The newest eBay Scam to avoid fees.

[TurNIC.com]

Ok now you stopped stand-by show.

The final answer is you PAY nothing and I pay 20 something bucks to corporate america. That is simple.

If you insist that I still have to pay %1 percent of what ever the reserve is. Sorry I am not so rich to pay corporate america.

BTW stop calling cheater etc.

 

[Spider]

You are a cheater.

Mods: Can we get a custom title for SAF to replace the one he is using. Maybe something along the lines of "Admited Cheater".

 

[Bob]

Originally posted by SirAlexFerguson
Ok now you stopped stand-by show.

The final answer is you PAY nothing and I pay 20 something bucks to corporate america. That is simple.

If you insist that I still have to pay %1 percent of what ever the reserve is. Sorry I am not so rich to pay corporate america.

BTW stop calling cheater etc.

You are still cheating the system. It is not fair that I pay reserve fee listings and you are manipulating the system not not have to do that. This is DIRECTLY from the eBay pages:


Remember, an eBay auction is a legal commitment to sell your item to the highest bidder. If you receive at least one bid at or above your stated minimum price (or in the case of reserve auctions, at or above the reserve price), you are obligated to complete the transaction. A failure to do so is a breach of the User Agreement and may be legally actionable by one or more of the bidders. You have the right to cancel a transaction only under exceptional circumstances.

Following the link to what constitures exceptional circumstances, you see this:

Except for items listed in a category under the Non-binding Bid Policy, if you receive at least one bid at or above your stated minimum price (or in the case of reserve auctions, at or above the reserve price), you are obligated as the seller to complete the transaction with the highest bidder upon the auction's completion, unless there is an exceptional circumstance, such as: (a) the buyer fails to meet the terms of your listing (such as payment method), or (b) you cannot authenticate the buyer's identity.

Did I meet the terms of the listing? Yup. Was I authenticated? Yup. I have 100+ feedback and NO negatives.

Why should you be immune to paying the fees just because you "think it is worth more".

-Bob

 

[E=MC2]

Both have a point, but when you get down to it, he does what he wants and thats that, I dont think anyone has the right to judge someone else. All we can do is do the right thing ourselves.

 

[Spider]

He does what he wants and I do what I want. Right now I want to inform Ebay about this crook.

 

[Bob]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11153&item=2733201291

"The seller ended this listing early because the item was lost or broken."

:laugh:

How do you break a domain name?

"There is no transfer fee. No hidden fees. What you bid is what you pay. Grab this name"

Ended early. . .

still :laugh:

-Bob

 

[Spider]

The domain name might not be broken but the image is and the little bit of respect someone might have had for it.

 

[TurNIC.com]

Originally posted by jh3
He does what he wants and I do what I want. Right now I want to inform Ebay about this crook.

The real crook is you. **** the corporate america. Go and inform them.

I don't want to pay meaningless fees. If you want to pay go and pay, you rugby (or baseball, whatever the **** it is) player asshole. Come to Turkey and I will show you what real football is!!!

Oh by the way if any modes change anything from my title since this deepshit farts, please also delete my account as well.

This place is becoming meaningless recently, too.

SAF

 

[Spider]

I agree, delete his account.

 

[Bob]

Originally posted by SirAlexFerguson

The real crook is you. **** the corporate america. Go and inform them.

I don't want to pay meaningless fees. If you want to pay go and pay, you rugby (or baseball, whatever the **** it is) player asshole. Come to Turkey and I will show you what real football is!!!

I am a real crook for abiding by the rules? Interesting philosophy.

And what does Football have to do with selling domain names on eBay?

Oh by the way if any modes change anything from my title since this deepshit farts, please also delete my account as well.

We would not think of chaging your title unless is does not conform to the rules set forth by DNForum.

This place is becoming meaningless recently, too.

This is quite a proessional forum. Nobody seems to mind warnings when there are possible scams out on the internet. DNForum is a great place for PROFESSIONAL dealings. Are you taking exception because you do what was originally pointed out in this thread. There is not just ONE person doing it. I have seen several. I just thought I would give a friendly heads up to my fellow domainers.

SAF

BOB

 

[DNQuest.com]

Originally posted by SirAlexFerguson
Not a couple actually. It is more than 20 bucks. How much do you pay if you make $25 bid and the seller cancels the bids.

