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Where would you rather live? Canada or USA?

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I think all that Pot has taken it's toll on Acquisitions brain.... They say that pot makes you paranoid and stupid, I think he's proven that today.

I'm not going to waste my time answering all the LIES and dribble he spewed in his post.. It's laughable, NO it's hilarious that he thinks I care if Canada is doing better in areas where the USA is not.. Canada could rank the highest in the world and the population would still grow at a snails pace. If it's such a great place as he makes it out to be, why is the population so low at only 33 Million? LMAO.....Like I said before, I think it's because the Weather SUCKS so much.. It's depressing, Call me spoiled but I'm used to the tropical weather, so I have NO desire at all to re-locate or even visit Canada.

As far as me stalking this low life piece of crap, That's even more laughable, Anyone can revisit the posts and see who's going after who... This all goes back to that Pot thread, He never got over that one... He thinks smoking pot, smoking crack and snorting coke is the cool thing to do, I DONT and I made it clear that drugs are for losers.. just like him.

And Yes, I'm against Gay Marriage SO WHAT?. That makes me a bigot? LMAO. The majority of Americans INCLUDING Obama are against Gay Marriage, Are they bigots to? Of course not, Acquisition will only label the people he doesn't like as bigots, This is just another one of Acquisitions desperate attempts to get back, or get even, For what I don't know... If he wants to play the Race card, I can play it by saying he's prejudice against Filipinos and Asians. Have I done that yet? No, but perhaps I should start.

Go back in this thread and look at Acquisitions first post, He posted all this exaggerated crap about Canada to 1) Poison this thread, 2) Show how Great Canada is, WHICH IT"S NOT, 3) To flame me so he can post more crap, which he has.

He intentionally went against my instructions to simply post what Country members prefer to live in.. Remember that.
 

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Though comparable in size, Canada at about 35 million people is better manageable than the US, whose population will soon approach 400 million. A bigger country will have bigger problems to deal with notwithstanding at times poor internal management and contentious brand of politics.

We'd like Canada to have 350 million people and then see how they manage their free health care, criminal justice system and appropriate use of their natural resources.

The comparison is not fair. Just as it would not be fair to compare US with Mexico or Mexico with Canada.

Canada is a beautiful country and Canadians are wonderful people. And I love the good ol' USA and Americans for the very same reason. If there is any one single more generous country than the US, I'd like to know. When Americans shine, there is no light brighter.

Let's make peace everyone. If one cannot make peace, there is no sense in posturing the goodness of self or the country one resides in.
 

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Acquisition i think you hit the nail on the head with that post....


Thanks guys.. Nice to see so many people agreeing with me.. Proven by the amount of people preferring Canada in this thread. Not that I doubted you all.. And it's nice to see people agree with true rational thought.

I pointed that out greatly in my last post in this thread.. But I am sure someone like raider who is totally brainwashed with her bigotry can't ever answer every single point I made.... I would never expect her to.. Because she is totally lost in the circle of being absolutely and totally brainwashed... And she has no rational thought processes because of that brainwashing that has worked over her mind so effectively.

Again, look at this video again, it truly shows you how totally brainwashed people like raider truly are-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

Because such closed-mindedness and incessant bigotry knows no boundaries.. As raider, and people like her, show in their ridiculous brainwashed views...

There is nothing more laughable than people like raider who espouse freedom, but let their own hate get in the way of not allowing people in their own country to have true freedom.. It's nice to see people understanding what true bigotry and hatred really is here in this thread.. And it's nice to see people understand what such despicable acts, and grotesque inhumane thought processes truly represent.


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Though comparable in size, Canada at about 35 million people is better manageable than the US, whose population will soon approach 400 million. A bigger country will have bigger problems to deal with notwithstanding at times poor internal management and contentious brand of politics.

We'd like Canada to have 350 million people and then see how they manage their free health care, criminal justice system and appropriate use of their natural resources.


Exactly, I made this point at least twice, But I was making it to a guy who's objective has nothing all to do Canada, but rather has more to do with political ideology and his hatred for the United States.

The only thing negative I said about Canada is the bad weather and their Socialist system..... Knock their Socialist system and they get all upset about it, Why? Found this article, Read on.

