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[criticmaster]

I changed the starting price to .01 and the reserve was $49. The fact it got 3 bids means nothing since the bidders knew they wouldn't win anyways. They just do that for fun.

I think PrintSex.com is a great name. You are just some obnoxious guy looking too cause trouble. Let me see your list of domains. Then we'll talk.

 

[NamePopper.com]

Just for the record - we don't delete posts as a rule. The skipper himself does not like other member's posts to be deleted - and feels strongly about that - and we follow his lead. Time & experience has shown that it usually causes the person (who's post got deleted) to just get even more angry and then make even worse comments. It also erases public record of such posts - and makes it look like we are censoring or hiding something.

As you can see - two of us (the staff) jumped in here to warn about such posts. As you can also see - it didn't completely stop the problem - but neither would have deleting them. Either way a person can just keep posting more - and creating more hassle for everybody. So what is the answer? Well....

Soon only platinum members will be allowed to post in the sales threads - and the advertising sections as a whole. This single factor should eliminate a lot of this type of stuff - as you will notice that it often comes from non paying members - such was the case here.

Once that is kicked in - and we see how things go - we will make whatever adjustments are necessary to establish a consistent guideline for everybody to follow. The fact is that 98% of people follow the rules and don't crap in other people's sales threads. Unfortunately those 2% that do - can cause a pretty big stink.

In case you are wondering..."What keeps a trouble maker from becoming a paid member - and allowing him to post in the sales threads even after the switch is completed?".... that's easy. Just because you are a paid member doesn't mean that your membership can't be revoked - if you are found to be a continuous trouble maker. Greg has made this clear from day 1. So if any wise guys have the idea of paying just to be able to trash people - they should think again.

 

[timechange.com]

Crystal clear, NamePopper
When is the scheduled date?

 

[NamePopper.com]

Well..... that one Greg will have to answer. It's soon - but I honestly can't give a date. He's got the programmers working on so many different things right now - that's it's only a matter of time though. Sorry I can't be more specific.

 

[criticmaster]

that won't solve anything, why should platinum get to advertise? Because they paid more money for membership?

It won't make the trouble makers go away. If anything, it will make them dominate!

What you have to do is not allow replies to advertising threads. That way the ad is on there and keeps useless comments off the thread. Any interests can be emailed to the seller.

 

[NamePopper.com]

Originally posted by criticmaster
why should platinum get to advertise? Because they paid more money for membership?

Exactly - and you were informed of this when you signed up.

Originally posted by criticmaster
It won't make the trouble makers go away. If anything, it will make them dominate!

I have no idea what that means - and it goes against everything that has been said.

Originally posted by criticmaster
What you have to do is not allow replies to advertising threads.

No offense..... but that makes no sense. Think about it.
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criticmaster - I have moved the thread to the lounge since the purpose was lost a long time ago. I'm sorry that the person crapped in your sales thread - and we do a pretty good job at keeping that stuff under control. However we are not going to stop people from replying to sales threads completely - because that makes no sense. You can go start a fresh new thread for your > Printsex.com domain name anytime you want to. That's not a problem.

Thanks and good luck with your sale!

 

[Drewbert]

What annoys me is that you allow PRAISE in sales threads but not CRITICISM.

This means that people who are still learning what is (or isn't) a good name might be fooled byt he fact that another newbie PRAISED their name, leading them to think it was worth more than it clearly is.

Which will lead them to registering EVEN more crap.

And the only winner there is Verisign.

The aftermarket suffers (lowering of quality). The poor sod registering all the crap suffers (from a beating by his accountant and/or wife).

Take a browse through a drop list one day and realise that 99% of the names SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN REGISTERED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Here's an idea - in a sales forum, either post an OFFER or SHUT THE F U C K UP!

No more of this "NICE NAME" baloney.

Sheesh - it got a max bid of 6 CENTS FOR CHRISSAKE!!!!

>You are just some obnoxious guy looking too cause trouble.

Nope. Just trying to save you some money.

>Let me see your list of domains. Then we'll talk.

"Never start a war you can't win".

 

[NamePopper.com]

Good morning Drewbert!

I think we all understand your point - but that "poor sod" has all the other sections of the forum to learn from. The 'For Sale' section is for selling names - not discussing them or arguing over them. Attempts to hijack somebody's sales are just wrong - and that's the bottom line. How long do think any business establishment would allow a heckler to enter the building - and stand there yelling and screaming at people that.... "You are paying too much for this crap - it isn't worth it".... before they escorted them out the door?

Also - in all honesty - aren't you overlooking one important fact? Regardless of whether somebody says "nice name" etc. in a sales thread - the "poor sod" can see for himself what names are selling and what names are not - and for what prices. We have to give that "poor sod" some credit don't we?

