Italy.net sells for $52000

[adonivideo]

I dont do the buying here usually, others have buying accounts and we get great domains here all the time for almost nothing, since this is where a lot of speculators that reg stuff end up dumping stuff they have no clue as to value for development, so this and sedo is where we find domains that speculators dump for nothing with huge cpc's and high search value, plus we have a huge portfolio of stuff we plan on developing to keep us busy, we bring on 50 to 100 site portals for clients that want leads from the net, that's all the net has become is one big advertising pit. As to making a fortune, I got a ton of ventures, and now everything I touch is internet based, and it starts with my SEO skills, and if you don't think landing large SEO and SEM accounts is big, you have no clue as to advertising, the money is in getting clients to pay you large residual income to keep stuff on page one organic and maps and to manage their ppc budgets, the real SEO companies like mine that actually get page one for real businesses are making tons of dough and they're becoming the new ad agencies, and some are gonna be snapped up soon in buyouts with the larger tech companies, so the SEO gods that have large market share are all gonna be takeover targets or IPO projects soon, SEO moves the net, you're seeing it now in Insurance, the biggest domain value deal ever, 36+M, if anyone noticed, all the nicer insurance GEO's have been selling under the radar for a while now, just look up the major terms, you see them all going, LOL, so insurance is why I'm here personally, shaking the leaves looking for guys with undeveloped gold, got a mega insurance SEO project going on, and I'll be finding some of the gems here like we found some on SEDO and heck, there was even some major reg holes that are now all gone, so 'insurance' is our latest client and we're bringing on line over 200 sites, within a month when you say insurance in any major market in the USA, you'll see our work, once we pop every top city in the USA, the leads go to X company, then I meet with a few major execs in that industry and take bids on the network, then I go back to playing golf and making documentaries and writing books, I don't have to do this for a 'living' I come in and out and develop stuff and 'retire' again

---------- Post added at 10:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:34 AM ----------

Italians dont really like .net

no one said that

oh another italiian descent person that thinks people in Italy look for Italy and not Italia, why don't you use the google adwords estimator, select country, ITALY, then select keywords italy and italia, you see in Itally it's like 13 to 1 for Italia searches over Italy

so now you want to argue too, that a GEO portal inside Italy should be using italy, LOL

don't you love domain speculators, LMAO

why don't you go to google, put in page one google maps, a major SEO term, 200M pages, who you see over google?

LOL

Now go to yahoo put in page one yahoo, who is #1

Oh, check page one google, who is page one too

Now click on maps on google, they banned all the SEO gods from the index, so put in SEO any major city in USA, new york, los angeles, dallas, houston, philadelphia, chicago, you see any SEO companies over and over on PAGE ONE often #1?

LOL

So you think inside Italy more people look for Italy too huh, and you think .it their CC isn't what they think of first for anything they want?

keyword.it is the gold for SEO in Italy, like .co.uk is the gold for SEO in UK, so yeah, some CC's are worth way more than their .com and .net and yeah, keywords in the natural language of a CC are more valuable in that GEO market for that keyword than the .com and .net for that product in that market

anyway, if you bother to get a city or a state or a country domain name, the area of intended use is the key to determine the value, why do you think a major country like Italy went for NOTHING in a .net, if it was worth developing a development company in Italy would have snapped it up years ago

yeah 50K is great for country .net, but what I said is fact, IN ITALY the gold is ITALIA

now you want to dispute how CC domains in a geographically are not worth what the .com are

jetprivado.es inside spain and other spanish speaking coutries is what spanish people look for

privadojet.es is not what they look for, but for SEO you can manipulate search engines with a word like privadojet.es that no one looks for

now you got a jet company, you want people all over finding you, so you get GEOprivatejet and you try to get root level privatejet or jet keywords

the reason, when someone goes to yahoo and puts in

private jet whatever, you want to show up

let's see go to yahoo

private jet germany who is #1 organic?

private jet italy who is #1 organic?

private jet japan who is #1 organic?

now that development is not to hit the people in those areas, it's to hit the english people in the USA looking to jet to those areas

now that's a simple project, not even full SEO work, but #1 organic for nice cpc terms that a jet broker pays tons of dough for leads on

now the .com assets are being developed for another jet client with big bucks they own the planes

so on google you will soon see the .com's GEO's popping up all over and on maps and not just organic

anyway, that client was told, you want to hit inside Italy you get .it and you get the italian keywords, he laughed, and said

