Relative worth of .com, .org, .net, .biz, and .info

[dvdrip]

.biz is just a bad substitute for .com. Nothing more. It has no real use. It's also not easy to sell a .biz. It has very small recognizability outside the us. It sounds odd. Has the fewer registrations. What else?

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by dvdrip
.biz is just a bad substitute for .com. Nothing more. It has no real use. It's also not easy to sell a .biz. It has very small recognizability outside the us. It sounds odd. Has the fewer registrations. What else?

Hmmm methinks you do not understand:

"It has no real use"---Try cutting and pasting this into the Google search box: site:.biz -dscsidwnmdasjnasaijrkfdsdsn

"It's also not easy to sell a .biz"--- Ah, so the real reason you do not like .biz is because you don't think you can resell it by itself. Like I said, if you buy to resell, .biz is not a good name for you. Unless of course you have a top tier .biz name. If you are a developer trying to sell a .biz name by itself is a non-issue. Because YOU can resale a developed dot .biz site. IN the end developed sites usually fetch more money, especially if they are top-tier names.

"It has very small recognizability outside the us"--- From where I sit that is not a big issue. Most countries outside the US use their own ccTLD's anyways. I don't really forsee countries outside the US "adopting" a new gTLD as their own. Some foreign owned businesses maybe (Koreans/German businesses lead in this area), but not the average citizen.

Most people in the states at present use Dot Com. Very few have heard of dot biz let alone, dot info or any of the other country code TLDs out there. I will say this, that is changing! A local realestate guide, http://www.homejournal.biz went with the shorter.biz form of their name instead of a longer dot com version they had. I suspect that is happening more and more frequently. I don't have any data to support that, but logic says as these domains DO become more recognized a shift to a shorter domain will occur.

"It sounds odd"---Actually it probably does sound "funny" to people outside the US. More and more media outlets (in the states) are using "biz". It is becoming synonymous with electronic business. You'd have to be buried under a rock if you've never heard of the term "biz" in the US. I must admit some in the US feel that it does not sound very professional. I say to these people that "rap music" doesn't sound or look very profesional but A LOT of brands have used some of this "hip" style to sell their "professional brands". Also it's well known, slang has easily crossed over to become common terms in the english language. 'Net=Internet, "Surf=browse", "Biz=Business" -

Keep this in mind. In the old days I'm sure dot com "sounded" and "looked" funny too. I still remember thinking how "foreign" the dot com names looked. Heck it was something very new to us all. It wasn't until the "branding" machines (Amazon.com/Yahoo.com, et al) kicked in that made dot com names sound "normal". Today we really only judge the dot com name in it's entirety as to whether it "sounds" or "looks" good. TheBestBusiness.com site vs Business.com scenario.
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In the end "businesses" will make the new gTLDs popular. Even though the internet is about getting info. Businesses pay for the bills. Keep in mind ccTLD's are different than gTLD's. Let's at least agree on that. We could possibly in time segragate ourselves visa via our own ccTLDs. Making ccTLD's more popular than gTLD's. The only problem with that is dot com. The US has adopted it as it's own. Right now the US is major user of the internet.

What do businesses look for in the end: Short names. It's why our local real estate guide chose: http://www.homejournal.biz. Interestingly enough they didn't choose dot us, which is still available. In time they might. Each US business will have to make that decision: .biz/.com/.us. Since most dot coms are taken, it will come down to .biz and .us. I think that is why Godaddy is slashing it's .biz/.us prices to make it attractive for US businessess to buy both.

Again, look to see what people are doing with the new domains. I like dot biz chances as they are for businesses and it's a global tld. The global part is important. For example:

When a korean is surfing the net and sees http://www.Protection.biz in the search engines my hope is it will be looked upon as a "country neutral" site rather than a "country specific" site.

