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So, lets say for an example, they try to charge google.com $500,000 to renew google.com or any big company like that with a TM.

If that company refuses to renew for the outrageous price and lose the domain, can't they just file tm infringement and get the domain back?

If pricing like this goes through, they're crazy and would probably have to get their assistants to start their cars up for them a while. That's how mad and angry thousands and thousands of people will be.
 
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EVERYONE be sure to CONFIRM your emails you send to ICANN. After submitting an email to them, you MUST go to your inbox and click on the automated email sent back to you. You then have to click on the link provided and CONFIRM the message you sent.

I URDGE everyone to send them a response to this. Many great points were brought up in this thread. Let them know how you feel!
 

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The day of the ccTLD's is coming ever closer, ICANN are acting like a bunch of lemmings and committing suicide. No longer is it a case of ccTLD's may be worth more in 5-10 years time, thanks to ICANN it is much sooner than that!

Eight months ago I was being rediculed for investing in ccTLD's, now I have numerous congratulatory emails this week alone for the sale of College.St, the domain market has and is changing, the strange thing is though is that it is mainly because of idiotic plans laid out by ICANN that it is changing so rapidly (even faster than I thought it would - and that is saying something).

totally agree with you
 

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Again, the deadline for public comment is 5:00pm PDT on Monday. If you have not voiced your opinion, be prepared to accept the crumbs left on the table.

You are strongly encouraged to educate yourself at http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-28jul06.htm and email your comments to these three addresses - [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]. Click the link in each of the three verification emails you'll receive.

This is serious, affects your future, and is happening with very little public input.

BidNo
 

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The most telling words in the document are:

...........'The per name transaction fees, however, are subject to adjustment depending on the average price of domain name registrations during each calendar quarter throughout the term of the agreement. Each of the proposed new agreements provide only for a transactional fee component payable to ICANN, with no fixed fee. This is a markedly different approach from the fixed fee established in the 2001 .BIZ and .INFO registry agreements, and 2003 .ORG registry agreement, and is intended to appropriately scale the fees payable by each registry to ICANN to the success or decline of the registry business.'

This clearly allows for ICANN to increase 'its' registration fee as 'it' sees fit.

Already a built in increase in fees in the document allows for a $0.95 increase in ICANN fees over the next 6 years (that is 380% increase in 6 years - I think the current ICANN fee is $0.25 per registration). The question is what does ICANN plan to do with all this extra revenue, this is not clearly stated anywhere in the proposal document!

How long will it be before ICANN enters International languages in the same way 'Mafia' is an internationally recognized word for organized corruption and crime?
 

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How long will it be before ICANN enters International languages in the same way 'Mafia' is an internationally recognized word for organized corruption and crime?

Hi,
Couldn't agree more. :whoo:
 

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Parked.com has emailed all users this...

They did all the work just pick one and send it in


Dear Dan Anderson,
ICANN is about to renew the .org, .biz, and .info registry contracts
with a HUGE loophole to allow each registry to charge different
scaled pricing on a per-domain basis and to provide each registry
with a presumptive perpetual monopoly. This means your best domains
may very soon cost you thousands (or more) per year in renewal fees.
We need your help to halt the approval of these contract proposals.
Everyone who owns a domain and cares about its value should post a
comment TODAY to:

http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-28jul06.htm

Its easy: Just email your comments to each of the three following
email addresses:

[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected]
and then approve the email links they respond with.

The comment period will remain open until 5:00 PM PDT, August 28,
2006. THAT'S TODAY! The comments will be submitted to the ICANN Board
of Directors for the Board to consider at its meeting on September 13,
2006.

If Registries can set "market prices" for each .biz, .info, .org
domain name (ie. $500 or $1 million per year for cars.org or
Google.org etc.. ), then ICANN will have to provide Verisign the same
terms for .com and .net in 2012. ALL of your businesses could be in
serious jeopardy. So we all have a vested interest in this not
happening.

If you CHOOSE to remain silent the fallout will jeopardize all of our
futures. We need your help. Please take a moment to read the comments
others have posted, then create one of your own and mail it off.
http://forum.icann.org/lists/biz-tld-agreement
http://forum.icann.org/lists/info-tld-agreement
http://forum.icann.org/lists/org-tld-agreement


Below are sample letters that were forwarded to us. They give some
good ideas and the consequences of staying silent. Please remember
that the deadline is 5pm today.

THANK YOU!!




The Parked.com Team


Sample #1

To the ICANN Board,

The proposed TLD Registry Renewal Contracts for .info, .biz, and .org
domains have a seriously flawed component whereby a Registry will be
able to set arbitrary rates without price caps at whatever the market
will bear. This will create a financially devastating impact on the
business models of millions of domain and web site owners worldwide.

The impact will be especially damaging to .org and .info domain
owners and site operators who for the most part use .org and .info
domains for non-profit, charitable organizations, and educational
purposes.

Hundreds of billions of dollars have been invested into the core
domain name infrastructure of the Internet with the secured
expectation that acquiring, owning and maintaining domains would
always be affordable and make economic sense for a long term
investment.

To enable and facilitate a way for registry's to financially exploit
and gouge the marketplace would not only be a business tragedy, but
it goes against the grain of all the base principles upon which the
Internet was conceived. It would certainly deter new entrepreneurs
from considering venturing onto the Net if there is no certainty what
their site's URL location will be costing them each year they renew.
And the vast multitude of current domain owners and web site
operators would close up shop if their costs of doing business
skyrocketed on every domain they own.

