How can Domainers help each other more?

[ksinclair]

Obama is an inspirational guy. He tries to being everyone together, and so along those lines, I am wondering how all of us on DnForum can help each other more.

I know people want deals but sometimes it gets too intense. We all want to make money at this, and doing development seems to be the key.

The more we can help each other the better. And developing one guys domain does not hurt the prospects of someone else's domain; so we can help each other without any risk.

Kevin

 

[Ehsan]

develop a unique website and all domainers park all there domains onto that site and may be make and share profit from that site may be it will tun into a billion dollar company ,

thats my crazy idea ! 2sec thinking

 

[Johnn]

Good idea!

I have domainersites dot com. May be we can do something!

 

[Theo]

Have a domainers' calendar with ladies in bikinis.

 

[Biggie]

Obama is an inspirational guy. He tries to being everyone together, and so along those lines, I am wondering how all of us on DnForum can help each other more.

I know people want deals but sometimes it gets too intense. We all want to make money at this, and doing development seems to be the key.

The more we can help each other the better. And developing one guys domain does not hurt the prospects of someone else's domain; so we can help each other without any risk.

Kevin

Hi Kevin

Glad you have been touched by the movement!


imo, we do a good job already, in our efforts to help one another.

the key when seeking help is asking the right question

a question that is presented in such a way, that it draws memories of your experiences so vividly..that it makes you share willingly.

helping, but not looking for cost or fee, where the only return you seek for giving that knowledge, is that the receiver takes it and turns it over.

i think we also help others by encouraging them to be professional, this has the most profound effect on one's business, as it delivers return customers.


it's difficult to help others when at he same time you have to discipline some who are disruptive or misdirect the original content of the thread.

it's also difficult and a waste of resources trying to help those who have their minds fixed or are stuck on stupid.

more are willing to just post a link to one of the regularly posted websites for reference, than explain in depth or give up their secrets.

i'm all for helping and sharing info, but not doing any spoon-feeding to newborns.
those who don't want to read first, and form questions based on what they don't understand.

it gets tiring to see "whats the best parking service" question get asked twice every month for the last 16 months.

finally, people have to have an open mind when they want help, some only want positive responses and don't want to hear the truth.

imo...

 

[Sonny Banks]

Hi Kevin

Glad you have been touched by the movement!


imo, we do a good job already, in our efforts to help one another.

the key when seeking help is asking the right question

a question that is presented in such a way, that it draws memories of your experiences so vividly..that it makes you share willingly.

helping, but not looking for cost or fee, where the only return you seek for giving that knowledge, is that the receiver takes it and turns it over.

i think we also help others by encouraging them to be professional, this has the most profound effect on one's business, as it delivers return customers.


it's difficult to help others when at he same time you have to discipline some who are disruptive or misdirect the original content of the thread.

it's also difficult and a waste of resources trying to help those who have their minds fixed or are stuck on stupid.

more are willing to just post a link to one of the regularly posted websites for reference, than explain in depth or give up their secrets.

i'm all for helping and sharing info, but not doing any spoon-feeding to newborns.
those who don't want to read first, and form questions based on what they don't understand.

it gets tiring to see "whats the best parking service" question get asked twice every month for the last 16 months.

finally, people have to have an open mind when they want help, some only want positive responses and don't want to hear the truth.

imo...

Great words!

 

[Theo]

Oh jeez, Don, you just had to edit my post didn't you. It was a compliment towards Raider.

 

[Sonny Banks]

I know how all of us on DnForum can help each other more.
Send me some money.

 

[Biggie]

Theo

it would serve you well to show respect for others by not mentioning them in such a way.
instead of contributing in a postive way, you choose to poke fun at others, by assuming they may not take offense

and if they do, then you succeed in agitating another confrontation.

this will not continue to be tolorated here.

please adjust and rearrange...

 

[Theo]

Don, you can twist it all you want, but you acted on impulse based on a personal bias and/or sensitivity on the subject. I wasn't been disrespectful but I think that I will now debate you on the subject, since you seem to enjoy introducing fuel to a dead fire. In fact, you now get members wonder what I could have possibly said - when in fact I didn't say anything at all that could be misconstrued nor was it disrespectful towards anyone.

