Ismailax.com == Bloody Massacre Domain???

[Raider]

I'm sure these types of stories and blog articles will be all over the place. It will take time for us to recover. I think a "domainer trust fund" should be put in place and all domainers paypal $5 each to the fund, and then give it to the VT Fund in the name of the Domain Industry.

Great idea SC!, I'll start it off by pledging 20 times that, just to make up for the bottom-feeding-domainers that dont want to pay.

I like that name, BFD and "vulture-profiteering" where do you come up with these?

As for Ray and his domain ismailax, I really hope he follows through with it, I would commend him if he does.

 

[Theo]

Apparently this is the killer's ebay account.

It should be noted he bought 2 x gun magazines for one of the weapons in this transaction.

Some ebayer tried to sell some item he claimed was sold to him by the killer right here - ebay might have pulled it.

Oh and the killer's ebay user id has been registered in the .com

 

[Sarcle]

Apparently this is the killer's ebay account.

It should be noted he bought 2 x gun magazines for one of the weapons in this transaction.

Strange. Why would ebay remove the next transaction after it was already completed?

great transaction good ebay A++

Seller oneclickshooting( 14481Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,999)
Mar-23-07 11:53 150105080082

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150105080082

Think it was something illegal and they are protecting their asses?

 

[Theo]

Yes, it was more of the same. You can view it here.

You need to log into ebay first.

 

[Raider]

He sells Virginia Tech vs. Georgia tickets, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200058573157

And uses that money to fund his weapons?, this guy was a piece of **it!

 

[Theo]

Definitely a deranged person, if you watched the video footage he sent to the TV station. No normal person quotes Jesus and the Columbine killers as equals.

 

[Sarcle]

First off I'd hate to be those sellers right now. FBI is going to be all over your SHIT. Better stash the pot FAST.

Second, bet there is going to be a crack down on gun parts over night on ebay, and probably a lawsuit from the victims families directed at ebay.

 

[Raider]

The gun parts he bought are not illegal.........no lawsuit.

The only lawsuit I can see is against the State for failing to report his mental records to NICS.

 

[Duckinla]

The gun parts he bought are not illegal.........no lawsuit.

The absence of justification has not stopped lawsuits in the past. I'm sure there will be plenty of lawsuits to go around.

 

[Gerry]

I commented about this eBay story earlier on another forum and had been looking over some articles.

First off I'd hate to be those sellers right now. FBI is going to be all over your SHIT.

I would tend to guess that the FBI has been all over many "someone's" shit from the many domain registration reported, to the registars, to the parking companies, and possible review of all google accounts and redirects (from the ad bidders and their intent and sites).

If domainers, registrars, parking companies ever had the passing notion to clean up their act, I think now is an ideal time. I can not begin to imagine the microscope many will come under. Look for all federal agencies to step up and look at this from all angles, including the FTC and IRS.

All of this has brought wanted and desired coverage to the domain industry but in the worst case scenario imaginable. If you are selling on ebay or any other venue, I hope your taxes are in order. And a cautionary note...it may be a good idea to not post sales figures anymore or brag about sales if you are not reporting them.
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Only 20 of the many stories I saw and read today on the subject. None paint a very pleasant picture of the domain industry at present. I am confident there will be a tremendous amount of public demand for reform.

We claim it is our right. Yet some have no issue violating the rights of others in pursuit of their fight for their rights.

Some change may come slow. Others will come rapid.

It was just reported that Cho purchased all his magazines on eBay. How quickly do you think eBay will respond to the outcry of selling gun parts before they ban them?

With all the negative press on domain names (and eBay mentioned over and over), how soon do you see ebay pulling the plug on domain names? Possible scenario. eBay love for self and the profit margin will do whatever it takes to appease the masses and keep the cash cow fed.

Legitimate domainers will feel the impact from all of this. From the registars to the parking companies to the ad feeds to the way we conduct business. Look for a federal investigation to sweep in the domain industry into their investigation.

More domain names have been registered over this tragedy in such a short period than any other time in the history of the internet surpassing the Katrina regs.

Here are the 20 (of many articles) I read today:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07...hootings_1.html
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9710857-7.html
http://weblog.infoworld.com/zeroday...ers_tappin.html
http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.a...392371&nav=0zHF
http://www.cnbc.com/id/18229969
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/VATech/story?id=3060386
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20...346/1051/NEWS01
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/20...dy_registe.html
http://www.securecomputing.net.au/n...hing-scams.aspx
http://www.wired.com/culture/educat...4/vt_domainname
http://www.thewhir.com/
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/...181EDT1.article
http://scmagazine.com/us/news/artic...-phishing-scams
http://www.computing.co.uk/vnunet/n...s-brace-virgina
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=9042
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2....html?from=top5
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article...8&in_page_id=34
http://www.contracostatimes.com/living/ci_5693847
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/20..._of_virgin.html
http://www.roanoke.com/vtreactions/wb/113518
http://www.metimes.com/storyview.ph...18-070559-6758r

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Lets get real here. Shaming other domainers who register legal names does this industry harm. If the name is a legal name, such as a person's name or an event that happened or a sex name and you have different opinions, well that is tough, it is not against the law and that is the domain business.

With all the negative press...newspapers, magazines, blog, even prime time television...reporting on this, it is apparent that it is the domainers (legitimate season pros as well as newbies) who are shaming the industry.

Let's do get real here...many of us have shot our selves in the foot over this issue. Those of us who did not take a shot at the regging have had our feet shot out from under us.

Reports indicate a flood of domain name registration related to this incident never seen before and far surpassing the previous record of Katrina domains.

Do you not think that all the negative publicity is going to have an affect and effect on the domain industry as a whole?