I don't want italians calling me from Italy, I want people in the USA flying to rome, I got no staff to even speak italian

LOL

so there's an example of using italy over italia, a client in the USA said make my calls come from the USA

same thing with a large madame we did a project for

explained to her via skype

LOOK HO you want your HOS working inside Italy you use HOITALIA.it

She said no, she wants to fly her english speaking HOS to Italy to rich english speaking dudes in Rome looking for HOS to talk to them in english

LOL

These are real life SEO stories about real SEO work we did and how ITALY and ITALIA was discussed

So like my first post said

IN ITALY no one looks for ITALY it's all ITALIA, and yeah, it's 13to1 according to adwords estimator

now dudes that don't develop domains is telling an SEO GOD how geo works

LOL

hey when I say SEO dallas where are you on google maps?

when I say SEO san francisco where are you on google maps?

when I say private jet italy where are you on yahoo?

I'm #1 in all those spots

yeah I don't know anything about Italy and SEO

LOL

 

[ukbackorder]

You're only one step away from starting every word with a capital letter.
Still double-spaced - every other word/line a LOL - lots of ranting and bragging but very little content.
Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Melly]

wth. I just wasted like 45 seconds of my time.

 

[adonivideo]

wth. I just wasted like 45 seconds of my time.

actually the info for domainers is useful, maybe now they know why some GEO's are dogs that should be gold, maybe they learned to use adwords tools to look up stats

and they sure learned ITALIA is more sought after in searches than ITALY

LOL

now if you knew all that, great, but maybe now you go pick up some nice Italia keywords

 

[italiandragon]

are you available to write content for my websites?

Looks like you like to write...and I'm not an "Italian descent", I'm Italian.

And I don't need Google to tell me what Italians search.

---------- Post added at 03:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:49 AM ----------

You have to consider that there are more Italians living abroad than domestically, so Italy is searched more than Italia. You can see this with Italy.com outperforming Italia.com. As far the (cc) for Italy it is .it, here you have Italy.it forwarded Italia.it which is owned by the ministry of tourism (gov). Not to discredit Italia.net which in it's own right probably gets a decent amount of traffic, but the sale of Italy.net is spot on. Good looking site by the way.

Congrats to buyer and seller!

Contrary to popular belief .NET is not dead..

what??

"there are more Italians living abroad than domestically"

Are you kidding me? And tell me, where are these 60,000,000+ of emigrated Italians?

As for the rest, I can assure you that Italians do not search for Italy.com, nor for Italia.it or Italia.com or any other. Tourists do.

 

[bmugford]

actually the info for domainers is useful, maybe now they know why some GEO's are dogs that should be gold, maybe they learned to use adwords tools to look up stats

and they sure learned ITALIA is more sought after in searches than ITALY

LOL

now if you knew all that, great, but maybe now you go pick up some nice Italia keywords

Honestly, who cares what the top searched term in Italy is. In the rest of the world the term "Italy" dominates "Italia" in almost every metric that matters.
The rest of the world is much larger than Italy.

Italy.net has far more value because of its global appeal than Italia.net would.

Brad

---------- Post added at 12:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:56 PM ----------

As for the rest, I can assure you that Italians do not search for Italy.com, nor for Italia.it or Italia.com or any other. Tourists do.

Bingo.

 

[-ET-]

LOL

now if you knew all that, great, but maybe now you go pick up some nice Italia keywords

Albeit, it seems you are masquerading about being SEO/SEM Guru. You sure can try to be a content writer

Wonder how people get so much time replying.

And for me it is Italy. I would prefer rest of the world over Italia. I see it this way 50 billion people v/s 50 million.

