Crazy system

[Bill Roy]

I was recommended to use the keywords 'cosmetic surgery' for tit.st, yes the payout started better at 0.70 euros but then deteriorated quickly to less than 0.10 euros, the conversion rate of click-throughs was only 5 - 7% at best, so changing the keyword back to 'porn' increased click-through to <30% at 0.03 euros! Simple maths said move it back to 'porn'!

The problem is as said above, TexasHoldem.st was getting 1.53 euros a click through then fell through the floor to 0.03 euros a click-through, and that was with unchanged appropriate keyword, this all happened in the space of Friday/Saturday this weekend!

I just am no longer bothered with the hassle, for the few euros a month parking a domain can bring in it is not worth the continued time to keep checking every single day, especially when Sedo will not inform us what keywords will pay what.

To rub salt into the wounds my domain This.St has constantly averaged 80 uniques a day and all American, and yet not one single click through. Even when asked Sedo could not help. I have Green.St that gets 30 uniques a day from Japan, again no help from Sedo there either. Guess what, I am developing This.St into an information site specifically for the US and am having a friend develop Green.St along the same lines for Japan. It is the only way to go. (Mind you I am somewhat stuck on developing 'IllegalWeb.St', I just accept the multiple 0.03 euros per click for that - it has already paid for itself in just this month anyway.)

 

[gemsergio]

hmm quite interesting actually did not consider it but looking at my stats that is what they are obvisouly doing, they are paying much better if the KW is within the domain.
I have 3 financial domains all with the same keyword the second one its actually even more related (better conversion for sure) than the first one.
But the first one has the KW within the name here are the stats of the domains till I moved out the second domain from sedo:
First domain with the keyword inside:
09/28/06 113
13
11.50%
€0.40
€5.17

09/29/06 107
14
13.08%
€0.44
€6.22

09/30/06 23
6
26.09%
€0.58
€3.50

10/01/06 35
12
34.29%
€0.75
€8.99

10/02/06 140
17
12.14%
€0.56
€9.50

10/03/06 130
29
22.31%
€0.48
€13.82

10/04/06 134
20
14.93%
€0.40
€7.96

10/05/06 117
20
17.09%
€0.37
€7.33

10/06/06 108
20
18.52%
€0.23
€4.54

10/07/06 24
8
33.33%
€0.22
€1.79

10/08/06 25
5
20.00%
€0.21
€1.05

10/09/06 80
18
22.50%
€0.13
€2.38

10/10/06 120
25
20.83%
€0.09
€2.17

10/11/06 107
17
15.89%
€0.24
€4.03

10/12/06 39
11
28.21%
€0.26
€2.91

10/13/06 57
16
28.07%
€0.10
€1.58

10/14/06 36
4
11.11%
€0.10
€0.39

10/15/06 26
2
7.69%
€0.09
€0.17

10/16/06 88
15
17.05%
€0.16
€2.33

10/17/06 100
18
18.00%
€0.22
€4.02

10/18/06 115
21
18.26%
€0.21
€4.39

10/19/06 117
21
17.95%
€0.16
€3.31

10/20/06 88
16
18.18%
€0.18
€2.96

10/21/06 23
8
34.78%
€0.17
€1.35

10/22/06 25
6
24.00%
€0.27
€1.64

10/23/06 119
17
14.29%
€0.53
€9.01

10/24/06 101
27
26.73%
€0.50
€13.60

10/25/06 89
21
23.60%
€0.42
€8.90

10/26/06 109
19
17.43%
€0.24
€4.47

10/27/06 76
17
22.37%
€0.33
€5.66

10/28/06 35
11
31.43%
€0.30
€3.34

10/29/06 2
1
50.00%
€0.30
€0.30

second domain without the keyword inside:
09/28/06 198
146
73.74%
€0.34
€50.37

09/29/06 198
136
68.69%
€0.27
€37.08

09/30/06 125
90
72.00%
€0.23
€20.83

10/01/06 158
111
70.25%
€0.20
€22.23

10/02/06 388
292
75.26%
€0.17
€49.17

10/03/06 276
203
73.55%
€0.14
€29.36

10/04/06 244
171
70.08%
€0.13
€22.71

10/05/06 212
152
71.70%
€0.11
€16.99

10/06/06 180
135
75.00%
€0.10
€13.11

10/07/06 117
91
77.78%
€0.09
€8.03

10/08/06 114
91
79.82%
€0.09
€7.91

10/09/06 223
176
78.92%
€0.08
€13.66

10/10/06 200
148
74.00%
€0.07
€11.05

10/11/06 188
133
70.74%
€0.08
€10.00

10/12/06 115
76
66.09%
€0.07
€5.61

10/13/06 147
100
68.03%
€0.07
€7.00

10/14/06 83
62
74.70%
€0.07
€4.30

10/15/06 105
73
69.52%
€0.07
€5.32

10/16/06 15
12
80.00%
€0.07
€0.86

10/17/06 2
1
50.00%
€0.20
€0.20

10/18/06 2
2
100.00%
€0.05
€0.09

10/19/06 0
0
0.00%
€0.00
€0.00

10/20/06 0
0
0.00%
€0.00
€0.00

10/21/06 0
0
0.00%
€0.00
€0.00

10/22/06 0
0
0.00%
€0.00
€0.00

As a last note the traffic comes from the same country as far as quality concerned I am convinced that the second one is by far the best.

 

[domainah]

I am getting 2 cent clicks..for pizza delivery..US traffic ..wow...lowest ever..thats an insult

 

[Deleted member 70843]

we should all write a email asking for the old system back, i think theres
at least 100 users at dnf who would want the old system back.

 

[DomainFatigue]

Sedo has no excuse, rhyme or reason to be paying .04 a click for background screening keywords on a domain directly related to the same. Where the h*ll did the other couple of dollars go? Related to the domain or not, this appears to be nothing but a pretext for them to increase profits on our backs.

 

[Bill Roy]

Well I heard bak from Sara!

It appears Sedo made a mistake, what a surprise, instead of 1.53 Euros I should have been getting 0.65 Euros! Now isn't that a surprise, I was overpaid, but hang on, what about all those low-ball click throughs! 0.03 Euros and alike?

Did I not read somewhere on another post that Sedo had admitted all the Stats were wrong, undercounted that is, and payments were wrong, underpaid, and it was all due to the implementation of the auction system. In the same post it was all going to be fixed and put right within a 48 hour period, a period that has now passed. Has anybody had corrected Stats or click-through paymenst, I haven't!

As I said in another thread 'how can Sedo do something so brilliantly right like introducing the auction listing format and also run what must be the worst organised PPC programs?'

 

[Theo]

Sedo has no credibility. No front-person, no staff able to answer questions and concerns on a forum as renowned as DNF. The practices behind all this require deep scrutiny. I am shocked at the ability of PPC companies to pretty much dictate the revenue cut we receive and to not be obligated to disclose numbers.

 

[DomainFatigue]

I am shocked at the ability of PPC companies to pretty much dictate the revenue cut we receive and to not be obligated to disclose numbers.

They may be riding the gravy train for now, but if they fail to start voluntarily disclosing their cut, one of two things will likely occur eventually: (1) a class action lawsuit; or (2) government regulation.

I know of know other industry that is allowed to run wild without any oversight or accountability whatsoever. Right now, they are enjoying a wild west business environment, but all you need is some indicia of fraud, perhaps leaked by a disgruntled former Sedo employee, and it will all come out during the discovery process...