Italy.net sells for $52000

[Find A Date]

Great domain! good price considering the economic climate.

IMO, in a healthier economy, It it would sell for twice that.

Congrats to both seller and buyer

Robert

 

[NetworkMsia]

congrats on the great sale

 

[adonivideo]

Everyone in 'italy' uses Italia, so italia.net is the money name in that geo IMO, but 50K range is nice, italy.com a 1M+ .com for sure, so 10% to 33% for the .net, 100K low end of retail on a 1M .com valuation, so 50K is decent reseller buy price, but end user should be 100K+ range, now the italia.net has a better value inside italy, what's the CC for italy, it? so italia.cc is the top GEO I would think, cc being the country code for Italy.

 

[eDomaining]

Everyone in 'italy' uses Italia, so italia.net is the money name in that geo IMO, but 50K range is nice, italy.com a 1M+ .com for sure, so 10% to 33% for the .net, 100K low end of retail on a 1M .com valuation, so 50K is decent reseller buy price, but end user should be 100K+ range, now the italia.net has a better value inside italy, what's the CC for italy, it? so italia.cc is the top GEO I would think, cc being the country code for Italy.

You have to consider that there are more Italians living abroad than domestically, so Italy is searched more than Italia. You can see this with Italy.com outperforming Italia.com. As far the (cc) for Italy it is .it, here you have Italy.it forwarded Italia.it which is owned by the ministry of tourism (gov). Not to discredit Italia.net which in it's own right probably gets a decent amount of traffic, but the sale of Italy.net is spot on. Good looking site by the way.

Congrats to buyer and seller!

Contrary to popular belief .NET is not dead..

 

[George Verdugo]

nice !!!! suave !!!

 

[adonivideo]

You have to consider that there are more Italians living abroad than domestically, so Italy is searched more than Italia.

The key to 'geo' domains is you want to dominate a geo area, in italy italia is searched for 12M times a month, and Italy is under 1M, so it's 13 to 1 in Italy that Italians are looking for Italia, so to dominate the GEO market in Italy, the Italia.it is the king, and Italia.com then Italia.net

Now you want global traffic, then you start to look at Italy

Now you get a GEO keyword for sub domain SEO work

whateverinitalian.italia.it/.com/.net will pop for GEO product or service searches

so the .net is third place for Italia and the Italy is like 6th place, if you are using a GEO for the proper use, GEO portal

Italia.it is the king here, and then the .com then the .net

Italy.net would be 6th choice if a company is in Italy and wants to dominate searches for Italy inside Italy

Now you want to have tourists looking for you, then you go for what people outside Italy are doing

If you are a business inside Italy, you want Italia traffic most of the time

now global searches for Italia versus Italy, Italia is 16M and Italy is 9M

So Italia has Italy almost 2 to 1

This info is inside google and yeah, I'm a SEM/SEO/GEO guru, LOL

italia.it is the winner and italia.net is the pick over italy.net

but it's a nice domain and definitely worth the 50K it went for

But no way is italy.net worth more than italia.net or italia.com or italia.it

But opinions are opinions, I'm just using the figures dudes that make a living doing SEM and SEO use, and yeah, I make my living in both and GEO's are the tool we use to manipulate SE's all day long.

Just use the traffic estimators inside google and you'll see, Italia is the bigger searched for keyword, so that means more eyeballs

So depending on what the company wants, more traffic, or less, Italia wins hands down

16M to 9m it isn't even close

 

[eDomaining]

too much emphasis on google.. need to look at big picture

chasing white rabbits

 

[adonivideo]

ignore the biggest net company in the world

you said more people search italy

false

google has the stats

it's Italia over Italy by almost 2 to 1

Yeah ignore google

LOL

that was funny

 

[eDomaining]

just recently there was a major stats changes on google adwords keyword tool..

if you are basing it solely on GAKT stats without further analysis, then you are setting your self up to fail..

Is Google AdWords Keyword Tool Now More Accurate?

