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Gotta admit the fed is pulling some crap lately. Drunken sailors are starting to look like fiscal conservatives. Yesterday they said they're pumping up the money supply another 1.15 trillion (that's $1,150,000,000,000). Further dilution of the dollar is not what we need right now. Just pray China doesn't want to cash in their chips.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=a2_HA_YKN7_k

The Fed has just stepped on the gas.

"Helicopter Ben" will really do what he has promised, namely, Drop dollar bills from a helicopter if need be, in order to avoid deflation

Congress is also losing the "political will" to continue with these bailouts. AIG is a ticking time bomb.

Death by Inflation or Deflation ?

Either way, at this point the dollar is as good as dead.

Forget being the world currency for much longer.

Expect a full fledged currency crisis.

If you have any money in CDs, Treasuries, Money Market, Cash - GET IT OUT !!!!!!

GOLD & CANNED GOODS are the way to play the next few years

Things are gonna get URGGGGGGGGLY
 
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More fear and loathing....

The dollar/euro exchange rate is lower than 2004 levels so nothing shows dollar is "dying".

Invest everything in gold? I have a pretty heavy 18k cross and that's about it.

Canned goods? Don't forget to take a bunch of vitamin C while you're munching on that mercury-enriched tuna.
 

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More fear and loathing....

Invest everything in gold? I have a pretty heavy 18k cross and that's about it.

Maybe you'll be able to barter that cross for a few days worth of groceries if your lucky

You should be buying the 10oz. bars to really protect your wealth, assuming you have any of course
 

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Sorry, my name is not Rabbi Benji Silverstein. That's my faith cross & and you can pry it from my dead, cold hands.

I suggest that you take your doomsday commentary to the upper hills of Virginia, where long bearded weirdos go to hide in the forest.

This survivalist crap does not work for me. It might work for your little circle of gold and silver hawkers.
 

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Sorry, my name is not Rabbi Benji Silverstein. That's my faith cross & and you can pry it from my dead, cold hands.

I suggest that you take your doomsday commentary to the upper hills of Virginia, where long bearded weirdos go to hide in the forest.

This survivalist crap does not work for me. It might work for your little circle of gold and silver hawkers.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/...ence-corcoran-is-this-the-end-of-america.aspx

http://ashizashiz.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-dont-know-exactly-when.html
 
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Ron Paul: Believer in small government predicts 15-year depression
By Phil Davis

Published: March 22 2009 09:07 | Last updated: March 22 2009 09:07

Pension trustees and insurance company portfolio managers look away now. Your increased commitment to government bond holdings in recent times is about to blow up spectacularly.

At least, that is the view of Ron Paul, the US congressman who ran against John McCain in last year’s Republican Party presidential nomination.

But the credibility of both western governments and their currencies is waning, and has been ever since the gold standard was abandoned in 1971, says Mr Paul. And that means even “safe” investments are far from safe, he claims.

“People will start to abandon the dollar as current and past economic policies create a steep rise in interest rates,” Mr Paul says.

“If you are in Treasuries, you will need to be watchful and nimble to time your escape.”

Unfortunately, cashing out will not protect the value of investments, he insists, because “fiat” currencies will all decline over the coming years as measures to try to haul the world economy out of recession fail. “The current stimulus measures are making things a lot worse,” says Mr Paul.

“The US government just won’t allow the correction the economy needs.” He cites the mini-depression of 1921, which lasted just a year largely because insolvent companies were allowed to fail. “No one remembers that one. They’ll remember this one, because it will last 15 years.”

At some stage – Mr Paul estimates it will be between one and four years – the dollar will implode. “The dollar as a reserve standard is done,” he says. He sees little hope for other currencies where central banks have also created too much liquidity dating right back to the early 1970s.

“Europe and the US will both have to fundamentally change their money systems,” he adds.

And don’t even mention shares to Mr Paul: “The last place you want to be is in the stock market,” he says. “It may not bottom out for 10 years – just look at Japan.”

Of course, everyone has a view on the credit crisis, its causes and putative solutions. What differentiates Mr Paul is that he has been warning of the dangers to the world economy for nearly 40 years. “The breakdown of Bretton Woods was my motivation for running for Congress. I have been talking about the dangers ever since and warning that the control by central banks over the money supply would create an enormous bubble.”

A deep recession had only been avoided up until now because of the efforts of successive governments to reflate the economy. But there are no more policy levers left, says Mr Paul. “This is the big one.”

Unsurprisingly, Mr Paul has been viewed as a crank in Washington, dismissed as a doomsayer and a party-pooper. His bill early this year to abolish the Federal Reserve was largely ignored. And his adherence to the Austrian School of economics, which predicted that fiat currencies would destabilise the world economy, has won him few friends.