 

[adonivideo]

the point is, a GEO domain is for portal development, no one searches for anything.tld, they do search for italia+keywords and I guarantee you, the majority of searches in the world for anything to do with 'italy' are italia+keyword related, and the keyword is mostly gonna be an italian word, global searches are 2to1 at google for italia v. italy, so all your remarks are fantasy. italia is the root geo keyword to own and if you own the .tld for italy or the .com or .net for italia, you have a potential geo portal gold mine. No business in Italy is gonna pay you to be on a subdomain for italy.net NONE, not one, now you want to make money with a italia.it/com/net portal, you create subdomains, whatever.italia.it/com/net, you do some seo and pop the sub domain, then you can sell a ton of advertising to local businesses that want relevancy in Italy for their keywords, that's how a geo portal works, all I see here are speculators making false statements, more people search for italy than italia, BULL, the stats are public at google and they show 2to1 italia over italy and the more important stat is what are people inside italy looking for and it is 13 to 1 italia

now you all can say you want a geo portal that appeals to the 'world' but the reality is, every business in Italy that wants to be popping on search engines wants to be relevant for italia+keyword searches, and when the businesses in Italy start to spend big bucks on ppc it will show italia is the word they want, the reason, no one in italy looks for anything with italy as geo keyword, if they use a geo at all, it's going to normally be a major city in italy and then maybe the country, so you are in italy, you live there, you want to go to a bar in rome, you look for how you say bar in italian and rome or a district known for bars in rome, you won't look for bars italia or italy, now you are in italy looking for something big like a bank or insurance company, maybe you use a country level geo, and it would be italia, but overall anyone looking for info in italy that is from italy is looking for italia, maybe they want info about a place they're going in italy, so they look for that city and if they put a geo country tag it is italia not italy, anyway, italy.net has no commercial use inside italy like I said, not unless you are say a travel agent in italy trying to use it to get english tourists, and everyday there are only minor amounts of tourist looking for stuff in italy, and the searches in italy for stuff in italy will never ever be done using italy so italy.net has very little portal value like I said at the start inside italy, no one in italy looks for anything with italy in the search, but they sure do use italia, that's why in italy the word italia is used 13M times a month in searches and italy is 1M

running a country level portal with a word no one uses in that area is foolish, so if it's not going to be a geo portal, what's a country domain good for? nothing, oh you want to show up when kids wherever are doing school search for italy or only show up when people outside italy look for travel related stuff in italy, good for you, but for pure seo money making potential, you develop italia.it/com/net for subdomains to be relevant inside italy for anything italians in italy are looking for, that's the only reason to invest in a domain like that, you can pop italy travel words way cheaper, italyvacations, italytravel, italyhotels, so for seo for 'travel' italy is ok, but that's a niche seo development, travel isn't a major money keyword, it's big, but do you know what insurance companies pay per click, or doctors or lawyers, or realtors or charities, etc. So you own italia, you can do seo for relevancy inside italy and reap big bucks for big money business cpc terms relevant in italy, you own italy.net, yeah you can make money maybe in travel outside the USA, wow, you're rich, not really, the big cpc is inside italy the insurance companies, the lawyers, the doctors, the realtors, the businesses that pay 10, 20, 30, 40 bucks a click now in cities like new york, and los angeles and miami, etc. every industry now is moving into targeted geo relevant searches for what they do, all of them, insurance.com just sold for close to 40M, why? google wants 2M+ a day now as a budget inside just the USA for insurance related terms, so you don't do major seo development for businesses inside italy using italy.net, you do it with italia as the root search, go sell an Italian insurance company seo work and tell them you have italy.net as a key lead generator, they willl laugh at you, they want show up in Italy and if you can't have eyeballs inside Italy, you got no money, now you think insurance countries outside are gonna buy targeted big money clicks on italy.net no, they want exposure in the USA on sites with geo target domains with insurance related traffic, so again, who wants to use italy.net inside italy? no business except a minor niche that cater to tourists maybe, oh wow another travel site, big deal, if you can't sell to many segments of industry and business, you aren't hitting the power of a GEO, you control newyork.com/net yeah you can do tons of relevant geo traffic with subdomains, insurance.manhattan.newyork.com/net now you got a targeted geo domain to pop google, you have insurance.rome.italy.net what, rome is in italia, that's what an insurance company in italy wants, so travel.rome.italy.net is the stuff you can develop, wow a minor niche, travel, what about the 99.9% of other industry a GEO portal should reach, so yeah, for what I said, italia is the gold, italy.net, nice domain, but not a major keyword for large scale seo development of mega buck cpc keywords

 

[Gerry]

What?

