[M] Mimimise [dot] com - One Word Generic Dictionary Word - Massive!

[Duckinla]

This might be the time to tell us the name of the mysterious program that causes one to be in posession of stolen domains.

 

[AlienGG]

This might be the time to tell us the name of the mysterious program that causes one to be in posession of stolen domains.

I've asked couple of guys here to check it. It should not be public if it is not a legit tool.

 

[petrosc]

It is a website in a foreign language. Using Google Translator I got the following info:

The bottom of the page says "Domain name hunters, all rights reserved"

The main page consists only of the banner and navigation bar. There are only 3 links on the navigation bar. 1. Register domains(with affiliate link to now.cn) 2. Virtual host(with affiliate link to now.cn) and 3. "Rush Violence"

When I click on "Rush Violence" I go to a page with 2 input boxes.

The translator gave me this:


Please enter the domain name (the only support system. Com domain name, do not import http://) :

---input box---

Enter Email Address to prevent accidental dropping (optional) :

---input box ---

Then there is what seems to be a submit button and under it the following text: "System will first check if the fact the fact feasibility of a high success rate, and you must prepare credit cards without credit cards, Do not click on the next step"


I follow the instructions and enter a domain name and an email address, which gets me to a page with the following message:

Domain Name success rate is too low! Possible reasons for an error
1, not in the domain name registration Network Solutions
2. time is not on the domain name expired five days before
3, of the domain name registration information is not open
4, domain name format is not correct
5, Our service providers do not support the input you please re-enter the domain name after the other try. Thank you!


The first thing that strikes me is that they want you to enter a domain name and an email(to prevent accidental dropping as they say) and then they check the feasibility of catching that name.
According to the message I got at the end, an important criterion for a high success rate is that the domain name must be registered with NETSOL

The other thing they possibly check is if the email address is free, which will also increase the success rate if they are indeed hijacking the domains.

Will look into it more tomorrow, no more time today

 

[victimlesscrime]

I have looked into the push process @ godaddy.

I know I was supposed to receive an email directly from godaddy.
Instead, Grant had the email sent to him.
He has now sent me an email asking me to retrieve the codes and transaction ID from a URL belonging to him.

Therefore, the codes and transaction ID which should be known only to me are now also known to him.

This situation is not satisfactory.

I would appreciate it if anyone here could correct me if I'm wrong.

Grant, please cancel that push and initiate another one correctly with the info I sent you.

The clock is ticking and my patience is running out.

Pasted below is the email he sent to me.

Donnacha.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Donnacha,

You may proceed to URL to retrieve the transaction ID and security code needed for the account change.

If you have any question, please feel free to reply to this email.

Regards,
Your QuadroFX.com Team

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Change of Registrant Pending

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CHANGE OF REGISTRANT PENDING
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Dear donnacha costello,

The registrant of the following domain name(s):

MINIMISE.COM

has initiated a process by which you will become the registrant of the domain name(s).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You may be asked to log in to your account. To safely log in:

1. Go to the GoDaddy.com home page and select "My Account."

2. Create an account if you do not already have one, or enter your log in name (or customer number) and password. Then, click "Secure Login."

3. Select "Pending Account Changes" located in the "My Account" box.

4. Select "Accept Account Change" (upper right-hand corner), then provide the following information:


5. After you enter the Transaction ID and Security Code, please proceed through the shopping cart to complete the free transaction.

If the Change of Account is not completed within 10 days, the
transaction ID and the security code will expire.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If for any reason this information is incorrect or you feel this change of registrant request was made in error, please contact us within 15 days at mailto:[email protected].

Sincerely,
GoDaddy.com

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Copyright 2007 GoDaddy.com. All rights reserved.

 

[VirtualT]

just accept the domain already

I have looked into the push process @ godaddy.

I know I was supposed to receive an email directly from godaddy.
Instead, Grant had the email sent to him.
He has now sent me an email asking me to retrieve the codes and transaction ID from a URL belonging to him.

Therefore, the codes and transaction ID which should be known only to me are now also known to him.

This situation is not satisfactory.

I would appreciate it if anyone here could correct me if I'm wrong.

Grant, please cancel that push and initiate another one correctly with the info I sent you.

The clock is ticking and my patience is running out.