 

[criticmaster]

Originally posted by Drewbert

Here's an idea - in a sales forum, either post an OFFER or SHUT THE F U C K UP!

Basically this is what I meant. Thank you Drewbert for your encouraging phrase. For those who don't believe in this, I was going to suggest having NO REPLIES allowed to advertising threads. This way criticizm won't occur. If anyone is interested, THEY CAN EMAIL@@@@@@@@ the seller.

What exactly don't you understand about that Namepopper?

 

[criticmaster]

Domains For Sale means just that. It can be a list of domains, domains that I might own on a website or domains up for auction.

And another thing, you are right about that ebay auction. I was trying to get hits for it. That is what advertising is called and that was the same name on the forum thread. What am I missing?

This idea to have platinum members only for advertising is just another money making scheme. All I would have to do is pay the membership fee and I would be doing the same thing I did before.

 

[Jack Gordon]

Originally posted by criticmaster
This idea to have platinum members only for advertising is just another money making scheme. All I would have to do is pay the membership fee and I would be doing the same thing I did before.

ummmmm...... yeah. that's kind of the idea.

$49.95 please.

 

[NamePopper.com]

Originally posted by criticmaster



Basically this is what I meant. Thank you Drewbert for your encouraging phrase. For those who don't believe in this, I was going to suggest having NO REPLIES allowed to advertising threads. This way criticizm won't occur. If anyone is interested, THEY CAN EMAIL@@@@@@@@ the seller.

What exactly don't you understand about that Namepopper?

It is you who are not understanding. If you had read the previous posts - you would realize this has already been addressed completely. Once our transition is thru - people like Drewbert (those who are not paying members) will not be able to post in sales threads. It's that simple.

We will also do whatever is necessary to keep people from becoming paid members - just to abuse others. Again - this was addressed in the previous post if you want to scroll up and try reading it again.

Furthermore - (as also stated before) to suggest we change the entire way the forum works - by not allowing replies to threads - is crazy. After thousands of sales (almost 200 myself alone) do you expect us to change the whole system because you had ONE thread that had a problem? Come on man - think about it.

I'm sorry this happened to you - and I was the one who came in your thread to handle it (scroll up to the beginning) - but you are barking up the wrong tree. Try to calm down and put things in perspective buddy. Don't let a couple insults about a single domain name ruin your whole day - or this great forum for you.

Try to give us a little credit too. Believe it or not - we have been doing this for a while before you arrived - and have become the premier domain forum on the web. DNForum wasn't just put up last month before you got here. We appreciate constructive feedback - but I think we must be doing something right already!

 

[criticmaster]

Well I just think it was wrong for you to bark up my tree about the ebay auction advertising. The point is, you will never know who becomes platinum members. Its not like they have a big sign on themselves that say troublemaker. The internet makes it easy to disguise yourself so changing to platinum won't really solve the situation.

I came to this forum to be an active member in domain selling and consulting. I was hoping I wouldn't have to get in these wars between people. Can't we all just get along?

 

[NamePopper.com]

Um..... critic.

I never said a word about ebay auction advertising. That was somebody else.

Anyway - I do understand your point though - and our goal is (and always has been) to make the place friendly for everybody. Please just hang in there. We are completing a major transition -and we have been very successful here - and things are going to get even better.

We are very happy to have you join us.

 

[criticmaster]

Sorry that was someone else. I get confused when I have to make points to all different people.

I am through with this never ending discussion. Let me just say that I think gold members should be allowed to advertise as well. Usually you talk about non paying members and platinum members. Gold Members seem to be forgotten because there are so few of them.

As for Drewbert, have fun replying to my ads because I could care less what you feel about them.

 

[Drewbert]

>As for Drewbert, have fun replying to my ads because I could care less what you feel about them.

Yes, a lot of people fail to learn from their mistakes.

 

[CoolHost.com]

"This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]" ... I love it!!

 

[Cash Is King]

You have some of those too? Cool!

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Drewbert is 100% right.

PrintSex.com is a crappy domain name. It means nothing. It has no brandable value and no generic value. It is junk.

This is not derogatory, just a professional opinion.

Let the chips fall where they may. If it is really so valueable, then make a case WHY.

If people are too thin-skinned to take criticism from fellow domainers, then they should re-think their vocation, or re-think being a part of a professional group such as this board.

And while I am on a roll, let's end all discussion of censorship. If this board becomes a place where all you can do pat each other on the back and say gratuitous/ false compliments, then it ceases all functionality and is a total joke.

Courtesy, honesty and humility go a long way.

 

[criticmaster]

PrintSex.com is more meaning then most domain names. Maybe the value itself is low because it is two words and has eight letters, but the meaning is mostly obvious. More meaningful then a name like ebay.com or amazon.com. Those are popular sites but if you never went to them, you wouldn't have the first clue what they are about.

Grow up.