight BEFORE commenting.

And more on the topic, this also shows the role of research in business decision making.

:lol: I wanted to reply too but I censored myself in time

Its not worth the time arguing.

 

[snicksnack]

wondering how many people giving staements here about China have actually ever visited the country, left alone seen the development over the last 20 years.

 

[Millering]

What are you basing this on? I don't see why this would effect prices, at least end user prices. .

Well, based on the real situation ,Eg:
1)lll.cn priced above 1000rmb before, now dropped to 500rmb,
2)cvcv,cn at least 200rmb before, now audtion platform even rejected your audtion application.:disappointed:

 

[italiandragon]

wondering how many people giving staements here about China have actually ever visited the country, left alone seen the development over the last 20 years.

don`t worry about it, those people who criticize will be left behind in their own era.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Unsafe in China ? I guess you have never been here. If you compare big cities like Beijing, Shanghai with big cities in the USA, it is much safer in China.

Many countries censor internet not only China. If it an activity is considered illegal in a country then they can block the website. Someone mentioned already the issue of the Kentucky domains here, this is not much different, it is actually worth than simply blocking the websites.

No, I have never been there and I will never visit. As long as you have a brutal, oppressive, totalitarian government you can count me out. I also limit my purchases of Chinese made products for the same and similar reasons.

Unsafe? Yes, very unsafe!! However, it is not crime that concerns me so much. Criminals have little power. I am most worried about the power of corrupt governments. Individuals are powerless against such forces.

Kentucky is a poor example. Gambling activity is a commercial activity or commercial speech, certainly not political speech.

In the US, we have the First Amendment which protects political speech. If and when the Chinese government adopts something very similar to the US Constitution, I might reconsider my position.

Don't feel so picked on --I feel the same way about all repressive and Communist countries.

 

[raoul]

wondering how many people giving staements here about China have actually ever visited the country, left alone seen the development over the last 20 years.

Prostitution is phrobitited in china, but they do have 24/7 barbershops, where you can get layed 24/7

I am sure they will use their initiative senses with the .cn's

 

[why123]

No surprise here.

China is a totalitarian state. There is no point in registering domains there or doing business there or visiting it. It's a damn shame too, because I hear the Himalayas are gorgeous in the Spring. And, it has hundreds of millions of web surfers. Personally, I would feel very unsafe in China, but that is just my personal opinion. Communist governments have murdered over 100 million people since 1917. I don't trust the Chinese government at all.

I can live very well without low quality merchandise, poisoned consumer products, increasing the trade imbalance, and funding a potential adversary.

And now, they are stifling dissent and censoring the internet.

In my ledger, .CN has dropped to $0.

i feel bad for you. you are nothing, but another brainwashed product of your government.

No, I have never been there and I will never visit. As long as you have a brutal, oppressive, totalitarian government you can count me out. I also limit my purchases of Chinese made products for the same and similar reasons.

Unsafe? Yes, very unsafe!! However, it is not crime that concerns me so much. Criminals have little power. I am most worried about the power of corrupt governments. Individuals are powerless against such forces.

Kentucky is a poor example. Gambling activity is a commercial activity or commercial speech, certainly not political speech.

In the US, we have the First Amendment which protects political speech. If and when the Chinese government adopts something very similar to the US Constitution, I might reconsider my position.

Don't feel so picked on --I feel the same way about all repressive and Communist countries.

don't reconsider your position. keep it as it is.
Chinese people don't live the way you and your fellow wanted them to be. Stop forcing your own values on the Chinese people when they have been bullied for many ages from you. Every state has their own policies to fit into their society, why does China need to adopt "something very simliar to the US Constitution" in order to make it a better state as "you" wanted?

Yes, a so-called Communist state is uprising while the demcoracy state is sinking, i wonder why?

 

[Gerry]

From the point of view of investing...

With a population of over 1.5 billion - yes, there is great opportunity for the internet sites.

On the downside, China made it well known about a year before the olympics that they wanted more computers in use and more .cn domain names than any other extension. Well, they got both.

But what clouded the domain scene was China reducing the cost per .cn domain to 1 yuan which, at the time, was about 13 cents. Naturally, tons of domains were registered. Finding good .cn with traffic and generating revenue is tough to non-native speakers.

Supposedly blocks on sites prevents traffic and revenue. To domainers, that is always a killer. However, some of my IDN's in .com and .net are still getting traffic, most likely from non-mainland China sources.

I am not advocating buying up a bunch of .cn or chinese IDN .com or .net.

But anyone who does not recognize the power and potential for chinese markets is silly. Even American companies don't ignore this. Is it any surprise that american cigarette maker RJ Reynolds is in that market, with production facilities in China? The US total population is a tick over 250 million. The Chinese market (population) is 6 times the population of the US. The debate here is not whether cigarettes are bad or good for you. The point is a market factor of 6:1 when speaking of potential consumers is enormous.

Regime, facists, democracy, whatever...studying other markets is crucial moving forward. The internet is about to become very fractured and segregated with the roll out of IDN. I'd rather be in as many markets as possible.

 

[katherine]

Sure, one cannot ignore the huge Chinese market. But operating in China or under Chinese jurisdiction comes at a price. Even US giants like google or yahoo had to make 'concessions' (you all know what I mean).
Now the other members are equally right in saying the US of A comes with its own share of BS.

 

[raoul]

Sure, one cannot ignore the huge Chinese market. But operating in China or under Chinese jurisdiction comes at a price. Even US giants like google or yahoo had to make 'concessions' (you all know what I mean).
Now the other members are equally right in saying the US of A comes with its own share of BS.

"noone" gets his feet in the market there. "all" big western brands, fail there, they can only wish to get a chunk of their market (especially for IT brands, like google, ebay, yahoo)

 

[Anthony Ng]

No, I have never been there and I will never visit. As long as you have a brutal, oppressive, totalitarian government you can count me out. I also limit my purchases of Chinese made products for the same and similar reasons.

Unsafe? Yes, very unsafe!! However, it is not crime that concerns me so much. Criminals have little power. I am most worried about the power of corrupt governments. Individuals are powerless against such forces.

Kentucky is a poor example. Gambling activity is a commercial activity or commercial speech, certainly not political speech.

In the US, we have the First Amendment which protects political speech. If and when the Chinese government adopts something very similar to the US Constitution, I might reconsider my position.

Don't feel so picked on --I feel the same way about all repressive and Communist countries.

Is it really necessary (to showcase your ignorance ... twice)?

Like I said, business decision making has to be based on serious research. There are always risks in investing or doing business JUST ANYWHERE, but to say that speculating (yes, it's speculation) in .TV is safer than .CN is really pushing it a bit too far, when we simply weigh in the political stability and economic capacity of those petty "sovereign states".