 

[dvdrip]

"It has no real use"---Try cutting and pasting this into the Google search box: site:.biz -dscsidwnmdasjnasaijrkfdsdsn

Well I think YOU don't understand. I didn't say .biz is shit.
It is still better than .tv, .bz, .fm and all those country domains.
I think it is the worst from the gtlds: .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz.
Also think it is worst from a few country domains too: .us, .co.uk, .de and maybe .eu or .cn. The future will tell on those.

Why are you giving me this google search?
To see that there are 1000000 pages with .biz?
Try .info and see.
To show me that people are using it? Of course they are! Those that can't get one of the above domains will get a .biz. But the thing is, it should be or may be their last choice.

"It's also not easy to sell a .biz"--- Ah, so the real reason you do not like .biz is because you don't think can resell it by itself. Like I said, if you buy to resell, .biz is not a good name for you. Unless of course you have a top tier .biz name. If you are a developer trying to sell a .biz name by itself is a non-issue. Because YOU can resale a developed dot .biz site. IN the end developed sites usually fetch more money, especially if they are top-tier names.

I said that you can't sell a .biz cause there are mostly resellers in here! And the case is you can't unless it is developed. And in here most appraisals are on undeveloped domains.

"It has very small recognizability outside the us"--- From where I sit that is not a big issue. Most countries outside the US use their own ccTLD's anyways. I don't really forsee countries outside the US "adopting" a new gTLD as their own. Some foreign owned businesses maybe (Koreans/German businesses lead in this area), but not the average citizen.

From where you sit there may be no issues at all. If you choose to ignore the whole world and "live" in your town that is your choice.

Most people in the states at present use Dot Com. Very few have heard of dot biz let alone, dot info or any of the other country code TLDs out there. I will say this, that is changing! A local realestate guide, http://www.homejournal.biz went with the shorter.biz form of their name instead of a longer dot com version they had. I suspect that is happening more and more frequently. I don't have any data to support that, but logic says as these domains DO become more recognized a shift to a shorter domain will occur.

I agree with that. Of course shorter domains are better.

"It sounds odd"---Actually it probably does sound "funny" to people outside the US. More and more media outlets (in the states) are using "biz". It is becoming synonymous with electronic business. You'd have to be buried under a rock if you've never heard of the term "biz" in the US. I must admit some in the US feel that it does not sound very professional. I say to these people that "rap music" doesn't sound or look very profesional but A LOT of brands have used some of this "hip" style to sell their "professional brands". Also it's well known, slang has easily crossed over to become common terms in the english language. 'Net=Internet, "Surf=browse", "Biz=Business" -

So by what you are saying and from the stats you gave earlier
you are reducing the .biz market to the us which immediately decreases the .biz value. Just think how many have never heard biz and how many have never heard info. Also Net and surf are actual dictionary words. Biz is slang maybe found in a few dictionaries.

If I had a US "Buziness" I would buy both .biz and .us(if .com.net.org were taken) but I would choose to brand .us.

Originally posted by izopod



Hmmm methinks you do not understand:

"It has no real use"---Try cutting and pasting this into the Google search box: site:.biz -dscsidwnmdasjnasaijrkfdsdsn

"It's also not easy to sell a .biz"--- Ah, so the real reason you do not like .biz is because you don't think can resell it by itself. Like I said, if you buy to resell, .biz is not a good name for you. Unless of course you have a top tier .biz name. If you are a developer trying to sell a .biz name by itself is a non-issue. Because YOU can resale a developed dot .biz site. IN the end developed sites usually fetch more money, especially if they are top-tier names.

"It has very small recognizability outside the us"--- From where I sit that is not a big issue. Most countries outside the US use their own ccTLD's anyways. I don't really forsee countries outside the US "adopting" a new gTLD as their own. Some foreign owned businesses maybe (Koreans/German businesses lead in this area), but not the average citizen.

Most people in the states at present use Dot Com. Very few have heard of dot biz let alone, dot info or any of the other country code TLDs out there. I will say this, that is changing! A local realestate guide, http://www.homejournal.biz went with the shorter.biz form of their name instead of a longer dot com version they had. I suspect that is happening more and more frequently. I don't have any data to support that, but logic says as these domains DO become more recognized a shift to a shorter domain will occur.