 

[adonivideo]

You stated more people search for italy over italia, the fact is italia is 2 to 1 almost and the place to look is google

I've been having international clients buy Italiakeyword.tld for years and they buy Italy too, to dominate whatever it is they do for anyone searching in Italy for their keyword, and they all understand, no one in Italy looks for Italy, to do business in Italy you use Italia and you cover your ass with Italy for dumb english speaking people looking for what you do or sell in Italy with Italy instead of Italia

Also, you're missing the whole point of Geo's, the subdomains they pop

hotels.geo.tld
restaurants.geo.tld
bars.geo.tld
doctors.geo.tld
lawyers.geo.tld

so natural geo's like Italy and Italia are used as portals for a plethora of subdomains, that's what SEO is about, control of a keyword so you can create endless natural sub domains

Now if you want a GEO portal, which the buyer of Italy.com/net/org etc is after, then you got to realize

Italia.it/italia.com/italia.net is the top GEO's for Italy

A. no one in Italy looks for Italy and inside Italy you want to setup Italian words in the subdomain categories to pop the search engines

So whatever you say hotels, restaurants, bars, doctors, lawyers, etc in italian are the subdomains for SEO work on a Geo for Italy and Italia.it is the top Geo for that work

Now you want to use Italy.net to do what?

Target english speaking tourists looking for bars in Italy?

Ok

Yet the huge amount of traffic is from Italians looking for how you say bars and with Italia

For an english speaking area GEO, the .net is 2nd place, for Italy, Italia.cc is number one, then italia.com/net/org

The majority of searches world wide will be Italia since more people LIVE in Italy (Italia) than there are tourists looking for stuff in Italy using English

Why do you think italy.net went for only 50K?

it's the wrong GEO dude.

LOL

who is going to develop a GEO portal for Italy, using italy, when the people in Italy call it Italia?

Ok, you develop italy.net for what, english speaking tourists?

Fine, you are missing most of the eyeballs

in 5 years italy.net will be a minor traffic site like it is now for a GEO portal 2M alexa, and Italia.it will be a major traffic site with 100K range Alexa

I know you don't believe google stats and you don't believe alexa's

LOL

facts, you said italy is searched for more than italia, I said google stats shows you're wrong italia is the keyword being searched for

now you can look at alexa

italia.it 100K range
italia.com 1.6M
italy.com 1.8M

so google stats validate what I said, and alexa validates what i said

Italia.it is the top dog and in .com italia out does italy

You sell stuff in Italy with italia not italy

and if you think a GEO shouldn't appeal to the people living in the GEO area, then you don't understand what GEO development is about

done with this thread

your argument has nothing in facts, you say stuff that is statistically wrong

then you say well google is wrong, now alexa backs up google, so alexa is wrong

wrong

ITALIA is the top dog in that GEO race

yeah italy.com and .net are ok, but for what

ITALIA is the right word for GEO development portals IN Italy and more people IN ITALY will look for Italia than outside will look for ITALY as google and alexa proves

 

[eDomaining]

You're missing the point.. it's not about geo

the bottom line is - there has never been a recorded sale of Italia, in any extension, greater than Italy

to say Italia .net .it should or could have more value than Italy.net is completely speculative and baseless.

 

[adonivideo]

dude I GET PAID TO DO APPRAISALS on domains, I get paid to buy and sell domains for clients, I get paid as you know for SEO and I get paid to manage large SEM accounts (ppc).

So my expertise is what says Italia is a more valuable keyword than Italy to an end user

It's not speculation, it's an expert opinion, and I showed you why Italia should outdraw italy all day long and you refuse to accept the facts

You said due to more Italians living abroad more look for Italy now than Italia, WRONG

Now you say my views are baseless?

Wrong, your view is based on your opinion, my statements are based on my experience in helping clients get Italia and Italy when they do SEO work to reach a global market, anyway, Italia is the better keyword to get traffic IN Italy, since no one in Italy is looking for Italy, they look for Italia, do the numbers at Google, look at Italy searches it way more for Italia inside Italy, so if you want to do business in ITALY you better use Italia not Italy.

Now you are arguing well you know there's more people outside Italy looking for italy, wrong, the demand inside italy trumps Italy as the keyword, ITALIA rules Italy and it's searched for more globally

Now the whole point of owning a GEO is to business IN THAT MARKET, you really want to argue Italy is better to do business IN ITALY?