See Don, what this industry needs is less stuck up people. My post was jovial and at any rate, much less harmful than the usual load of negative exchanges that can be found in the Politics subforum.

Adjustment and rearrangement is what chiropractors do. I need to see your license

 

[Biggie]

Don, you can twist it all you want, but you acted on impulse based on a personal bias and/or sensitivity on the subject. I wasn't been disrespectful but I think that I will now debate you on the subject, since you seem to enjoy introducing fuel to a dead fire. In fact, you now get members wonder what I could have possibly said - when in fact I didn't say anything at all that could be misconstrued nor was it disrespectful towards anyone.

See Don, what this industry needs is less stuck up people. My post was jovial and at any rate, much less harmful than the usual load of negative exchanges that can be found in the Politics subforum.

Adjustment and rearrangement is what chiropractors do. I need to see your license

first, let me apologize for having to use this thread to set you straight.

other than using your first name, there is nothing personal about it.

yes, there is sensitivity, because as a moderator, i should be or try to be sentive to the concerns of all.

the member's name who you choose to add to the end of the sentence in your first post, may not like being characterized as a calender girl.

you take liberty to the extreme by assumption. when in fact it may lead to confrontation.

that scenerio can be eliminated from the equation by not even mentioning any member in such way.

that's the point, and the issue which you either can't understand or rufuse to acknowledge...either way it doesn't serve you well.

 

[Theo]

OK Don, you win. Have a good one.

 

[Gerry]

Well, it seemed to get on and off track quickly.

How can Domainers help each other more?

Not sure how to interpret that. There are sections for nearly every thing regarding registration, parking, learning, etc. I do think newbies to the field should spend more time in those areas rather than take the lazy way and just ask the same question a million times. Perhaps just nudging over to that section.

As for other issues, I find that experience gained and earned should be passed on. Recently there were specific questions regarding Joomla. I related that I would be glad to look at it and see if I could figure out the problem. I could not. But the point is I tried. That I am sure will carry a of weight in the future.

We seem to spend a great deal of time on spats and controversy. Take a portion of that time for serious discussion and assistance to others.

Trust me, it is not hard.

 

[ksinclair]

Interesting that this thread, with such good intentions, got off track so quickly. Thank you Doc Com for getting us back on topic.

What if we tried to do some of these things:

1) Post positive comments in the public threads, but concerns/complaints in private PM.

2) Respect the subject of the thread-starter. If you have something off topic to say,
just start your own thread. I think that would be respectful.

3) Dont lowball people. A bid can be anything, even $1 if the seller does not put a
minimum bid - I dont mind that. But sometimes there are aggressive and mean
comments, especially in PM. Why do that? Why dont we help each other more?

4) Give realistic appraisals. Ocassionally someone lowballs an appraisal, its obvious.
Mabye they hope to get the domain cheap later. I dont see the purpose of doing that.
The domainers with lots of money should not unduly pressure the ones who are not
so fortunate. There are plenty of domains to go around. I dont know why I even
try to buy more; I have so many already that I never have time to dev.

5) Improve the Parking Problem. Parking for many pays very poorly, and a parked domain
generally does not rise in page rank. how can we solve that? This helps every
domainer no matter how small.

6) Improve the portfolio management problem - how can a person with 1,000 or more
domains find a lander that he can manage for all his domains and it also grows in
page rank; no penalty from google. We benefit but so would users.

7) Improve the Retail Sales Problem; how can we increase retail domains sales instead
selling to each other all the time. The auctions do not seem to increase end user
sales much. One good end user sale can equal quite a few forum-type of sales.

I am sure there are more things we can do.

Kevin

 

[theinvestor]

I hate to be negative about this topic but...in all honesty...domainers do not like to help others. They like to keep the secrets to themselves. I think most of us know if we try to contact a domainer outside a forum, they can be quite rude.

This is my experience...maybe i'm wrong.

 

[ksinclair]

I have seen that and I dont get it. Almost always one domain does not overlap or affect someone elses domain. The internet is so huge.

You could tell everything you know to a fellow domainer and chances are it would not hurt your traffic at all; in fact it should help you, as the person you help might give you some links, or even some helpful advice.

On many of my domain sales I try to give an extra domain. It builds good will and I cant afford right now to pay for all my renewals; so why let them expire?

