DNF sales & demand shows signs of slowing down...

[NameYourself]

The answer is simple:

Consolidation. The best names are pretty much in the hands of very few corporations now and won't be sold to anyone other than end users at extremely high prices. The market is now established.

 

[Theo]

I am running out of lakshmi at the moment

Haha! You could have had it for $350

I've got to the point where I will not sell anything for the sake of turnover - rather renew for a few years and play the long game.

Smart move. I've locked down my portfolio to a point where nothing will drop. I don't buy junk names and have been turning around domains that were bought or caught for under $100, into 4 figure sales. It's a non-brainer.

 

[Johnn]

Most of my purchases are private or PM.

I am still buying if the price is right.

The market is YOU. YOU hold the name AND the price.

I saw many names sold cheap because the seller is desperate to sell and either break even or make a penny or two.

Premium (dictionary and 3 good letter) names are still in demand.

Remember - the seller controls the final price, not the buyer - even the transaction is not complete until seller and buyer both agreed on the price.

 

[hugegrowth]

I think it's consolidation plus more demand for quality names. There are less good names available and more people chasing them, which might give the impression of less sales, because low quality names still do not move well and there are as many of them listed as ever (or more). When I started on this forum in early 2005 there seemed to be more good, generic traffic names offered in the sales threads.

 

[David G]

....There are less good names available....

Only a few yrs ago there were some excellent names sold here such as RunningShoes.com and TaserGun.com for example, both of which I just missed getting :veryangry: by minutes and only sold then for low xxx and now worth significant money.

Plus a lot of older domainers now have their portfolios basically complete or at maximum manageable size (myself included) so they are rarely buying anymore.

It is fairly depressing for me since it seems I now come here mostly to read all the popcorn threads involving parked.com, fighting, scams and disputes and little more of knowledge value :disappointed:

P.S. Once I get to the 4,000 post level may not be posting more or visiting much as I need to devote my extensive forum time to better ways of making money with my portfolio, especially now that ppc values are down so sharply :worried: since last yr starting about Oct 06.

 

[GAMEFINEST]

Only a few yrs ago there were some excellent names sold here such as RunningShoes.com and TaserGun.com for example, both of which I just missed getting :veryangry: by minutes and only sold then for low xxx and now worth significant money.

Plus a lot of older domainers now have their portfolios basically complete or at maximum manageable size (myself included) so they are rarely buying anymore.

It is fairly depressing for me since it seems I now come here mostly to read all the popcorn threads involving parked.com, fighting, scams and disputes and little more of knowledge value :disappointed:

P.S. Once I get to the 4,000 post level may not be posting more or visiting much as I need to devote my extensive forum time to better ways of making money with my portfolio, especially now that ppc values are down so sharply :worried: since last yr starting about Oct 06.

You can put some for sale

 

[think]

My thoughts are TAX TIME, emerging TLDs stealing some of the pie , market ambivalence due in part to these new tlds ,and the general beginning of the summer time slow down..............

 

[Gerry]

I am just plain getting burned out on the sales pitch:

-taking offers...just got a PM...now up to $500...oops there's another...now up to $750

-taking offers...I have a dollar figure in mind...just want to see what you offer

-taking offer...I'll let the market dictate what it's worth and then set a BIN.

I really don't have time for the bullshit, the perpetual taking offers and endless auctions that go on for two weeks, and the phantom bidders and offer makers.

This just shows that the seller really has no idea, trying to gauge the market and demand, and is clueless on the value, and thinks many people on the forums are a bunch of damn idiots and don't know any better.

Look at some of the sales threads lately. Members are exposing the games and are simply getting tired of it. I have stopped selling names on this forum because I see them getting buried in the bullshit and false hype.

BIN to be determined later? No kidding...determined by the bidding. Seller is damn clueless from the outset.

Someone has something to sell? Then tell me what you want for it. Otherwise I'm moving on. Time is money, money is time. I will go window shopping somewhere else.

Okay, have a nice day y'all.

...I now come here mostly to read all the popcorn threads...

Ah, yes...the finer pleasures in life.

especially now that ppc values are down so sharply :worried: since last yr starting about Oct 06.

Thanks...I am glad I am not the only one who recognize the downward turn about that time.

 

[Rockefeller]

Probably due to the fact that most offer have very low interest, like dot info names or short dot com names that are unreadable.
The buying demand is in the dot com of quality!