By listing an item on ebay, you are initiating a contract, when a bidder placing a bid on the item, he is accepting your terms. Valid contract with the bidder unless someone else bids higher, then they take on your terms of the contract. The Reserve protects your interest if you feel the domain is worth more. You don't want to pay, so you cheat screwing the HONEST bidder abiding by the rules.

More than once I have been affected by this tatic and each time, I notify ebay. Maybe one day, they will get off thier butts and do something about it.

 

[GT Web]

guys.... common.....

lets try and discuss this in a painless manor. Here is what I think (if anyone cares). It would be so cool to try and sell fast-autos.com on ebay at $1 no reserve, it would cost $0.30 to list and if the bids were at $150 with 20 minutes left I would simply cancel the auction... why pay for a $2000 reserve? Now....I would love to do that, but I wont, because it is not honest and not proper. If you agree to list on ebay you agree to be fair and do it by the rules. If you refuse to do this, I am not going to go complain to ebay about you SAF, you have to make a decision, either you let ebay help you sell your names and pay the fees, or you dont sell on ebay. Its that simple. Corperate America...um, thats crap and you know it, if everyone pulled this on ebay it would lead to layoffs, while trying to evade corperate america you will be hurting the online domaining community. I know you are not the only one, recently, an auction for two 3-letter .net names was cancelled at the last minute - I was winning the auction with an $8 bid, when I asked the seller why he had cancelled, he said ebay put the escrow button on the auction when he didnt want it there - so he cancelled the thing - as if I was going to complete our $8 transaction through escrow.

In conclusion, its a lot easier and cheaper to scam ebay, but domaining is built on trust, I trust 98% of the people selling domains here as well as on ebay, but it seems I no longer trust you SAF. Do you care? - probably not, should you care? yes, because if enough people get to the stage where they can't trust you - you wont be able to sell your names at all.

Just my $.02 - think about that everyone - wow, what a long post!

Anyone agree with me? disagree?

GT Web

 

[GT Web]

BTW - when NHL Rat sees this, I think DNF will have one less member...

Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, Hey, Hey, Hey, Goodbye!

 

[TurNIC.com]

Here is the auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2737762456&category=11153

And it is going to be SOLD what ever the final price would be.

SAF

 

[GT Web]

good....

 

[_Yakov_]

I also don't understand Bob.
You do what you want as long as it's allowed.
Bob, if you don't like someone or something, it doesn't mean that it's wrong or anythig is wrong with it, it only means that you don't like it. And to screem that everyone around is a crook isn't a good idea. I don't see any criteria upon which you can justify your attempt to judje others.

 

[GT Web]

but it is wrong!!!

its illegal!.....

 

[Spider]

SAF is a crook, plain and simple. He even admitted it.

 

[_Yakov_]

Originally posted by GT Web
but it is wrong!!!

its illegal!.....

Who told you it's illegal ? ... seems like you are started to make laws... :laugh:

 

[Bob]

Originally posted by _Yakov_


Who told you it's illegal ? ... seems like you are started to make laws... :laugh:

Yak - Here are two of the many rule set forth by eBay:

Remember, an eBay auction is a legal commitment to sell your item to the highest bidder. If you receive at least one bid at or above your stated minimum price (or in the case of reserve auctions, at or above the reserve price), you are obligated to complete the transaction. A failure to do so is a breach of the User Agreement and may be legally actionable by one or more of the bidders. You have the right to cancel a transaction only under exceptional circumstances.

And

Except for items listed in a category under the Non-binding Bid Policy, if you receive at least one bid at or above your stated minimum price (or in the case of reserve auctions, at or above the reserve price), you are obligated as the seller to complete the transaction with the highest bidder upon the auction's completion, unless there is an exceptional circumstance, such as: (a) the buyer fails to meet the terms of your listing (such as payment method), or (b) you cannot authenticate the buyer's identity.

Please tell me how you justify the cancelling an auction on a whim because "It did not get the price I wanted" is not a FLAGRANT violation of the rules.

1) A person bids in a no reserve auction.
2) By the rules above, the seller now has an obligation to sell the merchandise to the highest bidder, unless there is an "exceptional circumstance".

I think you would have a hard time convincing eBay that the arguement "I think it is worth more" is an exceptional circumstance.

Not only is it a fraud against eBay, but it is unethical AND unfair to the people who abide by the rules.

-Bob