Kevin

 

[Gerry]

Kevin,

All your intentions you posted above are good but that requires massive cooperation and massive time that many are not willing to put forth.

But the cooperation part can start with one thread at a time.

There are several instances where if you look on the forum right now, experience domainers or ones that have been here a while are asking for help or assistance and many are answering.

That in itself is pretty cool. You can't force anyone to do anything so doing it on their own accord is great.

I do much of the same in the form of PM's. People are very sensitive about revealing too much or disclosing a name or project they are working on. And I don't blame them one bit. Offering complete trust and secrecy is one thing but maintaining that trust is, as they say, priceless.

 

[Raider]

first, let me apologize for having to use this thread to set you straight.

other than using your first name, there is nothing personal about it.

yes, there is sensitivity, because as a moderator, i should be or try to be sentive to the concerns of all.

the member's name who you choose to add to the end of the sentence in your first post, may not like being characterized as a calender girl.

you take liberty to the extreme by assumption. when in fact it may lead to confrontation.

that scenerio can be eliminated from the equation by not even mentioning any member in such way.

that's the point, and the issue which you either can't understand or rufuse to acknowledge...either way it doesn't serve you well.

I greatly appreciate your concern Biggedon, really... For quite sometime I didn't think anyone here cared.. It's refreshing to see that someone does, especially from the management level... Thank you for being so considerate.

As for Acro, We don't agree on very much in the Political section, but he's one of the few people on this Forum I can disagree with strongly without it turning personal or offensive. I don't know what he posted, but I doubt it was mean spirited or offensive.... Theo is one of my fav's here on DNF. :yes:

:focus:

5) Improve the Parking Problem. Parking for many pays very poorly, and a parked domain generally does not rise in page rank. how can we solve that? This helps every domainer no matter how small.

You know what I would like to see on this Forum? I'd like to see a list of members who have expertise in one particular area of domaining...

I need help with SEO and don't know who the most qualified members on this forum are. Many don't have the experience but end giving advice anyway, which ends up wasting a lot of members time and effort.

 

[domaingenius]

develop a unique website and all domainers park all there domains onto that site and may be make and share profit from that site may be it will tun into a billion dollar company ,

thats my crazy idea ! 2sec thinking

Yes a good idea. Hard part will be the logistics of an agreement
between all parties. Mind you bit like a parking company
without the parking company !

DG

You know what I would like to see on this Forum? I'd like to see a list of members who have expertise in one particular area of domaining...

Yes thats another good idea. Could make a business out of it feeding
off domainers . When you see my Response to a recent UDRP
let me know if anyone wants me to draft their Responses. Response sent
today, took 1 full day roughly to draft and correct etc etc, 9 exhibits.

DG

 

[Bill Roy]

Domaining has become one of the most conservative industries in my opinion. Rarely do domainers help or co-operate with one another, although I do note that the Exclusive Domain Consulting Group here may well be an exception - I am not a member and therefore the success or otherwise of the group I cannot comment on.

Generally help between domainers is given when help is requested to explain an aspect of domaining. Here though I have to agree with Biggendon that it can become very irksome when the same question is posted by domaining newcomers who have not even bothered to take the time to read the library of numerous posts explaining the point which they ask.

I personally would love to see more co-operation and help between domainers, but I doubt it will occur in any great scale, it is the nature of the beast that the domaining industry has developed into that makes co-operation and help something that is rare in this business. The industry is not segmented into guilds but has maintained to a greater degree of individualism, this is a pity because it has hampered the opportunities for mutual benefit. I personally have had to approach a VC consortium rather than other members of the industry for development, my previous attempts at co-opertion with the few members of the industry that I have tried have unfortunately proved pointless and costly. This though in itself, bringing in external businesses to the domaining environment, is not in itself a bad thing as they are rarely so opinionated in their thoughts, the bottom line being simply can a project make money and if so how much.

One specific area where domainers could really help themselves is to form their own parking company with the parking results and payment system being totally open to its members. This has though been spouted about many times both on this forum and other forums, such a company though is yet to see the light of day.

The pie of which all members here want to claim their own slice is huge, unfortunately though we all remain individuals and miss many an opportunity for mutual benefit by remaining so.