Ismailax.com == Bloody Massacre Domain???

[Raider]

RG, I'm sure Faux News capitalized on the tragedy equally well. After all, they want to push their pro-NRA image whenever it suits them.

I don't think its capitalizing on any news organization, there simply doing there job and reporting the news. As for the NRA, well that's for another thread, I will tell you that I'm a member and proud of it.

 

[Theo]

It seems the registrant of ismailax dot com heard about it on Faux news. So much for blaming CNN.

 

[Gerry]

yes, because the media is clearly a moral authority.
besides, the news is SUPPOSED to report on all news.
As long as it is gone in good taste and objectively, these things should be reported on; capitalizing on a domain for the SOLE purpose of profit is not in good taste and is not doing good.

Just for clarification...you're quoting me paraphrasing someone else's statement in a similar thread.

 

[neopolus]

Well, seems that we all have a diferent view of the situation, but there are lots of people still making blood money from diferent sites, the amount of such sites online is growing by the "moment" with each term, phrase, event or anything related to a catastrophe, tragedy .. ect .. was the guy to blame because on his own words, "he heard the word and register it" .. can he be blame for the curiosity of a business that allows us to do so ??
He proclaims himself as a Profesional domainer, and to be honest the guy, may be one - he saw something that may drive traffic, got lucky and registered, because trust me - hundreds of people will have done the same, at the same time - why ? - Because there is no business like the domain business - that dude is going to be on the news more and more.. he may probably sell the domain, for a ton of cash, once the movie related to the tragedy is released in 2009 ( once the pain of a bleeding society goes away) .. brings back memories ..doesn't it ? September 11, 2001 ....

Any tragic event will bring the best and the worst of people, that is just the nature of anything in the world, there are people that will take advantage and there are people that will suffer with the tragedy until it happens again , somewhere else ..

My take he saw an opportunity , not even knowing what the hell he was registering and it caused a "internet storm" ... go figure ...

when is Britney having another baby ?? when bradgelina will be over ? because someone somewhere .. will be registering domains on that topic too...the difference is .. NOBODY CARES ...

There is no business, like domain business ...

- Neo

 

[Gerry]

I don't think its capitalizing on any news organization, there simply doing there job and reporting the news. As for the NRA, well that's for another thread, I will tell you that I'm a member and proud of it.

Anyone who wants to capitalize on anything should be buying high capacity magazines for handguns and rifles. Previous assault weapons ban sent AR15 30 round magazines through the roof at $125.00 a pop. With the recent events and already a revised weapons ban before the congress (which high capacity magazines in particular being mentioned) look for this to really fuel the issue and be passed without too much opposition now. No one is going to want to look insensitive with an upcoming election year.

I know all the arguments about guns don't kill people and all that, but this is the reality. Campaigns, upcoming elections, democratic congress, veto power. The new bill before congress is pretty weighted and does not provide many options to include ban on parts, semi auto shotguns, magazine clips, certain ammo, and more. Many types of ammo have already jumped by nearly 30% or more in anticipation of the ban and feeding the frenzy.

So if you want to make about 10 times your investment in about a year's time, buy gun magazines instead of domains or shift some of your money in that direction. I am not advocating that everyone do this if that is morally a guilt trip for you just as some are advocating they do not see anything wrong with domainers registering domains based on tragedies and horrific events and capitalizing on those events.

How do I know so much about this? I am a member of the NRA, I am a sharpshooter (targets), I own several pistols with high capacity magazines and I have a group of people that I shoot with. Most also in the medical profession. One is a rated 1000 yard expert currently off the circuit thanks to a divorce in progress, I own high powered rifles and semi-auto shotguns, I suck at skeet and clays, and I belong to two outdoor ranges and one indoor range. One of my shooting buddies is a former military sniper who has the most awesome AR15 tactical assault set ups I have every seen complete with halographic sites and scope. This past fall he purchased 250 30-round clips even before the elections in antipation of a democratic sweep and control of congress and the reviving of the assault weapons ban. I would say the value of his "magazine" portfolio has risen significantly.

What does this have to do with domains? Opportunistic and capitalizing on an event and it's after effect.

 

[Raider]

I suppose registering this pathetic slimeballs name, is not as bad as some of these other descriptive domains, if he did'nt do it, somebody else definately would. I'm not sure if the results showing are Overture or Google, which ever it is, I would hope they would block results to it, since both have such high morals against pornography.

Acro, He was going to hear the shooters name on any new station no matter what, since FOX does have the highest viewers on all of Cable news, this comes as no surprise.

Doc Com, This maybe off topic, but my husband was into practical shooting, Bianchi Cup and IPSC before that, he had the whole reloading thing going and just lost interest in it over time...Sometimes I carry a 9mm Sig in my purse to protect myself against the perverts, when you've been sexually assaulted and followed home late at night, your outlook on protecting yourself drastically changes....And I doubt your friend bought those magazines to resell them, sounds more like stocking up before the big quake.

 

[companyone]

Hi,

I was going to donate about $50 to whatever "main fund" that came out to help everyone effected by this. I decided the best thing I could do is register domains I thought that some prople would go after for their own personal gain.

I ended up registering 14 domains (more than I was going to) all related to this subject. I have all "re-diirected" to:

http://www.vt.edu/tragedy/memorial_fund.php


I emailed the webmaster of the site and told him about it and I am going to just give him the "sub-account" they are all in. This way he can do what he wants with them and then VT will be in total control of them.

He has not contacted me back yet.

I thought this was an ok idea...now they are out of the hands of anyone that might have used them for their own gain or worse someone "tricking" people to donate to a fake site or something.


Peace,
Dan

BTW: already had a couple emails from people wanting to buy two of them...I turned them down. They were not from VT or a creditable charity.

 

[Gerry]

Doc Com, This maybe off topic, but my husband was into practical shooting, Bianchi Cup and IPSC before that, he had the whole reloading thing going and just lost interest in it over time...Sometimes I carry a 9mm Sig in my purse to protect myself against the perverts, when you've been sexually assaulted and followed home late at night, your outlook on protecting yourself drastically changes....And I doubt your friend bought those magazines to resell them, sounds more like stocking up before the big quake.

OFF TOPIC; Actually, purely for reselling. He was part of a group buy to get a price break at $9.00 each along with the purchasing of several thousands of rounds of Russian Ammo (whatever the legal limit is per person). He knows what he is doing and knows the market and is a very successful business person (VERY successful). He was trying to buy some years ago when the price was sky high. He's perfectly sane and rational. Entrepreneur...just like domainers.

ON TOPIC: Actually, I have gotten him interested in domains and utilizing them to his advantage. He's got one monster of a domain regged in 1996 that he uses for his business. I about flipped out when he told me what it is. He had no idea what he was sitting on and the money he could make by including Google Adsense on his site. He has had this name for so long with the same service I think he was still paying like $49.00 renewal fees and about $29.99 month hosting for his one and only site and domain. I showed him all the stats, PR, links into his site. He had no idea that his site was being used and referenced so heavy. (511 indexed links, #4 on google search for the word and keyword, PR7). It is also a prime example where OVT is not at all a reflection of the true worth or value in terms of the name. Very high end, exclusive high dollar clientel worldwide. Being as such, it will not be a highly searched term as most people simply can not afford it. So in some cases age does have its benefits.

OFF TOPIC: Sig Sauer is a sweet and not so cheap little piece. My buddy that did the 1000 yard competition did his own reloads. What a science that can be. Personally, I'm Ruger when it comes to handguns. Used to have Berettas and wonder why did I ever get rid of them. Otherwise Benelli, Franchi for shotguns and Savage and Mossburg rifles. Teaching my wife to handle them for the reasons you pointed out. Plus with me working nights at the moment. She is very safe and secure with our four dogs but she needs to know how to handle and respect the shotguns.

I do think a new gun ban will come into play along with heavy attention to the large capacity mags, especially for handguns now.

ON TOPIC: I am sure that new legislation will spawn a whole new crop of domain names. Every newsmaker does, as we are witnessing. I was just commenting on an appraisal for Imus the other day. I felt the domain was not worth much and the person seemed a little offended. I related that he was hot at the moment, but also potentially washed up and just a passing star. I used the example of Britany, then Anna Nicole, then Imus...each only lasted as long as the next big story to replace them. This was just a couple of days ago. Unfortunately, I was expecting another celebrity rather than a tragedy.

Hi,

I was going to donate about $50 to whatever "main fund" that came out to help everyone effected by this. I decided the best thing I could do is register domains I thought that some prople would go after for their own personal gain.

I ended up registering 14 domains (more than I was going to) all related to this subject. I have all "re-diirected" to:

http://www.vt.edu/tragedy/memorial_fund.php


I emailed the webmaster of the site and told him about it and I am going to just give him the "sub-account" they are all in. This way he can do what he wants with them and then VT will be in total control of them.

He has not contacted me back yet.

I thought this was an ok idea...now they are out of the hands of anyone that might have used them for their own gain or worse someone "tricking" people to donate to a fake site or something.


Peace,
Dan

BTW: already had a couple emails from people wanting to buy two of them...I turned them down. They were not from VT or a creditable charity.

WOW...very impressive. Where is the money going? I can help promote the heck out of this.

If you don't mind, pm me a list of names.

 

[GAMEFINEST]

what does ismail ax stand for?

 

[Theo]

Whatever was in that sicko's mind.

 

[companyone]

Hey Doc Com,

It was the only site I could find. Its the VT .edu site so it has to be a good place to donate to help.

I just know what it say's:

Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund

April 16, 2007, will be remembered as one of the darkest days in the history of the Virginia Tech community and the world beyond.

To remember and honor the victims of those tragic events, the university has established the Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund to aid in the healing process and generate financial support.

The fund will be used to cover expenses including but not limited to:

* Grief counseling
* Memorials
* Communication expenses
* Comfort expenses
* Incidental needs

In the wake of this tragedy, we are confident that Hokie Spirit will only grow stronger and more resilient. We thank you for your continued support.

http://www.vt.edu/tragedy/memorial_fund.php

Peace,
Dan

 

[Sarcle]

what does ismail ax stand for?

It means a movie of the week or a book titled after it. But we won't hear domainers complaining about that; just the domain and the registrant.

 

[Gerry]

Dan

Got it...missed the link. It is VT's official site as I was looking at their schedule awhile back to see if I could possibly get tickets to the Wake game seeing that it was impossible to get here.

PM sent.

 

[Duckinla]

Ismail Ax:

http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/ProphetIbrahim.htm

Islamic story that Ismail used his ax to take down idols.

 

[AlienGG]

yes, because the media is clearly a moral authority.
besides, the news is SUPPOSED to report on all news.
As long as it is gone in good taste and objectively, these things should be reported on; capitalizing on a domain for the SOLE purpose of profit is not in good taste and is not doing good.

News media report tragedies FOR PROFIT.

 

[Raider]

News media report tragedies FOR PROFIT.

And funeral homes and cemetaries bury people for profit, they provide a public service and do there job much like any news agency does when a tragedy occurs.

What public service is the tragic domainer providing when he tries to pawn off his domains on ebay?

 

[Sarcle]

And funeral homes and cemetaries bury people for profit, they provide a public service and do there job much like any news agency does when a tragedy occurs.

What public service is the tragic domainer providing when he tries to pawn off his domains on ebay?

Your analogy is totally off base. Show me a funeral home that parades their dead around on national tv and then has multi-billion dollar sponsors to hawk. A funeral home doesn't.

And what is your fascination with ebay? Who cares what someone TRIES to sell on ebay?

You're telling me you wouldn't take Jacktheripper.com or AlCapone.com if it was handed to you?

 

[AlienGG]

And funeral homes and cemetaries bury people for profit, they provide a public service and do there job much like any news agency does when a tragedy occurs.

What public service is the tragic domainer providing when he tries to pawn off his domains on ebay?

Different aspects same purpose. Funeral business makes great profit indeed. It could have been cheaper, way cheaper, if it's just to make a living.
Anything that is under the name of "public service" should NOT generate profit. They can, at most, generate enough to support themselves, just like a non-profit-org. News media, in fact, generate huge amount of profit from the events, and such profit goes into its owners' wallets for everything they want. None of the revenue goes to the victims or respective charities for cure of pain and prevention of such tragedy in the future.
News media and so on are, indeed, services for private parties.

 

[Duckinla]

And what is your fascination with ebay? Who cares what someone TRIES to sell on ebay?

You're telling me you wouldn't take Jacktheripper.com or AlCapone.com if it was handed to you?

I agree. Our outrage is temporary, brought on by shock. It will fade with time. It always does. Too bad.

 

[typist]

What public service is the tragic domainer providing when he tries to pawn off his domains on ebay?

Potentially - creating value, and thereby contributing to GDP growth. Economic growth is a fundamental condition for the provision of many public services.