"It sounds odd"---Actually it probably does sound "funny" to people outside the US. More and more media outlets (in the states) are using "biz". It is becoming synonymous with electronic business. You'd have to be buried under a rock if you've never heard of the term "biz" in the US. I must admit some in the US feel that it does not sound very professional. I say to these people that "rap music" doesn't sound or look very profesional but A LOT of brands have used some of this "hip" style to sell their "professional brands". Also it's well known, slang has easily crossed over to become common terms in the english language. 'Net=Internet, "Surf=browse", "Biz=Business" -

Keep this in mind. In the old days I'm sure dot com "sounded" and "looked" funny too. I still remember thinking how "foreign" the dot com names looked. Heck it was something very new to us all. It wasn't until the "branding" machines (Amazon.com/Yahoo.com, et al) kicked in that made dot com names sound "normal". Today we really only judge the dot com name in it's entirety as to whether it "sounds" or "looks" good. TheBestBusiness.com site vs Business.com scenario.
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In the end "businesses" will make the new gTLDs popular. Even though the internet is about getting info. Businesses pay for the bills. Keep in mind ccTLD's are different than gTLD's. Let's at least agree on that. We could possibly in time segragate ourselves visa via our own ccTLDs. Making ccTLD's more popular than gTLD's. The only problem with that is dot com. The US has adopted it as it's own. Right now the US is major user of the internet.

What do businesses look for in the end: Short names. It's why our local real estate guide chose: http://www.homejournal.biz. Interestingly enough they didn't choose dot us, which is still available. In time they might. Each US business will have to make that decision: .biz/.com/.us. Since most dot coms are taken, it will come down to .biz and .us. I think that is why Godaddy is slashing it's .biz/.us prices to make it attractive for US businessess to buy both.

Again, look to see what people are doing with the new domains. I like dot biz chances as they are for businesses and it's a global tld. The global part is important. For example:

When a korean is surfing the net and sees http://www.Protection.biz in the search engines my hope is it will be looked upon as a "country neutral" site rather than a "country specific" site.

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by dvdrip

Well I think YOU don't understand. I didn't say .biz is shit.
It is still better than .tv, .bz, .fm and all those country domains.
I think it is the worst from the gtlds: .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz.
Also think it is worst from a few country domains too: .us, .co.uk, .de and maybe .eu or .cn. The future will tell on those.

Actually you said it didn't have any use, sounded funny and no one knows about it. All false. Hence my blow by blow analysis of your comments. Also from your comments you still don't understand what a ccTLD is as it relates to people who live outside a particular country. .TV/.CC/.WS would be the exceptions, but they are for a different discussion. Point being, a dot .EU is going to mean nada for me. However for someone who has the ability to register a top tier name may feel otherwise. This is in stark contrast to the gTLD's.

Originally posted by dvdrip
Why are you giving me this google search?
To see that there are 1000000 pages with .biz?
Try .info and see.
To show me that people are using it? Of course they are! Those that can't get one of the above domains will get a .biz. But the thing is, it should be or may be their last choice.

Hey if you own a lot of dot info's that is not my problem. I was giving you the ".biz" to show you that it does have use. Something you said earlier that .biz's didn't have.

Take a look at who is using them... A lot of small businesses. A good sign if you are at all familiar with economics and how businesses grow.

Also let me get this straight: You are of the opinion that most dot biz owners are people who missed out on getting the .com/.net/.org/.info version of their name, so they just "settled" on dot biz?? Yeah, that must have been a tough one to swallow when it came time to choose a name for their website address only to find the .org/.net/.info versions of their name already taken. :laugh:

Originally posted by dvdrip
I said that you can't sell a .biz cause there are mostly resellers in here! And the case is you can't unless it is developed. And in here most appraisals are on undeveloped domains.

Actually you said dot .biz was a bad TLD because you can't sell them [nothing else followed]. I was the one who said you could if they were developed. Glad you clarified yourself. Btw: Where do "appraisals" fit into our discussion. Rambling only makes your position less believable. Appraisals are about as reliable as the person who is giving them. Keep that in mind.

Furthermore, I think it's laughable to say there are ONLY resellers here. I would suggest to you that the we have a healthy mix of both resellers AND developers.

Originally posted by dvdrip
From where you sit there may be no issues at all. If you choose to ignore the whole world and "live" in your town that is your choice.

Who is "ignoring" the world. I think I succinctly put your drivels back into their respective box. You said, no one outside the US is familiar with dot biz. I said, it really doesn't matter to me as most people in the US aren't that familiar with the TLD either. IN time however they will. I also went on to let you in on a big secret: People from outside the US would be hardpressed to switch to a gTLD when most like/prefer their own ccTLDs. The default of course for some outside the US has been dot com. I went on to say that in time it's conceivable that some will default to .biz as some german/uk/korean businesses have.

Originally posted by dvdrip
So by what you are saying and from the stats you gave earlier
you are reducing the .biz market to the us which immediately decreases the .biz value. Just think how many have never heard biz and how many have never heard info. Also Net and surf are actual dictionary words. Biz is slang maybe found in a few dictionaries.

I think we should take from those stats one thing: The US has way more internet users/developers then most countries. Since the popularity of dot com has made it difficult for US businesses to get a "good" dot com name, some businesses have turned to .biz. I'm sure some will turn to .us as well. Hence the big push by Godaddy to start making .biz/.us attractive.

As far as .biz not being "valuable" because there are more registrants from the US then almost all other countries is laughable. You definitely don't understand the US market.

The US needs new domains for their businesses. Dot .Info has been primarily used as a "special project", "interesting product info" URL address. .Biz on the otherhand is being used as a "stand-a-lone" address. Those that have short memorable dot biz names will definitely have a "valuable" asset as more dot biz addresses are advertised in the media.

Oh, one more thing on this subject: Care to take a guess at how many of these people who have dot biz addresses will advertise their name??? Probably in greater #'s then all new TLDs combined. Businesses need to advertise if they want to stay in business. It's pure economics.

Originally posted by dvdrip
Also Net and surf are actual dictionary words. Biz is slang maybe found in a few dictionaries.

You again fail to see my line of reasoning. Here it is again in bold print Slang has in the past crossed over to become a common term. Since more and more media outlets (in the US) are using "biz" to mean "business", it won't be a matter of a few years before "biz" is an abbreviation to mean electronic business, rather than a slang variant of "business".

Originally posted by dvdrip
If I had a US "Buziness" I would buy both .biz and .us(if .com.net.org were taken) but I would choose to brand .us.

I doubt you'd last a month in business in the United States if you had one. Keep in mind US citizens see dot com (a gTLD) as their "ccTLD". I think that is why many have chosen to go with .biz as it is "country neutral". However I could see a day when we use dot US. But what would this matter to you. You are a reseller that buys names that will resale to others outside the US.

 

[dvdrip]

I said that .biz has no real use, meaning is just a substitute.
All new tlds have something new to offer.
.info is for information, .name for names and soon.

You yourself said it might sound funny to people outside us. SO what I said is NOT false.

I NEVER said noone knows about it. Please don't change my words.

From what you are saying do you believe that the order of the 5 domains is .com .biz .net .org .info? Where do you put .us?

Look we are discussing the value of the domains. We are not discussing the value of developed sites. So if you can't sell an undeveloped .biz then it goes to the bottom of the list.

I never said there are ONLY resellers here. I said that you can't sell a .biz cause there are mostly resellers in here! Resellers can be developers and developers can be resellers.

The US has far many internet users/developers then most countries.

