For Sale EDeals.com Brings $61,005. At Pool!!

[mole]

Originally posted by domainswithtrafik
Online buying is growing as is the consumers appetite for the latest deals, coupons, and promotions...

I humbly disagree, trafik. Deals, coupons, promotions et el, are the marketing strategies of companies - closely guarded, specifically company branded strategies to push specific sales objectives.

They need trafik to their own respective sites to build momentum for their own wares, not to a catch-all business model like you are suggesting, eg pets.com.

Sites like these will only up the competitive stakes for such companies - rising higher, pushing harder.

Even if this was a business model, I believe froogle.com has already caught on to the act.

My only question is this, if the name meant so much to someone, why didn't they just use their PIs and attorneys to track down the owner of edeals.com before it expired? Maybe you have the answer, trafik?

 

[URLCollection]

Page - you are right on the money!!! $65K is small change to a start-up - We were around 5-7 years ago and that would have been an OK deal back then. Online business are still running 3-5 times 1 years annual gross in sales - Do the math - $1Million in gross sales = $3-$5 Million for a closed sale. The $65K for the domain name starts looking real small then.

 

[mole]

Originally posted by URLCollection
Page - you are right on the money!!! $65K is small change to a start-up - We were around 5-7 years ago and that would have been an OK deal back then.

What about now, collect? The drop game was meant to help the hobbyist and small players the chance to grab good names at relatively affordable prices. The moneyed companies intent on a name just contact the registrant or reseller directly, since time is money.

I know you mean well, collect, since such incidences of madness will help lift the industry. But DNF is not a place where shams, scams and shills are tolerated easily (imagined or otherwise), since many here have been in this game for many years and seen loads of shik. If what you say proves true (and it is DEVELOPED into a buzzing site), then kudos to vision and foresight.

 

[domainswithtrafik]

Mole...whos knows..maybe they tried to track down the original owners....regardless of if they did or not..it is still a premium name that I see will be worth every penny to the "right" group of people

 

[URLCollection]

Originally posted by mole


I know you mean well, collect, since such incidences of madness will help lift the industry. But DNF is not a place where shams, scams and shills are tolerated easily (imagined or otherwise), since many here have been in this game for many years and seen loads of shik. If what you say proves true (and it is DEVELOPED into a buzzing site), then kudos to vision and foresight.

Mole - What are you talking about? I said and will repeat it - $65K for the right domain name is Nothing to a start-up or well funded company - This has Nothing to do with what you call :"the drop game" or anything else. Just commented that Page is "right on the money" - I have seen many deals over $50K this year and this is just another one of those, I think. What is up with this? - "But DNF is not a place where shams, scams and shills are tolerated easily (imagined or otherwise), since many here have been in this game for many years and seen loads of shik".......

 

[mole]

Originally posted by domainswithtrafik
Mole...whos knows..maybe they tried to track down the original owners....regardless of if they did or not..it is still a premium name that I see will be worth every penny to the "right" group of people

Perhaps you are right, fik. Let's track this name like beauty.cc to its final conclusion.

Maybe its just my flashbacks to the past where dreamers ruled the Internet. Maybe I shouldn't be so cynical. Yeah, let's give this the benefit of the doubt.

 

[mole]

Originally posted by URLCollection
I have seen many deals over $50K this year and this is just another one of those, I think. What is up with this?

Just my personal opinion I guess. collect. Let's just see how edeals.com pulls through as a developed site. You could be absolutely on the money.

 

[cyphix]

So much for "e" names losing ground eh?

The name is nice, however not worth that much unless your going to develop it. I do agree with HQ & collect altho, the name & price of $60k+ isn't a whole lot to a start up company with good funding.

 

[mole]

Originally posted by cyphix
the name & price of $60k+ isn't a whole lot to a start up company with good funding.

lol, I'm as stubborn as a bull. As I said, such names with targeted business models and funding behind them don't need to go into a drop state. They just approach the registrant or reseller directly.

Unless of course, its a case of I want it dirt cheap, I know the registrant is dead, and I will take a chance to show how smart I am to my management.

Funny thing though, nexsite screwed those dreams by putting an extra 0 into his bid by mistake. The Internet is funny sometimes.

Maybe you guys are right. I rest my case.

 

[sitehq]

re-approaching the previous owner.......


no one wants to do that, its a weak position, .i can hear me now ..