Pasted below is the email he sent to me.

Donnacha.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Donnacha,

You may proceed to removed by request to retrieve the transaction ID and security code needed for the account change.

If you have any question, please feel free to reply to this email.

Regards,
Your QuadroFX.com Team

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Change of Registrant Pending

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CHANGE OF REGISTRANT PENDING
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Dear donnacha costello,

The registrant of the following domain name(s):

MINIMISE.COM

has initiated a process by which you will become the registrant of the domain name(s).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You may be asked to log in to your account. To safely log in:

1. Go to the GoDaddy.com home page and select "My Account."

2. Create an account if you do not already have one, or enter your log in name (or customer number) and password. Then, click "Secure Login."

3. Select "Pending Account Changes" located in the "My Account" box.

4. Select "Accept Account Change" (upper right-hand corner), then provide the following information:


5. After you enter the Transaction ID and Security Code, please proceed through the shopping cart to complete the free transaction.

If the Change of Account is not completed within 10 days, the
transaction ID and the security code will expire.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If for any reason this information is incorrect or you feel this change of registrant request was made in error, please contact us within 15 days at mailto:[email protected].

Sincerely,
GoDaddy.com

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Copyright 2007 GoDaddy.com. All rights reserved.

 

[victimlesscrime]

>>just accept the domain already

As the original recipient of the godaddy mail and codes etc he could subsequently file a complaint with them and attempt to take the domain back.

quoting godaddy:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If for any reason this information is incorrect or you feel this change of registrant request was made in error, please contact us within 15 days at mailto:[email protected].
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, he could attempt to take it back any time in the next 15 days.

That's unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.

ALIENGG- DO THE ACCOUNT CHANGE "BY THE BOOK". FOLLOW CORRECT PROCEDURE.

 

[Johnn]

>>just accept the domain already

As the original recipient of the godaddy mail and codes etc he could subsequently file a complaint with them and attempt to take the domain back.

quoting godaddy:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If for any reason this information is incorrect or you feel this change of registrant request was made in error, please contact us within 15 days at mailto:[email protected].
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, he could attempt to take it back any time in the next 15 days.

That's unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.

ALIENGG- DO THE ACCOUNT CHANGE "BY THE BOOK". FOLLOW CORRECT PROCEDURE.

Correct!

 

[Focus]

Accept the domain, there should'nt be a further issue..I personally know a few very high ranking people at Godaddy who can be contacted if there was.

 

[Johnn]

Why take a chance? What is the problem with starting the transfer to the correct email?

Even Bob from gd would never get involve in any dispute.

Do the right thing and follow the correct procedure.

 

[victimlesscrime]

>> Why take a chance? What is the problem with starting the transfer to the correct email?
>>Even Bob from gd would never get involve in any dispute.
>>Do the right thing and follow the correct procedure.

EXACTLY!

>> there should'nt be a further issue..

The possibility that there could is enough.

I want my domain back without any messing around.

Aliengg, you were provided with all information necessary to complete the transfer according to correct godaddy procedure.

You have not done this.

I'm not going to get into WHY you have not done this.

Just follow the correct procedure and push the domain using the details that were provided.

Donnacha.

aliengg, I see you're online and browsing this thread.
Let's get this sorted out right now.

 

[AlienGG]

Petros,

You need a better translator lol. The email line really means enter your email to prevent you accidentally dropping from your internet connection not domain. Please ask a native Chinese speaker to verify that.

It is a website in a foreign language. Using Google Translator I got the following info:

The bottom of the page says "Domain name hunters, all rights reserved"

The main page consists only of the banner and navigation bar. There are only 3 links on the navigation bar. 1. Register domains(with affiliate link to now.cn) 2. Virtual host(with affiliate link to now.cn) and 3. "Rush Violence"

When I click on "Rush Violence" I go to a page with 2 input boxes.

The translator gave me this:


Please enter the domain name (the only support system. Com domain name, do not import http://) :

---input box---

Enter Email Address to prevent accidental dropping (optional) :

---input box ---

Then there is what seems to be a submit button and under it the following text: "System will first check if the fact the fact feasibility of a high success rate, and you must prepare credit cards without credit cards, Do not click on the next step"


I follow the instructions and enter a domain name and an email address, which gets me to a page with the following message:

Domain Name success rate is too low! Possible reasons for an error
1, not in the domain name registration Network Solutions
2. time is not on the domain name expired five days before
3, of the domain name registration information is not open
4, domain name format is not correct
5, Our service providers do not support the input you please re-enter the domain name after the other try. Thank you!


The first thing that strikes me is that they want you to enter a domain name and an email(to prevent accidental dropping as they say) and then they check the feasibility of catching that name.
According to the message I got at the end, an important criterion for a high success rate is that the domain name must be registered with NETSOL

The other thing they possibly check is if the email address is free, which will also increase the success rate if they are indeed hijacking the domains.

Will look into it more tomorrow, no more time today

It's virtually impossible to reverse the account change with GoDaddy.
They always reject the request by saying ICANN policy prohibits registrars from being involved in ownership dispute. I can guarantee you I will not try to reverse the account change. There is no reason to do that either. If so, there will be another big thread coming up saying whatever. I've wasted a lot of time and am not gonna waste any more.
In fact, while I initiated the accountchange, I entered all of the information you provided except with my email to retrieve the codes. The link I gave you is a agreement. Once you have read through it and accept it, click proceed, and you will get the codes immediately.

>>just accept the domain already

As the original recipient of the godaddy mail and codes etc he could subsequently file a complaint with them and attempt to take the domain back.

quoting godaddy:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If for any reason this information is incorrect or you feel this change of registrant request was made in error, please contact us within 15 days at mailto:[email protected].
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, he could attempt to take it back any time in the next 15 days.

That's unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.

ALIENGG- DO THE ACCOUNT CHANGE "BY THE BOOK". FOLLOW CORRECT PROCEDURE.

 

[victimlesscrime]

I'm not going to accept anything other than the correct procedure.
Do it by the book.
Do the push with my email so that the godaddy email/codes come directly to me.
I provided you with that email so that it could be used.
DO THE PUSH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CORRECT PROCEDURE AND STOP MESSING ABOUT.

>>>I entered all of the information you provided except with my email to retrieve the codes.>>>>

this is not correct procedure.

DO IT RIGHT.

 

[AlienGG]

There is no alternative. I will not send the transaction id and security code to you without you accepting the agreement.
This is done here. The transaction ID and security is on the second page.

 

[krossat]

there it goes again...
:violin::target:

 

[victimlesscrime]

You are in possession of a stolen domain.

You have been advised by the most authoritative lawyer that you should return it.

The domain must be returned in full accordance with godaddy procedure.

I am not authorizing an agreement on a third party URL controlled by you or anyone else.

PUSH THE DOMAIN IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH PROCEDURE.

 

[AlienGG]

There are only two ways I will send the codes directly to you without accepting the agreement.
1. I am crazy.
2. You point a loaded gun at me.

You either accept it and take the domain from me forever, or leave it and do whatever you like. I do not want to fight against you but I do need a purpose to push the domain to you.

 

[victimlesscrime]

don't pretend you are in a position to negotiate.

if you have a valid reason for refusing to follow standard procedure, post it here.

 

[AlienGG]

Haven't you read the agreement on the page I gave you? I've said everything there. Everybody knows what a settlement agreement is. There is no need to explaint any further.
Sorry, but I do not take orders. Remember that I almost gave the domain to you more than a month ago, but you sent me a C&D after I asked you to contact me again. Your threat only makes things worse.
I am NOT sending the codes out without you accepting the agreement. It's NOT gonna happen.
I've done everything of my ability to transfer the domain to you. It's done. Finished. The rest is upon you. Reversing the account change will never be your concern in this case. It will never happen.

I've seen you went on the page 3 times. The IP, timestamp etc. are recorded and will be saved for as long as the world stands.

 

[Onward]

This is really disgusting me.

I think law enforcement needs to facilitate this and due process should take place.

I am forwarding this thread on to my brother in law who is in the internet crime division of the FBI.

 

[krossat]

The only question in my mind is, why isnt AlienGG going thru the right procedure of mentioning victim's email addy so that the system can go as designed? Victim will receive a mail from GD with the steps to own the domain.
What does he stand to lose from going thru that procedure? If nothing, hes just wasting his time arguing. :worried: