Indiana - sold - $50k

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[David G]

Realnames, Truthfully, both Roger and I have been honest about the facts. There is nothing being hidden. -=DCG=-

How do you know Roger does not know more or there is not more involved to the story since you and he have not been communicating much at all and had poor relations according to the obvious issues, large sum of money lost, and all the negative posts?

DCG seemingly backing-up or even defending Roger above in an odd twist, and the fact no criminal charges have ever been filed by either one of you after 6-mos makes this even more odd.

The fact you two appear to have little desire to pursue this with the Authorities is incredibly odd, IMO. If The Royal Canadian Mounted Police do not have a Fraud Division (which I doubt) I would certainly travel the short distance to the U.S. and file criminal charges in person with the FBI.

Personally, I would have done that immidiately, with no hesitation, and followed up the complaint constantly for such a large sum of money. This will be my past post on this odd situation.

 

[actnow]

I understand his limp is starting to go away! %+|

 

[A D]

Ok Good News!

Roger and I have come to an agreement and i am satisfied with this now.

I have agreed not to discuss the terms of the agreement but I can tell you Roger stepped up and did what was right.

Thanks to everyone that voiced their concern.

-=DCG=-

 

[actnow]

It appears that DCG has finally pressured Roger into an agreement.

 

[Anthony Ng]

Nice to hear that, and kudo to both parties!

 

[WebCat]

Ok Good News!

Roger and I have come to an agreement and i am satisfied with this now.

I have agreed not to discuss the terms of the agreement but I can tell you Roger stepped up and did what was right.

Thanks to everyone that voiced their concern.

-=DCG=-

Adam and Roger, I can only say that it is a tremendous relief that this has been settled. Despite the discomfort and awkwardness of it all, you have demonstrated to everyone how two important players in this industry CAN work out a dispute WITHOUT going to court or filing charges!

I am very happy and very proud of both of you! Despite the painful pathway to get here, you have provided a good example for the rest of us.

Congratulations!

 

[NameTower]

Good Stuff!

 

[GiantDomains]

Ok Good News!

Roger and I have come to an agreement and i am satisfied with this now.


-=DCG=-

Cool! That's good news for the community in general! Good going Roger.

 

[sasquatch]

Cool! That's good news for the community in general! Good going Roger.

"Good going Roger"?? If it was up to Roger alone he would have never "settle" this, as the last six months proved that fact over and over again. Roger was finally forced to "do good" after realizing that constant and everincreasing domainer bashing will finally catch up with his Co. and ultimately cost him more.

A lesson to be learned for sure.

 

[MediaHound]

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?p=380587#post380587

 

[actnow]

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?p=380587#post380587

I can not activate that thread.

 

[MediaHound]

It's been edited since I posted that.
It was the famous Afternic going going gone thread.
Earlier today, I had mentioned that he owes Adam money, and that his continued use of Adam's board to promote his services, is milking the cow.
Then he posted that he would stop if the moderators, or DCG, asked him to.
Then I saw DCG's post elsewhere that they made a deal just after the words between us, so I posted amends that I was happy to see that he did the right thing today. No harsh words were posted between us, but there was one post before mine that was a little harsher than mine, maybe some foul language in it, etc.

I appreciate everything this forum has done for me, so I was sticking up for Adam, getting his back as you might say.

 

[jberryhill]

"Good going Roger"??

If they are both happy, that's all that matters.

http://www.stanford.edu/~jmreed/pic...r Dick with Boston Accent and Dead Weasel.JPG

 

[Nodnarb]

Glad it's been worked out!

For the future, what kind of consumer protections can be built into the process? It seems like sellers can get screwed by buyers who don't use an Escrow service because the buyer can charge back his Paypal account. Buyers can get screwed when a stolen domain is paid for, even with an Escrow company in the middle. We can't always deal with people we know. What is the best advice to protect ourselves?

 

[freestyler]

Ok Good News!

Roger and I have come to an agreement and i am satisfied with this now.

I have agreed not to discuss the terms of the agreement but I can tell you Roger stepped up and did what was right.

Thanks to everyone that voiced their concern.

-=DCG=-

Yup thats good news.

P.S - from now on be more careful

 

[DomainQuay]

Great news - Congrats to you both!!!

Joni

 

[jberryhill]

For the future, what kind of consumer protections can be built into the process? It seems like sellers can get screwed by buyers who don't use an Escrow service because the buyer can charge back his Paypal account. Buyers can get screwed when a stolen domain is paid for, even with an Escrow company in the middle. We can't always deal with people we know. What is the best advice to protect ourselves?

First of all, you should read the terms of service VERY carefully. It is readily apparent from this thread that people who should know better do not know what is, and is not, provided at various websites as part of the agreed upon services. That is true for any commercial website.

Secondly, as already discussed in this thread, there are tools for checking out the history of a domain name.

Third, apply some basic common sense. Let's say you look at, for example, the archive.org history of a domain name example.com, and you see that it has been pointing at the home page of Example Industries in Oklahoma for the better part of a decade prior to a few months ago. Then, you look at the whois data, and the registrant has a yahoo email address, a non-functional telephone number, an address in Azerbaijan, and the originating-IP of their emails to you come via an anonymous proxy or a server in Latvia. Do you think any of that might inspire you to ask a few questions?

Fourth, you could consider things like a time-structured transfer agreement, in which a neutral party holds the domain name for a period of time during which installment payments are made for the domain. You might consider a transfer agreement with an adequate indemnification clause There is an infinite variety of ways to structure a transaction to provide the parties with whatever protections they believe are appropriate.

But the most important thing is to use common sense. There are a lot of stolen domain names running around, and I often see people engaging in what amounts to fencing them out of willful ignorance tempered by greed.

 

[Nodnarb]

Secondly, as already discussed in this thread, there are tools for checking out the history of a domain name.

All good points.

I use Archive.org, and check the whois records. But, one thing I've never found is a WHOIS history? Does such a service exist, similar to archive.org history?

 

[MediaHound]

yes it does!

http://www.whois.sc/whois-history

dnf appreciated for that one