“People don’t like the Austrians because they are against big government, against armies and against the welfare state. To accept Austrian economics, you have to accept limitations of credit expansion and that is what has kept the government and financial firms in business for so long.”

However, his views are, for the first time, being taken seriously in Washington. Like another politician who recently aimed for high office, Al Gore, Mr Paul’s uncomfortable truths are starting to be deliberated at elevated political levels. “Before last summer, in meetings nobody really knew I was there. Now they often defer to me on economic matters. But you won’t catch any of them admitting that publicly – not yet at least.”

He believes that markets will fall much further and inflation rise much higher before his fellow politicians recognise that the system has failed. “We are likely to see an inflation depression,” Mr Paul says.

“In the 1970s, we had stagflation, but not depression. Inflation depression is what you see in Zimbabwe.”

Even Nouriel Roubini, the renegade economist whose once “extreme” views are now mainstream, fights shy of this analysis. The investment options arising from the analysis are no more palatable. In fact, according to Mr Paul, there is only one: gold.

Such an unproductive asset (unless you are a jeweller) appears unattractive even with the gold price having risen three-fold during the Bush administration. But Mr Paul argues that the current price of about $900/ounce could look cheap in a few years.

“It is not so much that gold will go up but that fiat currencies will go down,” he says. He even advocates a return to the gold standard, which he says is not as difficult as it sounds to achieve.

Mr Paul, it should be noted, first invested in gold nearly 40 years ago when it was worth $35/ounce and holds a part of his wealth in the metal. But he is not alone: gold exchange traded commodities have seen record inflows in the past six months, most wealth managers now recommend a core holding and central banks are loath to sell their quotas. Indeed, Russia has even announced it is buying gold.

Nevertheless, most large institutions, including pension funds, have little or no gold holdings. Mr Paul argues this is a mistake and decries the widely held view that gold is an anachronism.

“Gold is natural money and has been for 6,000 years,” he says.

“You just can’t repeal those laws. A scrap of paper, which the government can just add a nought to, will not do.” He does not, though, expect the mainstream investment industry and its advisers to rush to the bullion vaults.
 

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I just bought a nice extra large freezer to keep in my garage - can store 450 lbs. of frozen food

... which will be useless without continuous electricity, which is very unlikely in civil unrest.
 

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I suggest that you take your doomsday commentary to the upper hills of Virginia, where long bearded weirdos go to hide in the forest.

Hmm...I live at the edge of the hills in Virginia. Weird, very likely as I am a domainer! No beard though and the rural spot next to me used to be a farm before it was laid out as a now defunct, house-less subdivision. The food stores near me still seem to have a decent stock of canned goods and even some fresh food too. I am unaware of anyone in my neighborhood turning to cannibalism or eating their pets yet. No new shrines to sun gods or even Scientology deities have gone up recently either. Things won't be great but we'll live.

Acro must travel is some unusual circles to know these guys. We do have a bunch of Republicans here. Maybe that's who he's talking about!
 

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No worries, lordbyron uses his own body byproducts for some eco-power!
Once he runs out of canned tuna, he'll burn gold bars.
 

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No worries, lordbyron uses his own body byproducts for some eco-power!
Once he runs out of canned tuna, he'll burn gold bars.

He already said that he doesn't only invest in gold. "Don't shit so close to the generator man, didn't you just eat a Spiderman comic?" :D
 

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"Everybody is waiting for it to hit rock bottom, so they can buy low. Which means that the people who own houses are saying, "Hey, we're losing all our damn money, and Christmas is around the corner, and I ain't gonna have no money to buy my son the G.I. Joe with the kung-fu grip! And my wife ain't gonna f... my wife ain't gonna make love to me if I got no money!" So they're panicking right now, they're screaming "SELL! SELL!" to get out before the price keeps dropping. They're panicking out there right now, I can feel it.

- Valentine (Trading Places)
 

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Bluto: See if you can guess what I am now.
[puts cottage cheese ball in his mouth and hits his cheeks with his fists and spits it out]
Bluto: I'm a zit. Get it?

~Animal House
 

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"Rooting for the Apocalypse so that you can make a quick buck on a little gold, is like Warren Buffett injected with cryogenics. It would work, but then it couldn't. Do you understand what I'm saying?... what do you mean the interview is over? I'm not going anywhere! Hey, get your fuking hands off me. Mark! Mark call my lawyer! Ahhhhhhhh! Get off me!! You're breaking my arm."

- Ronald McDonald on CNN (2006)
 
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