I strongly disagree with the statement that .info sales have slowed down. I will have 4 X,XXX .info sales reported on DNJ tonight. The slow down in sales may be due to the slow down in quality domains. I have seen ALOT on junk of here lately, which is why no one is buying.

 

[VirtualT]

I am just plain getting burned out on the sales pitch:

-taking offers...just got a PM...now up to $500...oops there's another...now up to $750

-taking offers...I have a dollar figure in mind...just want to see what you offer

-taking offer...I'll let the market dictate what it's worth and then set a BIN.

I really don't have time for the bullshit, the perpetual taking offers and endless auctions that go on for two weeks, and the phantom bidders and offer makers.

This just shows that the seller really has no idea, trying to gauge the market and demand, and is clueless on the value, and thinks many people on the forums are a bunch of damn idiots and don't know any better.

Look at some of the sales threads lately. Members are exposing the games and are simply getting tired of it. I have stopped selling names on this forum because I see them getting buried in the bullshit and false hype.

BIN to be determined later? No kidding...determined by the bidding. Seller is damn clueless from the outset.

Someone has something to sell? Then tell me what you want for it. Otherwise I'm moving on. Time is money, money is time. I will go window shopping somewhere else.

Okay, have a nice day y'all.

Ah, yes...the finer pleasures in life.

Thanks...I am glad I am not the only one who recognize the downward turn about that time.

lol, and the rest:

"BOB.com - offers from $100"

-but reserve is 20k,

or

"overstocked, emergency, clear out, fire sale, the dogs died, save the world sale, everything must go in 24hrs leaving the business"

-that has the same names every 2 weeks

or the names that get "sold" but mysteriously reappear back on the forums 2 months later under the same seller.

you know the old saying "you can fool some of the people some of the time"..

 

[David G]

My big pet peeve is the many sellers who post a name saying NO STATS are available but the truth is on many names they MUST have access to some stats since it is now parked (or was recently parked) somewhere?

Sometimes when I PM them asking about it they may say it's only been parked at Sedo or whoever for 1, 2 or 3 days so there are no stats available. But I can usually tell if the name gets any traffic with only 1 day of stats (based on M-F).

When I mention that they still will not give 1 or 2 days of stats but usually say it is not being sold based on traffic or income, but hey, I already know that but I still want the limited data anyway which I can't get. (I consider even a few typeins/week good).

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Slow down in the market ? I wish. These prices are becoming obsurd. I mean when I sale generics for the same price as hyphenated .info...wtf!

 

[Bob]

This just shows that the seller really has no idea, trying to gauge the market and demand, and is clueless on the value, and thinks many people on the forums are a bunch of damn idiots and don't know any better.

AMEN!!! Well said and more importantly, RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

AMEN!!! Well said and more importantly, RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

Bob I am selling [email protected], no wait .info, asking $15K any interest

 

[smashfactory]

jp= how long is the 26k offer gonna wait?

 

[SeanIM]

... I find that more buyers e.g. companies require NDA's to be signed, some negotiate directly and some trust 3rd party brokers or escrow services.

Agreed...

The highest priced domain sale I've been involved with had an NDA attached. I can only speak of the price (31k) and some basic generalities of the domain but not it's name specifically nor the identity of who purchased it.

As for the 'slowing down' in general sentiment of this thread...I'm not entirely convinced of that. I just sold a domain for 2k last week, but it was not just a domain it had typein traffic and some decent revenue. I'll be pushing out a few more properties for sale later next week, I'll see if things seem slower then...

 

[Raider]

I've got to the point where I will not sell anything for the sake of turnover - rather renew for a few years and play the long game.

If you want to get the most money out of your domains, I think this is the way you have to play it, but there are many in this business that rely on reselling domains as there sole income....I suspect there are many here on this forum.

 

[Duckinla]

I think the industry is shifting towards traffic and revenue generating domains. Look at the 20 highest priced domain sales of 2005 or 2006 and see how many are parked. Finding that "end-user" is not as easy as domainers were once led to believe. You can tie up a lot of money for a long time as a reseller.

 

[eq78]

I think less sales due to less quality names and I agree trader its all about TRAFFIC these days a lot of people reading Frank Schillings blog now and every day Frank writing on if there no TRAFFIC screw it.

I agree with ACRO too you need to find other outlets besides here where everyone looking for a bargain, buy and flip in the private sector