....(1) ..please please let me buy the name, it sucks but i want it, or

(2) its about to expire and i need you to sit down for six hours
while i explain the expried domains process...


Pool.com is a sure thing, if i pay i get the name, no "first in line if we catch it"..or "you might get it" or if our black box works...the winner gets the name and then can go raise money or sell their boss on developing the site if its a corporate deal, with the name in hand..

plus the agent gets 25% commission....

by the way- how long do we have to wait to get our 25% commissions, i have about 1,000 waiting for me...

would appreciate any help on this.

page

 

[Fearless]

Originally posted by Android
so pathetic. what the heck are these people thinking bidding that much. it's insanity. they are making pool rich, and ruining the aftermarket.

I disagree. Pool is great for the aftermarket. These high prices have increased the value of my whole portfolio, especially the 3 letter .coms. Way to go Pool. Now if they would list the names with high bids and not require you to put a name in your list before it drops, prices would skyrocket. :-D

 

[Steen]

Originally posted by saler
Pool.com earn all the money.

No they don't.

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This seems to me that it oculd reveal fruad @ pool? :dead: :-#

 

[domains]

This auction strengthens the domain aftermarket, but is further proof that the best deals for aftermarket domains are found at smaller, hard-working For-Sale-By-Owner domain brokerages.

 

[bidawinner]

Originally posted by sitehq
heres a rant, let me have it if you want to or make a new discussion.

some of you have been trading at wholesale too long,


edeals.com IS WORTH IT!!!!


Remember, a name can still make a company - edeals - short quicks says it all and is better then the singular, what i call a perfect name.

now for a business to start and pay 65,000, thats only 6500 per year for ten years, or 500 month "rent" to have a great name.

Now what are an startups other options, spend 65,000 on consulting, advertsing, legal or a great name.

page Howe

OK Page I'll let you have the rant.. edeals would be in Trademark of Edeal.com... the only reason to buy edeals.com is as a cybersquatter.

It is not a generic term it is already a branded name.


and besides... edeals ?... you think thats a great name ? yuck.. maybe for a retro computer store ..you know 1990 when everyone was putting "e" before e-verything ..

I dont know Page,.. on the other Hand..

I have a bunch of e-domains domains I'd like to see if you are interested in :laugh:

have a great night...

BID

 

[Spider]

edeals.com just sounds better then edeal.com. A good lawyer could probably defend against any sort of TM suit. The term is very generic I think.

Jason

 

[bidawinner]

Originally posted by Spider
edeals.com just sounds better then edeal.com. A good lawyer could probably defend against any sort of TM suit. The term is very generic I think.

Jason

Oh I see ..now the new owner gets to add attorneys fees..

getting clear and clearerr :laugh:

The point is morals Jason..

beside the fact that a good lawyer/ err smart lawyer wouldnt even take the case because it is so clear cut.

I do agree edeals sounds better than edeal .. but edeals.com gets tons of traffic... edeal.com gets a few few typos..

it's worthless to eveyone except the person trying to hold edeal.com hostage. and it will mostly end up just being another expense

Unless I am missing something this ought to be very clear to everyone.

 

[bidawinner]

I will be also be very interested to see where this ends up..we ought to "sticky" this..

 

[Spider]

Originally posted by bidawinner

The point is morals Jason..

Unless I am missing something this ought to be very clear to everyone.

I personally think you missed the boat here. This is a very brandable domain. I doubt the person who won this has no intention to offer it to edeal.com or anyone else. This would be an easy endevor and site to startup.

 

[clemzonguy]

Someone is going to end up with the domain regardless of whether is was shilled or not. Pool will put it on the market tonight to see who wants it to cover their tracks (if any of that was even true...which i dunno). They will get at least 6-10K from the name. I agree it's a nice name and that it could possibly have went that high. 4th quarter results alone would have driven the price up but we'll continue to see this growth going into '04 especially on auction sites as larger companies start to wake up.

 

[domainswithtrafik]

clemonzguy, how does pool work exactly in this case? If the top bidder defaults and does not pay isn't the next person in line...the one that put in the extra 0 and mistakenly bid 60K for it?

Then he will default..so then it will go back to the top bidder again to purchase at that next highest bid? But since he already defaulted, does that mean it will go to the next highest bidder that bid 19K for it?

I'm confused..how does it work? :huh: