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Value Of .EU Domains?????

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Phew! That's a lot info to digest. Here's my 2 cents. One, .eu is not a global domain - .com is! I also feel that europeans feel some sort of patriotism tyowards the .eu - a way to liberate themselves from the yoke of .com (which is largely american). However, people no longer view the big three as US property. They are regarded as GTLDS (that is global top level domains). And GTLDS, especially the .com, cannot be compared with a regional tld (for that's what .eu is).

Now, and this is speculation. Could it be possible that the surge in interest on the .eu and that patriotism it evokes will provoke americans to be more inclined towards the .us? To the Americans, .eu can only be compared with .us. I speculate here that .eu is going to have the opposite effect of making .us even more popular. I don't come from either of the two regions, but I can guarantee you that there will be a battle between .eu and .us - but .com is way to far ahead to entertain competion. Sorry .eu hardliners - the bubble will burst after a while (and some .eu domains will be dropped just as quick as they were regged).
 

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innomwangi said:
Could it be possible that the surge in interest on the .eu and that patriotism it evokes will provoke americans to be more inclined towards the .us? To the Americans, .eu can only be compared with .us. I speculate here that .eu is going to have the opposite effect of making .us even more popular.
Agree! I also think that news of .eu and the increased familiarity of the ccTLDs will draw additional attention to .US. Add that to the demand of the 60% of American small business that has yet to establish any significant website advertising plus the push of Google et al towards Local Search and it all bodes well for the .US extension.
 

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There are clearly a few flaws in the thinking here. As Britain is one of the biggest buyers and France and Italy amongst the fewest, it clearly has little to do with Patriatism for the EU, which is much more popular on continental Europe than in the UK.

No, it is not a competitor to dot com, but it will help to balance of the disparity in registrations in the dot com register from US citizens and companies.

Yes, it is clearly much more of a phenomenon that dot US. It managed to outstrip dot US in a single day then it is clearly much bigger!

Do I care? No, I got one that is related to my inspection business, but as I am pretty much making a living out of IDN these days, I think I will probably fold that in the near future!

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.eu might only be as popular as .int
http://europa.eu.int/

it all depends, in my opinion, on what the eu govt and the various european, governments do to promote .eu
 

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Validweb said:
.eu might only be as popular as .int
http://europa.eu.int/

it all depends, in my opinion, on what the eu govt and the various european, governments do to promote .eu

Frankly that absurd. Dot Eu had taken off, however jaundiced many of are over its launch. It first 24hrs of life have exceeded all expectations and the performance of any other launch other than dot Com. Just think how big it might have been if the job had been done properly!

Dot .int?? Actually, I had never heard of it. As a speculator in International Domain Names, that is either a damning indictment on me or the extention. You decide!

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Hi
thanks for your comment
I admire you for admitting that you never heard of .int, and it helps make my point. Many dnforum members won't be aware of .int, and dnforum members know more about domains than 99% of internet users. You have never heard of it because .int has never been promoted in any way.

There is a political component to .eu that doesn't exist for country code domains like .uk, .de, .us. There aren't many americans who don't like the usa, there aren't many british who don't like the .uk, and there aren't many germans who don't like germany. But there are a lot of europeans who don't like the european union, and any company who uses .eu for their web site will have to consider the political implications. Conversely, I am certainly aware that in other instances .eu could be advantage to .com or .uk, .fr, de, etcetera.

This thread seems to be a debate about the .eu tld, and I'd thought I'd add my 2 bits.
 

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Rubber Duck said:
Frankly that absurd. Dot Eu had taken off, however jaundiced many of are over its launch. It first 24hrs of life have exceeded all expectations and the performance of any other launch other than dot Com. Just think how big it might have been if the job had been done properly!

Dot .int?? Actually, I had never heard of it. As a speculator in International Domain Names, that is either a damning indictment on me or the extention. You decide!

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All tlds do better than .com. I doubt more than 100 people register .com when it first launched. :)
 

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According to me..

.Eu will be big considering the News on the Registry Public Website: More than 700,000 domains Registered within 4 hours EURID ..

But...Like SunRise.. Pool.com must have again taken the 80% of the above displayed figures.. News

This would be the primary reason .eu's downfall since most of them would turn out to be as Parked..

If compared to .com, a .Com domain makes more sense globally which .eu wouldnt..

If you Know the TLD Ranking as per the number of active domains

1st is .com
2nd is .de
3rd is .net

and follows the rest of the tld's and cctld's..

.EU might be able reach to the 2nd position considering the number countries it represents as European Union's cctld but will not be able to cross the .com mark..

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I think that there's going to be a lot of unhappy people in the next couple of months. The only people who will benefit from the 1 mil+ registrations are the couple of thousand top generic keywords regged in the messed up sunrise period. It will just be like the .co.in names.

History repeats itself...
 

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pkguy said:
I think that there's going to be a lot of unhappy people in the next couple of months. The only people who will benefit from the 1 mil+ registrations are the couple of thousand top generic keywords regged in the messed up sunrise period. It will just be like the .co.in names.

History repeats itself...

Sorry, I strongly disagree. I have only one pre-regged name that frankly I no longer actually need, so I have no great interest in these. The names are,however, needed and will be used. The EU is one of the World's largest unified markets, possibly third behind China and India.

The problem with the Indian market has been the mispercetion that English would dominate the Indian Internet. People have speculated on fundamentally flawed information. This is not the case with dot EU.

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.eu is around .us value but both are below .biz
 

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.eu is around .us value but both are below .biz

Totally disagree. I think the extension will be highly used in Europe. The extension has received unprecidented press coverage. Plus companies like Sedo position it in their searches right below .COMs and I think thats where its future wil remain... right behind the .COM. There is not comparison between .us .eu and .biz.
 

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.eu will be below .us.
Old companies will not promote a new domain. New companies that only target their country will use their own extension.

.eu is only for new companies that target the whole EU. And these are not a lot.
 

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dvdrip said:
.eu will be below .us.
Old companies will not promote a new domain. New companies that only target their country will use their own extension.

.eu is only for new companies that target the whole EU. And these are not a lot.

The only measure that I can see dot EU being below US is Hype Rating! Dot Eu is in on schedule to overhaul dot Biz before start of business EST. I would think by the end of the week then it will up alongside dot Info and heading for orbit!

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I think .EU ios exactly like .US, even less because each country in Europe has its own domain, but in teh US, there's only .us domain.
 

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Here are the problems I see with .eu (some have already been outlined by previous posters)

1. Availability: There has never been a new extension that has been more efficiently mined from Day 1 by big domain players rather than end-users (witness the 400+ registrars created just to increase Pool's chances of getting .eu domains, the thousands - or tens of thousands - of "fake" TM applications etc.) with over 1,250,000 domains registered within 72 hours. Net result: nothing exciting left for ordinary folk. If it's not "exciting" then why not just use .net, .info, .biz instead? What's better, a "great" .info or a "poor" .eu? (these are the kind of things that companies are going to have to ask themselves)

2. Geography: How many companies trade EU-wide but not worldwide? Can they be sure that will be true in the future too? Why not simply go with the cctld (this is where we're from) or the .com (we are global) if they're going to have to fork out a huge amount to get a decent .eu anyway?

3. Internet penetration: EU countries have some of the highest rates of internet use in the world. Most companies of any significant size already have online presences, and many have significant traffic and presence already. How many large but off-line companies are there? How many little companies are going to be able to afford the premium .eu names? Where is the growth going to come from to drive the .eu market? Ouch, there goes the resale market.

4. Language: English is not the common lingua franca of Europe, even though it may be used as such in some business contexts. Most major European companies translate their sites - ALL of the material - into 4, 5, 6+ languages since they recognize this. At the same time, companies are going to recognize their "home market" - so French companies or German companies are not going to buy domains that work in English but not in French or German. This makes domains that are the same in several (as many as possible) languages more valuable, but devalues the rest.

5. IDN: .eu is not the only "new chance" offered to European companies. If they're only trading within one country i.e. local businesses, then they can buy IDN .com domains - or at least, they can already buy them now and in the future they will be able to buy them and have anyone access them once IE7 is widespread. So suddenly you have the "perfect IDN .com" or "lousy eu" comparison for many languages which commonly use accents and other IDN-only characters (Spanish, German, French etc.)

6. User experience: seems likely that more people are going to stumble across .eu parking pages than just about any other extension. After all, over 1,200,000 domains have been registered to park (even if you generously assume the other 50,000 are "real"). That's most likely a higher parking ratio than just about any other extension, and the real figure is much worse since those 50,000 sites aren't going to build themselves overnight. So an average European reading about .eu in the Sunday papers tries half a dozen "word.eu" variants in their address bar out of curiosity, notes that ALL of them go to parking pages, and loses interest. Just another silly season idea...

7. Bad press: there has and will be a lot of column inches expended on the relative "fiasco" of the .eu launch. Non-domainers won't necessarily spend a lot of time looking for the back-story and the full details, they'll just note the issue as another "failed" idea and move on.

8. Negative connotations: many Europeans don't like the EU, and there's a % of such folk in EVERY EU country. Why risk offending them needlessly?

NOTE: the top couple of thousand or so generics are probably "immune" to all of the above, since they'll be "interesting" enough and attract enough incidental traffic to be valuable. But how many are owned by end-users? How many by individual domainers? Likely as not just about all of them are held by the same handful of big domain players, who don't typically sell or develop.
 

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I think that we should wait until the 9th of May, or "Europe Day", to see what the true value of the .eu will be. Everyone is going to have there thoughts and opinions, but nobody knows.

When the European government switches to the .eu on the 9th we will all get a better prospective on where this extension is going to go.

Total registrations as of now: 1,303,622
Total registrations before going live: 26,500

Total LIVE Registrations: 1,277,122
 

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I think we will see prices of generic .eu names to be on the same level as .com names. Simply because owners of generic names won't sell them for less.
There will probably just be less sales.
 
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