Even more importantly, this flaw would give an unfair economic
advantage to individuals and corporations who have substantial
capital resources who could outbid less fortunate and startup
entrepreneurs with limited capital.

And inevitably, there would be a tidal wave of costly and time
consuming lawsuits and litigation that ICANN itself would have to
deal with from the millions of impacted domain owners.

Thus, I respectfully request that you reconsider and reconstruct the
contracts and remove this no price caps clause completely.


Sample #2

I wish to express my profound concern that the proposed registry
agreements for .org, .biz and .info do not prohibit predatory price
rises by the registries. ICANN was entirely right to object to
Verisign's SiteFinder service, and for all the right reasons, but
appears not to have learned the obvious lesson: that registries can
be motivated to do things that are not in registrants' interests.
Given that reality, removal of price caps is likely to result in
anticompetitive practices that seriously impact internet
stakeholders. I hope that you will reconsider this aspect of the
agreements.


Sample #3

In permitting even the theoretical hiking of fees for domain name
renewals, ICANN is threatening nothing less than the democratic
nature of the Internet. As an individual, I have been using a .org
domain for some years for a political and social blog website. The
relatively low cost of renewing my domain name and hosting the site
is extremely important to me. Operating such a site now feels like an
extension of my free speech rights! I am counting on you not to do
anything to erode that. Thank you.


Sample #4

As a small business operator, with substantial goodwill invested in
our domain names, I wish to express my strong opposition to the
lifting of price controls. One of ICANN's core principles is the
encouragement of competition at both the registry and registrar
levels. Such competition is incompatible with the kind of
unrestricted monopoly that these proposed agreements would create. I
therefore urge the board to reject the agreements.
 

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droplister said:
If Registries can set "market prices" for each .biz, .info, .org
domain name (ie. $500 or $1 million per year for cars.org or
Google.org etc.. ), then ICANN will have to provide Verisign the same
terms for .com and .net in 2012
. ALL of your businesses could be in
serious jeopardy.
woah :jaw: - if that's legit, everyone on this forum should have sent a comment.
 

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If registrars can charge what they want, isn't it equally possibly they will all fight for the lowest price, like many already are, (registerfly: $2 .infos, $5 .nets - resellerclub: $1.50 .info, $1 .org etc)? Isn't it equally possible that we could see the lowest prices and the best deals yet? Or am I just being naive?
 

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If registrars can charge what they want, isn't it equally possibly they will all fight for the lowest price, like many already are, (registerfly: $2 .infos, $5 .nets - resellerclub: $1.50 .info, $1 .org etc)? Isn't it equally possible that we could see the lowest prices and the best deals yet? Or am I just being naive?

Price caps are good. Caps impose maximum limits. If they want to charge less, good, but in no way should variable pricing per domain name be permitted like charging me $50/yr for SKDomains.com and $300/yr for FCU.info
 

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CALL ICANN and give them a piece of your mind!

+1.310.823.9358 ask to speak to "Patrick Jones".

He is the person in charge of overseeing these new TLD proposals which grant full blown monopolistic, exortionary pricing power! This must be stopped!
 

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If registrars can charge what they want, isn't it equally possibly they will all fight for the lowest price, like many already are, (registerfly: $2 .infos, $5 .nets - resellerclub: $1.50 .info, $1 .org etc)? Isn't it equally possible that we could see the lowest prices and the best deals yet? Or am I just being naive?

You're confusing the Registrars with the Registry. Registrars like Godaddy and RegisterFly will continue to have to compete on price, but the Registry charges a wholesale price to these companies and *every* domain goes through them and there is only one Registry per TLD. So if for example Verisign gets to set individual prices without limit, there's nothing these Registrars can do to go much below that.
 

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Again, the deadline for public comment is 5:00pm PDT on Monday. If you have not voiced your opinion, be prepared to accept the crumbs left on the table.

You are strongly encouraged to educate yourself at http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-28jul06.htm and email your comments to these three addresses - [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]. Click the link in each of the three verification emails you'll receive.

This is serious, affects your future, and is happening with very little public input.

BidNo

It will change as all of these types of markets do, it's inevitable. I do stand to gain alot either way. Everytime the rug gets dusted that's the time I come in with the dustpan per/se and do my best at a clean sweep. As well I have alot invested in tld's and cctld's not under this reign.

The domain community is attracting all sorts these days for it's lucrative investment potential comparible to many underground and illegal business's. I would be very scared if I were one of the ones who take part in the decision to cost such people hundreds of thousands/millions per year.
 

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Org now has 604 total comments with 475 comments posted today. The only positive I saw was posted by Verisign with all other being in opposition. Thanks to everyone that contributed both publicly and privately. It would seem impossible for ICANN to ignore such a lopsided public response

Besides many domainers, sponsors that publicly went on record included GoDaddy, Parked.com and iREIT. Parked.com additionally notified all of their customers by email. Ron Jackson at DNJournal carried a special write-up. Others such as Sedo carried statements on their websites. There are likely others I've overlooked that should be added to this thread.

I think it's important for us to recognize and thank these businesses willing to carry the flag. And finally we all owe GK our thanks for alerting us to this silently ticking time bomb.

From this debacle everyone likely appreciates the need for someone to look out for our interests and who that someone is not. Look for some kind of a trade organization to arise from this attempted end-run and give serious consideration to joining.

Cheers,
BidNo
 
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