A domain sold???

Wow.

 

[adonivideo]

Albeit, it seems you are masquerading about being SEO/SEM Guru.

you talking to me? actually, when the media writes about me, they say there's SEO GURUS and they all bow to the man that wrote the book THE SEO GOD... LOL my serps speak for themselves, I get page 1 for clients for a living, look in my tag you see real clients with their fingers up saying PAGE 1 GOT ME PAGE 1... like dizzy dean said, it's not bragging when you can do it, it's a FACT, yeah I'm a SEO maven, and if I were buying a country .com or .net or a tld, I want the keyword the people in that country look for, or I'm only gonnna be relevant to tourists, the action is what are people in italy looking for, and it's 13 to 1 italia to italy and globally it's 2 to 1, italia to italy,

 

[Gerry]

Interesting results:

italy broad global/local searches per month

9,140,000 4,090,000
italy italy
9,140,000 4,090,000
tuscany
823,000 450,000
rome italy
368,000 246,000
hotel in italy
368,000 201,000
map of italy
301,000 135,000
italy map
301,000 135,000
map italy
301,000 135,000
hotels in italy
246,000 110,000
venice italy
246,000 135,000
florence italy
246,000 135,000
travel europe
246,000 135,000
lake garda
165,000 27,100
italy weather
135,000 49,500
weather in italy
135,000 49,500
google italia
135,000 2,900
italy 2010
110,000 27,100
italy travel
110,000 74,000
travel italy
110,000 74,000
travel to italy
110,000 74,000
travel in italy
110,000 74,000
greece holidays
110,000 18,100
cheap italy
110,000 49,500
italy tours
90,500 60,500
tours of italy
90,500 60,500
europe tours
90,500 40,500
naples italy
90,500 49,500
holidays in italy
90,500 22,200
italy holidays
90,500 22,200
holidays to italy
90,500 22,200
new italy
90,500 49,500
flights to italy
90,500 27,100
rome weather
74,000 22,200
tuscany italy
74,000 40,500
italy train
60,500 27,100
sorrento italy
60,500 27,100
italy vacation
60,500 49,500
europe holidays
49,500 12,100
villas in italy
49,500 22,200
italy rent
49,500 22,200
como italy
49,500 22,200
italy accom
49,500 18,100
france italy
49,500 18,100
italy accommodation
49,500 18,100
verona italy
40,500 18,100
italy food
40,500 22,200
travel books
40,500 22,200
italy facts
40,500 22,200
facts about italy
40,500 22,200
luxury italy
40,500 22,200

[italy] exact Global/local searches per month

246,000 90,500
[google italia]
74,000 2,400
[map of italy]
49,500 22,200
[italy map]
49,500 18,100
[tuscany]
27,100 8,100
[venice italy]
27,100 14,800
[rome italy]
22,200 12,100
[florence italy]
18,100 9,900
[greece holidays]
14,800 720
[rome weather]
12,100 1,600
[lake garda]
12,100 1,000
[google italy]
12,100 1,600
[italy facts]
9,900 6,600
[italy holidays]
9,900 720
[tuscany italy]
9,900 6,600
[sorrento italy]
9,900 3,600
[naples italy]
9,900 5,400
[italy tourism]
9,900 2,400
[ebay italy]
9,900 1,000
[map of italy with cities]
8,100 4,400
[italy tours]
8,100 5,400
[verona italy]
8,100 4,400
[map italy]
8,100 1,600
[car hire italy]
8,100 880
[italy vacations]
8,100 5,400
[italy weather]
8,100 1,900
[europe tours]
6,600 2,900
[italy food]
6,600 2,400
[siena italy]
6,600 2,900
[travel europe]
6,600 1,900
[lake como italy]
6,600 2,900
[germany tourism]
6,600 2,400
[holidays in italy]
6,600 720
[italy travel]
6,600 2,900
[positano italy]
6,600 2,900
[amalfi coast italy]
6,600 2,900
[weather in italy]
5,400 1,600
[facts about italy]
5,400 2,900
[italy train]
5,400 1,300
[car rental italy]
5,400 1,300
[cheap flights to italy]
5,400 1,600
[hotels in italy]
5,400 1,900
[bologna italy]
5,400 2,400
[lucca italy]
5,400 2,400
[villas in italy]
5,400 720
[pisa italy]
5,400 1,900
[things to do in rome]
4,400 1,600
[travel books]
4,400 1,900
[lake garda holidays]
4,400 170
[hotels in rome italy]
4,400 1,900

italia broad global/local searches per month

roma
20,400,000 450,000
italia
16,600,000 450,000
italia italia
16,600,000 450,000
italian
9,140,000 5,000,000
italy
9,140,000 4,090,000
rome
7,480,000 2,740,000
napoli
6,120,000 135,000
genova
2,240,000 49,500
toscana
1,830,000 90,500
italia in
1,220,000 18,100
trieste
1,000,000 49,500
d italia
823,000 27,100
tuscany
823,000 450,000
di italia
301,000 4,400
map of italy
301,000 135,000
italy map
301,000 135,000
map italy
301,000 135,000
a italia
246,000 4,400
italian food
201,000 135,000
roma italia
135,000 3,600
google italia
135,000 2,900
italia google
135,000 2,900
italy travel
110,000 74,000
italia spa
110,000 1,900
458 italia
110,000 22,200
lingua italiana
110,000 2,400
italia mail
110,000 880
hotel italia
110,000 8,100
italia hotel
110,000 8,100
mapa da italia
90,500 720
repubblica italia
90,500 880
italy tours
90,500 60,500
flights to italy
90,500 27,100
train italy
60,500 27,100
restaurante italiano
60,500 1,300
turismo italia
60,500 720
auto italia
49,500 1,300
coliseum rome
40,500 18,100
b&amp b italia
33,100 3,600
casa italia
33,100 1,900
italy tourism
27,100 9,900
air italia
27,100 720
italia air
27,100 590
napoli italia
22,200 390
visit italy
22,200 9,900
italia in miniatura
18,100 110
lake garda holidays
18,100 2,900
italia italiano
18,100 1,300
italy guide
18,100 9,900
bar italia
18,100 1,900

[italia] global/exact searches per month

[roma]
301,000 8,100
[italia]
246,000 5,400
[italy]
246,000 90,500
[rome]
165,000 40,500
[napoli]
135,000 2,900
[google italia]
74,000 2,400
[map of italy]
49,500 22,200
[italian]
49,500 22,200
[toscana]
49,500 1,900
[genova]
49,500 1,900
[italy map]
49,500 18,100
[italian food]
40,500 14,800
[trieste]
40,500 2,400
[tuscany]
27,100 8,100
[458 italia]
14,800 2,900
[italy tourism]
9,900 2,400
[italia in miniatura]
9,900 58
[map of italy with cities]
8,100 4,400
[italy tours]
8,100 5,400
[map italy]
8,100 1,600
[flights to italy]
6,600 1,900
[italy travel]
6,600 2,900
[train italy]
5,400 480
[air italia]
5,400 140
[hotel italia]
4,400 320
[lake garda holidays]
4,400 170
[mapa da italia]
3,600 16
[casa italia]
3,600 210
[auto italia]
3,600 170
[ciao italia]
3,600 1,300
[bar italia]
3,600 320
[roma italia]
2,900 170
[lingua italiana]
2,900 73
[coliseum rome]
2,900 1,300
[italian airlines]
2,900 1,000
[turismo italia]
2,900 73
[restaurante italiano]
2,400 110
[viva italia]
2,400 390
[italy climate]
1,900 880
[visit italy]
1,900 590
[cafe italia]
1,600 590
[map of tuscany]
1,600 590
[trips to italy]
1,600 1,300
[napoli italia]
1,600 58
[cheap holidays to italy]
1,600 170
[italia guitars]
1,300 480
[tourist attractions in italy]
1,300 720
[italia airlines]
1,300 390
[italy map regions]
1,000 480
[channel 4 football italia]
1,000 140

 

[Stian]

Nice sale indeed.

 

[-ET-]

globally it's 2 to 1, italia to italy,

Are you speaking about the news reference volume?. Where did u pull this from? Trends?