Are you trying to say that the us has a bigger percentance of users or do you believe that the us has more users than the whole world. Maybe you don't understand the world market. Which is a lot bigger than the US market.

I own my companys name in .biz and I will never advertise that. I will probably use .gr for my country and .info for the world. This is because most of my customers for what I do will come from europe and the rest of the world and not the us. And I am not saying I will not have customers from the us. And what I do is not reselling. It is developing.

What you are saying about .biz becoming a common word is just a speculation. It is not a fact.

What I don't understand is that if US citizens see dot com (a gTLD) as their "ccTLD" why would they choose to go with .biz as it is "country neutral"? Why not get a us that is the real cctld?

Keep in mind that I like .us better than .biz even though I am not allowed to buy any!
I own about 5-6 .biz but don't think of develop ang those.
Well ok! I own one .us! Keep it quite!

 

[dvdrip]

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[Duke]

dvdrip & izopod - you both put a lot of time and thought into your posts. Just wanted to let you know I appreciate it. Very interesting arguments and you have both kept it civil and insightful with respect to your individual views of the new extensions. As I said early on, none of us know for sure how this will play out but I am thoroughly convinced that new name space WILL be utilized.

Millions of new small businesses will be formed in the next 5 years and I believe availability and budgetary issues will prompt many of them to adopt .info .biz or .us (if not all 3). We all have our favorites. I think .US has the best chance to win among American citizens selling primarily to the American market. .info is great for special uses. As I noted above I have not warmed up to .biz but izopod is starting to break down my resistance. At the very least I will be paying more attention to how usage of that extension develops.

 

[dvdrip]

Thanks Duke.
"I'm really quite tired".
Quote from Erin Brockovich which I just saw for the second time.

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by dvdrip
Thanks Duke.
"I'm really quite tired".
Quote from Erin Brockovich which I just saw for the second time.

Good movie. Don't remember much of the dialog, but I have a clear recollection of Julia Roberts and the wardrobe (or lack thereof) that displayed her assets so well in that film.

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by dvdrip
I said that .biz has no real use, meaning is just a substitute.

But it does have use. It's your opinion it's not a very good substitute to dot com (I assume) which is fine, however people are "substituting": http://www.dataprotection.biz. The very second people started using dot biz to promote their site they gained value and "use". Hence the reason I pointed you to Google.

Originally posted by dvdrip
All new tlds have something new to offer.
.info is for information, .name for names and soon.

Forgone conclusion.

Originally posted by dvdrip
You yourself said it might sound funny to people outside us. SO what I said is NOT false.

Did I say you said anything different. I was paraphrasing you.

Originally posted by dvdrip
I NEVER said noone knows about it. Please don't change my words.

I interpreted your comments regarding people outside the US not being familiar with dot biz as a "no brainer".

Originally posted by dvdrip
From what you are saying do you believe that the order of the 5 domains is .com .biz .net .org .info? Where do you put .us?

From (a) developer's point of view:

1) .Com 2) .Biz 3) .Net 4) .Info 5).Org

Keep in mind most developers "develop" businesses, whether they are turnkey, or for their own purposes.

Originally posted by dvdrip
Look we are discussing the value of the domains. We are not discussing the value of developed sites. So if you can't sell an undeveloped .biz then it goes to the bottom of the list.

Trust me when I say this, but I do believe undeveloped .biz names have been sold. Please don't ask me for my sources, it's a "gut instinct". As far as discussing the value of a name, I do think we are discussing it's undeveloped state as well as it's potential developed state.

If you are a good resller btw, you'd buy a name that would move. If the domain name is 8track.com it's going to score low. No developer would want this type of name (most anyways). However if you are selling the site (private transaction): Dvd.biz I think it would move. Again, something tells me this would sell just fine.

Originally posted by dvdrip
I said that you can't sell a .biz cause there are mostly resellers in here!

[izopod scratches his head]

Originally posted by dvdrip
Are you trying to say that the us has a bigger percentance of users or do you believe that the us has more users than the whole world. Maybe you don't understand the world market. Which is a lot bigger than the US market.

