LLLL.com buyout failed?

[I33]

damn no wonder i won 2 LLLL.com on snap. i just wanted to see how high they would go. Now i own 2 guess i cant cancel out of these

 

[thevirtual]

kiqf.com could be football.

kickoff

That is a longshot at best.

 

[DigiNames]

That is a longshot at best.

Ummm...yea. Not exactly memorable I don't think you would tell someone to come to your football site, kick off dot com and the would figure it out...

Ohh, probably kiqf.com! :smilewinkgrin:

 

[MAllie]

For a while now I've been wondering how names such as these yield anything in parking? Who would put such combinations into the search engine or address bar, unless they actually knew a company the acronym fitted?

 

[Tim Schoon]

For a while now I've been wondering how names such as these yield anything in parking? Who would put such combinations into the search engine or address bar, unless they actually knew a company the acronym fitted?

I own over 250 LLLL.coms, most dont get any revenue or visitors at all, however some random names do.
I´ve got a couple LLLL.coms I got at snap that get over 50 uniques per day.

 

[Mike Cruz]

I made a lot of money back in the day with llll.com's but I only bought premium letters / pronounceable... I never fell for the "reg all you can" deal... stayed away and it paid off... This was a long time coming and pretty predictable to annoying who thought long term...

 

[Rubber Duck]

kiqf.com could be football.

kickoff

This is a good indication of why the bubble, whose bursting required no retrospective prediction, finally did burst.

By the way, how did the LLLLL.com buyout go?

 

[Gerry]

Not sure how one can claim the buyout failed when in fact it did not fail - at one point all were registered.

The proper assessment would be can the buyout be sustained.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Not sure how one can claim the buyout failed when in fact it did not fail - at one point all were registered.

The proper assessment would be can the buyout be sustained.

Hmmm... tell that to the guys that bought them in the secondary market and have little traffic or prospects of a resale. That's if they will even own up to it.

 

[Gerry]

We sometimes forget that X,Q,W etc are huge Chinese letters...and, mainland China + the Chinese diaspora are the fastest growth group on the internet. They may well have increasingly good value to Chinese buyers & end users.


Not suggesting you buy up all those kinds of LLLL's, but, sometimes we can be a bit western-centric in our thinking, imo...

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Very true, and so glad to see others mention the western-centric thinking.

Many of my high traffic domains are LLLL beginning with those letters you mention...along with Y.

One beginning with X has received many offers on and off sedo.

Traffic conversion is an issue with many of these. I am not sure if a sedo lander automatically converts to Chinese when a chinese viewer lands on the page.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Very true, and so glad to see others mention the western-centric thinking.

Many of my high traffic domains are LLLL beginning with those letters you mention...along with Y.

One beginning with X has received many offers on and off sedo.

Traffic conversion is an issue with many of these. I am not sure if a sedo lander automatically converts to Chinese when a chinese viewer lands on the page.

Since when did most Chinese actually use the Latin Alphabet?

How many Chinese Web pages are actually left in Pin Yin. Granted a decade ago they made up the vast majority. Today if you can find any then they would have to be regarded as a bit of an oddity. I would think there are more Chinese web pages in the English language than in Chinese Pin Yin.

The lesson is that if you are going to make a cultural speculation, you need to do some research.

 

[hugegrowth]

There are almost half a million possible LLLL combinations, if less than a hundred are available for regging, it's a drop in the bucket. If the number of available ones keeps rising over the next weeks, now that would be something.

 

[Rubber Duck]

There are almost half a million possible LLLL combinations, if less than a hundred are available for regging, it's a drop in the bucket. If the number of available ones keeps rising over the next weeks, now that would be something.

Anything of value is hunted to extinction at Snapnames. These clearly are not only not deemed to be worth 50 Bucks but apparently not even worth reg fee. I think the message from the market is clear enough.

 

[katherine]

Anything of value is hunted to extinction at Snapnames. These clearly are not only not deemed to be worth 50 Bucks but apparently not even worth reg fee. I think the message from the market is clear enough.

*hehe* In some way the buyout has thrived on an artificial, confined parallel market that has gone bust, unlike the 'mainstream' market.

 

[Sonny Banks]

Every domain is valuable if you find the right buyer
The world is SOOOOO big!

 

[Gerry]

Since when did most Chinese actually use the Latin Alphabet?

Since the internet decided decades ago to use the Latin Alphabet for URL's.

If I have the ability to measure the source of the traffic, then that is the point.

More than 300 million Chinese people, or nearly a quarter of the country's population, have studied English either as a major course or as an elective subject, said a senior Chinese education official on Sunday in Shanghai.

I assume very little. Over 20 years ago, the agency I worked for was doing an exchange program with Russia. We were to send 16 people to Russia and Russia was sending 16 to us. Having known of this plan in advance, I decided to take a basic conversational Russia course.

When the group arrived all they wanted to do was speak english! They had learned the best they could from bootleg sources as anything western was still mostly taboo. They were eager to try their English out on English speakers.

Again, there appears to be an audience in China for english (latin) characters as the internet has dictated this for decades.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Chinese Web sites flipped from Pin Yin to Chinese characters in less than two years. As of next month as the IDNs are put in the Root with the full weight of the Chinese Government behind the initiative, you can expect the process of conversion of URLs to start a hectic pace, probably with dot CN taking a big chunk out of dot com. Anyone who has another opinion just is not familiar with the facts.

As for Russia, they have only just introduced Landing Cards in English. Give me a break!

Since the internet decided decades ago to use the Latin Alphabet for URL's.

If I have the ability to measure the source of the traffic, then that is the point.

More than 300 million Chinese people, or nearly a quarter of the country's population, have studied English either as a major course or as an elective subject, said a senior Chinese education official on Sunday in Shanghai.

I assume very little. Over 20 years ago, the agency I worked for was doing an exchange program with Russia. We were to send 16 people to Russia and Russia was sending 16 to us. Having known of this plan in advance, I decided to take a basic conversational Russia course.

When the group arrived all they wanted to do was speak english! They had learned the best they could from bootleg sources as anything western was still mostly taboo. They were eager to try their English out on English speakers.

Again, there appears to be an audience in China for english (latin) characters as the internet has dictated this for decades.

 

[hugegrowth]

Judging that there were 105 available LLLL at the start of this thread, to 50 yesterday, there is some kind of market for them. I only own a few LLLL but I can see their value as short .com's that can serve as acronyms.

And over time, I'm falling more and more into the camp of thinking english is the language of global commerce. That's why you see many english keywords selling in .de, .es, .fr and so on. Japanese and Korean parents send their kids all the way to schools in our small town in Canada to have them learn english.

I think Frank Schilling put it into good perspective in this interview, regarding global commerce and ASCII keyboards:

http://www.playingtheangles.com/interviews/frank-schilling/

 

[Rubber Duck]

As the American economy disappears down the toilet English will become less and less the language of global commerce particularly at consumer level which is where domainers operate. To put it blunt Schilling doesn't know what he is talking about and neither do you.

As for domain sales reports, do they really reflect what is going on outside America. The Chinese have domaining forum many times bigger than this one but their sales are not reported anywhere you are likely to see them. You go to English sites that is why you see English keywords being reported.

Sure the Japanese used to send their kids to America. Why wouldn't they? America used to be their biggest market.

I just got married to a Czech Girl. We had to have an official interpreter at the Wedding. Lenka was almost rolling around the floor with the pronunciation, and the girl interpreting was reading from a script! Sure English is important at some levels but when it comes to purchasing decisions people are always more comfortable in their native language. Me? I just looked into her eyes to know everything I needed to know.

Judging that there were 105 available LLLL at the start of this thread, to 50 yesterday, there is some kind of market for them. I only own a few LLLL but I can see their value as short .com's that can serve as acronyms.

And over time, I'm falling more and more into the camp of thinking english is the language of global commerce. That's why you see many english keywords selling in .de, .es, .fr and so on. Japanese and Korean parents send their kids all the way to schools in our small town in Canada to have them learn english.

I think Frank Schilling put it into good perspective in this interview, regarding global commerce and ASCII keyboards:

http://www.playingtheangles.com/interviews/frank-schilling/

 

[Gerry]

Chinese Web sites flipped from Pin Yin to Chinese characters in less than two years. As of next month as the IDNs are put in the Root with the full weight of the Chinese Government behind the initiative, you can expect the process of conversion of URLs to start a hectic pace, probably with dot CN taking a big chunk out of dot com. Anyone who has another opinion just is not familiar with the facts.

As for Russia, they have only just introduced Landing Cards in English. Give me a break!

WTF is your point?

I am well aware of what is coming. I am also well aware of everything that you mentioned and have been following this for years.

But that was never stated or mentioned by you nor was the topic of this thread or your question dealing with IDN.

Since when did most Chinese actually use the Latin Alphabet?

Since the damn gatekeepers of the internet said this is the way the internet is to be accessed.

What is about to change and about to happen is all well and good.

I am and many others are well aware of what is about to happen. Yet, that was not the question nor the point that you raised.

If you want to take this thread to another plateau by mentioning IDN and so on, then start another thread so those points can be addressed.

I was responding to a question, that you asked, regarding the Chinese actually using the Latin Alphabet. If you want to discuss the history of the internet and where it is going, then that is an entirely different matter.

So there is your answer to your question.

I used the article posted to further support the interest in Chinese learning English and yes, they learn the alphabet. There are nearly as many Chinese learning English as the entire population of the US. Another study showed a paltry 14,000 kids enrolled in a Chinese language program here in the US.

The personal story was a demonstration of how English and the Latin Alphabet is widely used by other nations.

I presumed if you pose a question you want an answer, an answer based on fact intermixed with a personal twist.

If the answer is not what you want to hear or read, then that's just too damn bad that the answer does not sit with you very well. I get your point of there may be less emphasis or need for Chinese to learn Latin characters in the future. Again, that is not what you asked or queried.

Now, allow me to further quote you by stating "Anyone who has another opinion just is not familiar with the facts."