Wrong, what was the stats above I quoted inside Italy like 13 to 1, or something

You're not gonna have a major GEO for Italy using Italy

Italians don't call Italy, Italy it is ITALIA

So who is the market then for Italy.net, it's not people inside Italy

And the GEO demand for anything inside Italy is going to be connected to Italia

Now Italy is a decent country level keyword geo, but it's not the real GEO, Italia is

So italia and .it is how you do most business in Italy

So my whole statement was Italia was the real GEO and you are arguing no, Italy has more value

Value to whom, some domain speculator?

Or to a business based in Italy tyring to run a portal that Italian users will go to

Italia is the keyword for italy

Now you want to argue about US Geos?

You think USA inside USA is how people look for stuff?

I make a leaving delivering targeted GEO traffic

You think a guy in New York or Miami is looking for USA tires or New York Tires and Miami Tires?

Now you think a person in Miami is looking for Miami tires or Florida Tires

CITY GEOS are the top value GEOS in real life

I know, I deal in them all day long, that's what local business owners want

Now some national companies want state geos, but most searches are city based if a GEO tag is used

Just like in Italy, most searches will be by local people looking for stuff in Rome and Naples and other cities

So a country level GEO is ok, but all the action is usally using major cities

So if you want to say run a national whatever in USA, you don't get USA whatever, you get the top 5 or so states, and you get 50 to 100 cities

I know I've done a ton of these type of setups

Now to some big company in Italy, yeah, Italia is the buy, but you need Italiawhatever and then all the top cities in Italywhatever to dominate your market

But as to 'portals' the country or states trump the cities in perceived value

But in the USA, the top value is going to be newyork, for one reason, that's how new york city people look and 20 million state people may look, so newyork.com is the jewel, worth more than USA.com in my opinion

Why?

No one looks for USA this and that

Maybe people outside the USA look for it that way, like people outside Italia look for ITALY

now, newyork.net is up for almost nothing on this forum

go to estibot a worthless valuation site IMO, and guess what, they hit newyork.com right 11M

yet they don't know how to value the .net and the .whatever

or the prefixes

Yeah, newyork.com would a major portal, the top GEO probably in the USA for traffic, even though more people live in CA

Why?

New York is a city related search, the top city in the USA, and California isn't the top way people in CA look for stuff, they look for LA and san diego and san fran etc

Bottom line is, a domain is worth someone will pay, I deal with end users, and an end user would pay more for italia than italy

why

that end user is inside italy and they know italia is what the market looks for

anyway, my statements aren't baseless, you stated italy is searched for more, I called you on it and you said google is wrong, then I said alexa proves I'm right too

Now you're saying my words are baseless

wrong, I'm the expert in this conversation, I do appraisals, I make a living selling GEO related traffic and keywords

believe what you want

you're wrong

Google proves it and so does alexa

now does some uneducated speculator want to pay more for italy because he is like you, using a gut reaction and not understanding how people really look for stuff

yeah, more people think of Italy as Italy, yet the everyday traffic is ITALIA

case closed

 

[eDomaining]

roflmao!!!

 

[adonivideo]

You have to consider that there are more Italians living abroad than domestically, so Italy is searched more than Italia. You can see this with Italy.com outperforming Italia.com.

Your words dude

Italy is searched more than Italia WRONG
Italy.com outperforms Italia.com WRONG
Italia.it outperforms all the sites and inside Italy Italia is over 10 to 1 searched for more and globally it is 2 to 1

But you're an 'expert', as you can see, you made statements above that were wrong

Keep laughing

Oh, your site has some nice alexa stats but it looks like a couple of people are hitting the site with alexa bars, Alexa isn't too reliable until you get around the 10K range

So 200K alexa can be wrong

It shows your traffic is coming mostly from edomaining, yet Google shows NO ONE IS LOOKING FOR THAT WORD

So a few people looking for your site with alexa bars can screw up the whole report, that's why 10K is the magic number to be accurate on Alexa as to keywords and stuff

Anyway, write your blog and give false facts, the two things you said above are wrong

What I say comes from real life experience, you want me to list some serp's here and make your eyeballs pop out

GEO term after GEO term and my clients are always page one and ADONI VIDEO is all over their site

LOL

So yeah, I got thousands of GEO SERPS and everyone has ADONI VIDEO on it

Go look up any auto term in Fort Lauderdale my stomping grounds

Fort Lauderdale

Towing
Mufflers
Rims
Wheels
Tires

Start clicking the sites

Over and over you see

ADONI VIDEO

You know what a business pays to be on PAGE ONE multiple times for their industry?