I'm saying we have a bigger internet population compared to the rest of the world. The fact that we have a greater share of .info/.com/.biz names registered doesn't necessarily mean we're bigger as far as the amount of sites out there. What this indicates (as I've said) we see gTLDs as our own. The ccTLD thing is not in our psyche. However (again, as I've said) dot US could make a impact in the US. Dot biz will be a big reason whether it does or not. No one can argue we have enough space in the Dot com TLD, so a natural selection process for "substitutes" will occur to get that "shorter" name. The big thing that could hurt Dot US is that it's been thoroughly picked clean by speculation. This is my current posture towards dot US (to answer a earlier question).

Originally posted by dvdrip
I own my companys name in .biz and I will never advertise that. I will probably use .gr for my country and .info for the world. This is because most of my customers for what I do will come from europe and the rest of the world and not the us. And I am not saying I will not have customers from the us. And what I do is not reselling. It is developing.

[izopod scratches his head again, this time more towards the back]

BTW: You proved my earlier (earlier) point as to the likes and general choice for domains non-us citizens have.

Originally posted by dvdrip
What you are saying about .biz becoming a common word is just a speculation. It is not a fact.

Speculation?? Who is speculating. It's a common term used on most business shows in the US. I would think if it were "True" slang it would not even make the late night news.

Originally posted by dvdrip
What I don't understand is that if US citizens see dot com (a gTLD) as their "ccTLD" why would they choose to go with .biz as it is "country neutral"? Why not get a us that is the real cctld?

I think you are misinterpreting my dot com as a "cctld" example. To residents of the US we've primarily used dot com (enmasse). We've never had access to our ccTLD until now, so we've gotten used to a TLD ending that does not specify where we're from. American's love privacy. This could change of course. We are also patriotic. In the end it will come down to do we want to be identified or do we want to blend in as our dot com names have allowed us to do.

Originally posted by dvdrip
Keep in mind that I like .us better than .biz even though I am not allowed to buy any!

Kind of like how your not supposed to sell a .biz site if it's not developed.

Well ok! I own one .us! Keep it quite!

--see above

 

[NamePopper.com]

Originally posted by Duke
Good movie. Don't remember much of the dialog, but I have a clear recollection of Julia Roberts and the wardrobe (or lack thereof) that displayed her assets so well in that film.

Alas...... at the end of the day another discussion that has moved past domains - and gotten down to what really matters - what is really important - and what we all really care about. Boobies!

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by NamePopper.com


Alas...... at the end of the day another discussion that has moved past domains - and gotten down to what really matters - what is really important - and what we all really care about. Boobies!

I'll say discussions involving "boobies" are a much better way to end the day then "@mypen--.com" suffixes --:laugh:

izopod

 

[NamePopper.com]

LOL :laugh:

(no argument there)

 

[dvdrip]

I am not going to talk about the domains stuff you said as this trully a matter of opinion.

You said:"
From (a) developer's point of view:

1) .Com 2) .Biz 3) .Net 4) .Info 5).Org"
What is your order from a speculative point of view?

What I still don't understand is what you are saying here:"I'm saying we have a bigger internet population compared to the rest of the world."

As for the slang issue you said it yourself:"Since more and more media outlets (in the US) are using "biz" to mean "business", it won't be a matter of a few years before "biz" is an abbreviation to mean electronic business, rather than a slang variant of "business"."

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by dvdrip

You said:
From (a) developer's point of view:

1) .Com 2) .Biz 3) .Net 4) .Info 5).Org"
What is your order from a speculative point of view?

I am not a "domain speculator" anymore. I gave that up long time ago. I buy domains based on their "brandability"--then I try to develop them. Case in point. I happen to like "www.protection.biz. I spent a fortune on it (j/k--$8.99 at Godaddy), however if I were given the opportunity to trade for "www.protection.us" I wouldn't do it. Same thing goes for "www.canoe.biz" vs "www.canoe.us".

note: The only thing I would .add in this list since I am a US citizen would be the dot us name:

1).Com 2) .Biz 3) .Net 4) .US 4) .Info 5) .org

Originally posted by dvdrip

What I still don't understand is what you are saying here:"I'm saying we have a bigger internet population compared to the rest of the world."

Internet Population Ranking:

http://cyberatlas.internet.com/big_picture/geographics/article/0,1323,5911_151151,00.html

1. US
2. China
3. Germany
...blah, blah blah (you get the point)

Originally posted by dvdrip

As for the slang issue you said it yourself:"Since more and more media outlets (in the US) are using "biz" to mean "business", it won't be a matter of a few years before "biz" is an abbreviation to mean electronic business, rather than a slang variant of "business"."

[izopod no longer scratching his head, now beating it against the wall]

 

[mole]

That was an interesting discussion guys

However, what people generally fail to point out is that .biz is much more meaningful in the b2b context. People erroneously compare .biz on the b2c platform without any thought, and sure .com will always command a premium in that area.

Like Duke, I have no doubt that new namespace can only grow in stature over time. It's really up to you to decide if you want to plant the grape-vines in hope of a bountiful harvest in the near future or rather just go for the wine now, today.

If you are a short-term speculator, the answer is clear. But even then, the owner of chicago.com took 8 years before deciding to sell.

Staying power is important in the new namespace game. Accept it, or sell low now and get out.

 

[dtobias]

Obviously, the purpose for which you intend to use a domain name affects the rankings of which TLDs you'd prefer to use for it. Just producing a ranked order, or numeric relative value, in absence of any contextual information is pretty much meaningless, except for speculators whose only interest is how much they could sell a name for (and even then it would depend very much on who they're trying to sell it to).

Like, if I'm planning a noncommercial, informational site, my current ranking order would be .info, .org, .us... I wouldn't even consider .com or .biz for such a use!

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by mole
However, what people generally fail to point out is that .biz is much more meaningful in the b2b context. People erroneously compare .biz on the b2c platform without any thought, and sure .com will always command a premium in that area.

I was thinking about this point last night Mole. My enterprises are B2C oriented and I realized that one of the things about .biz that I do not like is the blatant labeling of your enterprise as being all about business. Though it is very true that B2C's ARE all about business, sellers go to great lengths to portray themselves as being more interested in great customer service, the buyer being treated as a friend etc. So from that standpoint .biz sounds crass to me in a B2C context. However in a B2B context in makes perfect sense as both sides of the buying/selling equation understand what they are there for and there is none of the positioning for "appearances" that goes on in B2C.

 

[NamePopper.com]

This doesn't relate directly to domain names - but I think it has some relevance.

I've got a few young cousins and nephews - and they (and their friends) are always using the word 'biz' to describe what people do for a living. A few examples of stuff they say.....

"My dad's in the computer biz"

"My mom's in the healthcare biz"

"I want to get into the gaming biz"

"Those guys in the movie biz are rich"

And so on.....They use this word/slang all the time. It's very common for them.

Maybe an indicator of things to come with the next generation of young developers - and domain buyers? Maybe not!

I think it's interesting though - if nothing else.

 

[DomeBase]

Originally posted by NamePopper.com
This doesn't relate directly to domain names - but I think it has some relevance.

I've got a few young cousins and nephews - and they (and their friends) are always using the word 'biz' to describe what people do for a living. A few examples of stuff they say.....

"My dad's in the computer biz"

"My mom's in the healthcare biz"

"I want to get into the gaming biz"

"Those guys in the movie biz are rich"

And so on.....They use this word/slang all the time. It's very common for them.

Maybe an indicator of things to come with the next generation of young developers - and domain buyers? Maybe not!

I think it's interesting though - if nothing else.

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2328420

hot off the press.

(just trying to ingratiate myself with Mole and Izopod )