It don't think it is about you or me or several other members on here. But I know I for one am damn glad I do not rely on domaining or PPC for a living.

If anyone ever thought ICANN was doing a shitty job at policing registrars and domaining in the past, I have a feeling in the very near future you will be hearing more and more about ICANN and the need to place tighter controls in place. Or a more serious look at a new form of regulations enacted or even a new regulatory agency (quite possibly under government control) thanks to the countless scams and fraudulent donor sites being set up with these domains.

And lets not overlook or understate something else here...ICANN's fleeing to set up it's headquarters in Switzerland to escape prosecution in the RegFly debacle and other matters. Way to hang in there ICANN.

And VeriSign does what? did what? has what affect?

I fear that this is out of our control now because it is out of control. For those that may think I am crying wolf then by all means bookmark these statements and re-visit this thread in a year.

Every major catastrophe lately has been followed up with a federally appointed commission which investigate all aspects to the act, the aftermath, and the problems associate with the matter. I have never seen so much press regarding domain names in all my years of being involved.

Not one word of it is good and not one word of it is false.
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[Sarcle]

Well here is the first sellers website.

elkridgess.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/elkridgess.com

Think 'ole Jeff Anderson is going to make the news here pretty soon. Don't know if he already has.

Second sellers website

oneclickshooting.com

Seems they have a whois privacy. Wonder if that's recent?

 

[Gerry]

The absence of justification has not stopped lawsuits in the past. I'm sure there will be plenty of lawsuits to go around.

So true. Civil suits...hard to defend against.

And the dumbasses that are registering the name of the shooter (like our small weenie friend).

Or the campus. NCAA is terribly anal about it's members not to mention the rights of the VT logo and images (yes, I have informed VT of my use and provided links to my usage).

eBay needs to place a temporary cease to any thing VT, imo. Take a look at all the homemade silkscreened shirts, logo items, stickers and knick knacks being sold. As quickly as these items hit, I am sure there is not one given permission to use any VT logos or images. Some are obviously so pitifully reproduced it is laughable.

That is why do not be surprised at all for IRS, FBI, FTC, and another agency to take note of all of this. If someone wants to talk about their rights just remember...you have the right to remain silent, you have the right to legal counsel...

I do believe there will be serious long range and long term consequences from all of this.

Oh, and did we forget we are going into an election year?

I think domaining will finally get what it has been wanting...the spotlight.

 

[Sarcle]

I think domaining will finally get what it has been wanting...the spotlight.

Domaining is getting the spotlight because the news is giving the family the respect or distance they asked for right now and they don't have anything else to report.

Hey to let you know, your sig logo doesn't have the link to the donation site.

Hopefully these sites haven't been reported and the news broke here first about the sellers websites. Domainers help find sellers websites. Positive spin? Probably not. DNF exclusive at 11.

 

[Raider]

Blaming the shooting supply stores that sold him the clips, is like blaming the gas station that sold him the gas that took him to school that day....or did he take a bus?, in that case blame the bus driver.

He could of bought extra clips when he bought the guns, if he did that, would the "clips" story be in the news? NO

 

[Sarcle]

Blaming the shooting supply stores that sold him the clips, is like blaming the gas station that sold him the gas that took him to school that day....or did he take a bus?, in that case the bus driver.

He could of bought extra clips when he bought the guns, if he did that, would the "clips" story be in the news? NO

I'm not blaming anyone. I haven't blamed anyone but the shooter since the beginning. But you better believe the news will rush and put the spotlight on them. Just like they have domains and everything else.

 

[Gerry]

Domaining is getting the spotlight because the news is giving the family the respect or distance they asked for right now and they don't have anything else to report.

Hey to let you know, your sig logo doesn't have the link to the donation site.

Hopefully these sites haven't been reported and the news broke here first about the sellers websites. Domainers help find sellers websites. Positive spin? Probably not. DNF exclusive at 11.

Only one link allowed. Been slapped already :brick: for having too many.

Domaining got thrust in the spotlight the day of the incident. It remains in the spotlight.

As Acroplex reported, someone has already rushed to reg the shooter's eBay user name as a dot com. Acroplex may have found that on his own. Or it may have been reported.

Many of the links I posted are from the UK and even Australia. For some, their 15 seconds of fame may get them a 15 minute deposition.

I wish we could say "look what the newbies did" but as we know that is not the case in each instance.

I am in no way shape or form challenging free speech and all that is righteous...I won't have to. The general public, federal agencies, and politicians will.

 

[Raider]

I'm not blaming anyone. I haven't blamed anyone but the shooter since the beginning. But you better believe the news will rush and put the spotlight on them. Just like they have domains and everything else.

I'm not saying you are Sarcle, I would of quoted you if I was, I'm just reading the stories and theirs a lot of finger pointing towards the vendors, and your right, the news is and will continue to make something more out of it.

 

[Sarcle]

Only one link allowed. Been slapped already :brick: for having too many.

What I've never read that rule. I thought you could have up to three. Sorry for digressing but if they hit you for putting a link to the donation site that would be down right despicable.

I'm not saying you are Sarcle

It's cool. There's just been so many quotes and misquotes wanted to be sure.


Maybe we should email the sellers sites to the news orgs, give them something else to report for awhile.

 

[Raider]

And Ilgar puts it back up again....Think must be 4th time and he still doesnt get it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Virginia-Tech-S...ryZ11153QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Gerry]

And Ilgar puts it back up again....Think must be 4th time and he still doesnt get it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Virginia-Tech-S...ryZ11153QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think you have a thing for Ilgar. Or is it just those beautiful ads and the product pitch?