GEO Domains are mostly meant to attract tourist and give information about the place. And if you go by SEO/SEM principals in Travel Category. Italy always stands out over Italia.

Italia has never bet Italy over search volumes in Travel Category worldwide since 2004. You are just being devious about your pageonegoogle by writing up so much about SEO/SEM. It shows now

 

[bmugford]

Interesting results:

italy broad global/local searches per month

Raw search numbers don't tell the whole story.

Look at the competition bar in Google keyword tool. For all languages - all countries "Italy" is a much more competitive term than "Italia"

Even for Italy - Italian the competition bar is slightly higher for the term "Italy" over "Italia".

Also in Google traffic estimator the CPC for all languages - all countries is $1.77 for "Italy" vs $0.83 for "Italia".
Even for Italy - Italian the CPC is $1.61 for "Italy" and $0.86" for "Italia".

Brad

 

[Gerry]

Raw search numbers don't tell the whole story.

Look at the competition bar in Google keyword tool. For all languages - all countries "Italy" is a much more competitive term than "Italia"

Even for Italy - Italian the competition bar is slightly higher for the term "Italy" over "Italia".

Also in Google traffic estimator the CPC for all languages - all countries is $1.77 for "Italy" vs $0.83 for "Italia".
Even for Italy - Italian the CPC is $1.61 for "Italy" and $0.86" for "Italia".

Brad

Brad

I wasn't going to post all of that. But I can.

Personally, the bottom line is I would not mind owning either one.

But I would give more weight to Italy.net (and value) than italia .net.


Now, for the CPC...that is perhaps the least reliable measure of all regarding the trends and stats.

I do take stock in the competition for ad space as well as search trends.

Search trend bar is a hugely often overlooked metric. If the competition is low, of course the cpc will generally be low. Unless it is a niche market sector. Honestly, the domainer has to discern what these numbers and charts represent. Not only "what" they represent but "why" they represent what they do.

A graph I study is the overall trending which is indicative of the popularity (aka traffic) of that name. If the topic is not genuinely "disinteresting" and loses its overall appeal, that is one thing. Often domain names can and do have a short shelf life (such as those dated names or names of fads or celebrities). Or, the domain name has a "seasonal appeal" (such as something like NFL Free Agents or Bow Hunting). Those are a comparison of seasonal names I own. Yes, I see a spike in each as their respective seasons approach or are "in season". Otherwise, the traffic is seasonal. If the domain speculator were to consider these trends (or not consider) they may be missing some huge seasonal traffic and conversion. I make a very nice conversion and PPC this time of year as deer season approaches (I also see deer tags dot com go up) and in the early summer, late spring I see great traffic and PPC during the NFL Free Agent signings.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

This has got to be the most boring 3rd page in dnf history.

Italiandragon said it best, it is tourists who search not citizens.

Tourists are likely to search Italy, case closed, go to bed and for the love of god if you make another 600 word reply I will give you The malocchio.

 

[eDomaining]

what??


Are you kidding me? And tell me, where are these 60,000,000+ of emigrated Italians?

"over 70 million people of full or part Italian ancestry live outside of Italy, most notably in South America, North America, Australia and other parts of Europe."

Wikipedia - Italian people

 

[ukbackorder]

Italian ancestry has nothing to do with migration. It does not mean they have been to/lived in Italy, nor does it mean they can speak a word of Italian. By that logic all the Americans are Irish, all the British are scandinavians etc. The Italian language is still mainly spoken only in one country - hence the figures of Italy vs Italia. Personally I wouldn't want the aggravation of developing a country .net. You'd always be losing out to it's bigger .com brother and, in my opinion, most traffic would have to be fought for. I suppose the task may be easier due to the poor development of italy.com.

[edited to add]I realise my generalisation was rather sweeping and, if I offended anyone, that was not my intention. Just trying to make a point

 

[italiandragon]

"over 70 million people of full or part Italian ancestry live outside of Italy, most notably in South America, North America, Australia and other parts of Europe."

Wikipedia - Italian people

Oh yes sure I saw plenty of those ones. Most of them can't spell properly one single word in Italian.

 

[Gerry]

Oh yes sure I saw plenty of those ones.

Lorenzo, what part of Italy are you from?

A good amiche is on the way to Cremona.