500 to 3K a month for a minor market like FTL

You know I'm actually pretty much RETIRED, I turn down over 99% of the people that contact me for SEO

You know why, my phone rings all day long

Go to google maps

Look up SEO in any major city

SEO NEW YORK
SEO LOS ANGELES
SEO DALLAS
SEO HOUSTON
SEO SAN FRANCISCO

Who do you see over and over

ME

LOL

So I KNOW SEO and I know GEO

And yeah, over the years I've had clients doing global domain keyword acquisitions and they bought both Italia and italy

keep writing about what you think you know

I'm the real deal, in the trenches with businesses getting paid to rule google for them

Oh, page one google, yeah I'm page one

Page one Yahoo on yahoo

Yeah I'm there

Page one whatever yeah I own it

Yeah Adoni Video is on 1,000's of domains

My sites for my clients hit PAGE ONE

Just like my clients in my videos say

PAGE ONE GOT ME PAGE ONE

So when italy.net hits page one, if it ever does

remember 13 to 1 searches IN ITALY are not for Italy but italia

LOL

yeah your statements are false above

Italia is searched for more

And Italia.it and italia.com both outperform italy.com

LATDMFWKN

 

[eDomaining]

it's domaining.. silly SEO guy

:smilewinkgrin:

 

[adonivideo]

and who tells the business owners and executives what domains to buy?

THE SEO GUY

he's the one that pops the keywords and if you want to pop traffic in italy you get italia keywords in .it tld

so keep writing about what YOU THINK moves domain values

before any business owner writes a major check for a domain, THEY CONSULT WITH THE SEO GURU they trust

so THE SEO GUY sets the values

LOL

If I had time I'd read your blog to show you all the false statements you made there too

I say something simple and you say bs that was wrong then you want to argue google is wrong

italia is the keyword for GEO and SEO in italy, end of subject

but italy.com and .net are sure nice country GEO's

kinda of like saying who's hotter

this starlet or that starlet

anyone, nice .net, nice sale, but like I said at the beginning

ITALIA is the trump card in the GEO stack for Italy

now would I put 50K into italy.net when someone has newyork.net for only 70k

that's the steal

or is the newyork.net 100K on this site

I saw the name and let some people know it's up for sale

what was it 70K last time it was sold and now it's 100K

anyway, now that's the GEO to be chasing right now, newyork trumps all those keywords IMO

newyork and losangeles are the top GEO's to me, but I guess some like the country GEO's, but all the ppc action is off of major city GEO's

anyway, nice .net and we should leave this thread alone, italy and italia are both needed to target GEO SEO in Italy and yeah inside italy it's all ITALIA

LOL

 

[eDomaining]

but for the rest of us it's Italy.net sells for $52,000

 

[-ET-]

I wonder how much time adonvideo spends in replying on this forum. Do you still get time to do SEO/SEM dude?.

 

[ukbackorder]

Please mate stick to single line spacing - these posts made my eyes bleed and, to be honest, I ended up just scanning through them rather than reading them in depth. Also your points become less credible the more often you tell us you're the expert and 'guru' etc without any evidence of sites, a membership here only going back a year and a half, and that you get paid by other people to work for them (if you were that good why would you not make a fortune and spend time on your own sites?). I understand your point on this subject and I understand the others view. However you dress it up there will be a lot of non-italians (remember Italy is the only country that speaks that language) looking for information about Italy who will NEVER use the word Italia. It all depends on who you intend to focus the content toward.

 

[italiandragon]

OMG how did I miss it?

But this domain is not for Italians, its for foreigners looking info about Italy as Italians dont really like .net