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Canada:

"One Really Just Society - No, Really!"


Canada's policy of trying to create a Just Society has been great for the working class Canadian. Canada has created for herself one of the strongest social safety nets in the world that ensures that no one suffers. Canada's world renowned health-care system is also source of pride for all Canadians because of the satisfaction of knowing that everyone receives equal treatment, no matter how much money they make. It is efficient and provides excellent service to everyone and does not even punish people with user fees.

The Canadian economy is a vibrant one which encourages the best and brightest to come to Canada to work, and the redistribution of wealth is a fair system between the provinces that has helped every area of the nation develop to its fullest potential. Workers in Canada also benefit from a government which actively supports labour unions.

Canadians should also be proud that their justice system values the concept of rehabilitation and human rights. On the issue of human rights, Canada boasts an exemplary Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Overall, Canada is one of the world's strongest democracies with an accountable government that is a voice for all Canadians, rich or poor.

Canada - Just another example of how Socialism WORKS!


But does it really work?


Just Society:

Pierre Trudeau started the Canadian cause for a society where no one "should be entitled to superflous or luxury goods until the essentials of life are made available to everyone", which set the tone for modern day Canada, in spite of the policy's devastatingly Socialistic after-effects.


one of the strongest social safety nets in the world:

Welfare is widely defrauded by citizens as well as new immigrants, with hard-working Canadian citizens paying for every cent. While certain provinces, such as Ontario, have taken steps to eradicate fraud (and to get capable workers back into the workforce), these policies have been widely criticized as "violations of human rights." As it stands right now, a person fully capable of working can remain on welfare for their entire life, if they so choose.


efficient and provides excellent service to everyone:

The inefficiency of government control has resulted in outrageous waiting lists for services such as cancer treatment. Waiting lists for cancer treatment are considerably longer than the American average and "the times are also longer than what radiation oncologists consider to be the medically acceptable maximum" (Fraser Institute). Furthermore, in 1999, over 120 people were removed from the coronary by-pass surgery waiting list in Ontario because they had been on it so long, they were so unhealthy that they would not survive the surgery anyway. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development has also ranked Canada low for the availability of MRI and CT scanners although Canada ranked fifth for health care costs. Similar problems plague almost every area of the system.


user fees:

The majority of Canadians choose to believe that more government funding is the answer to health care problems. Most Canadians refuse to even entertain the idea of user fees, which even Sweden has implemented as part of the answer to dealing with patients who go to the doctor for every sniffle or cough.


Canadian economy:

The Canadian rate of productivity, which is directly connected to the standard of living in a nation, continues to slow, particularly in comparison to the United States. The high Canadian tax rate discourages business growth and investment and our high level of debt (which owes great thanks to Trudeau's massive expansion of social services in 1970's) has contributed to the low value of the Canadian dollar.


best and brightest to come to Canada to work:

The chief executive of one of Canada's top high-tech companies said it best when he said, "we sure have not created an economic climate to keep our top talent ... and wealth creators here for the coming century" (John Roth, CEO of Nortel). The low value of the Canadian dollar, the ability of American companies to adequately pay for highly-skilled workers, and the high rate of taxation has led to a "brain drain." As Roth said, "the top marginal tax rate in the United States just moved from $283,000 to $285,000. Canada's top rate starts at $65,000 Canadian, or $42,000 U.S. So in Canada, you are wealthy at $42,000 U.S. In America, you're wealthy at $285,000 U.S."


redistribution of wealth:

Hardly a fair system. The provinces of Ontario and Alberta are the only net contributors to the economy of the country and are punished for this by having their wealth taken. Despite being morally wrong, this system of "taking from the rich to give to the poor" is rife with flaws. A family in Alberta with a household income of $30,000 - $40,000 will pay out over $3000 for equalization payments, while a family in the province of Newfoundland which has a household income of over $100,000 will receive over a $1000 in benefits. Furthermore, these equalization payments have not led to economic development in the areas receiving them, ensuring that the system will never end.


supports labour unions:

Canadian law has given labour unions the right to force people to join as a condition of employment, in violation of the right to freedom of association.


the concept of rehabilitation and human rights:

There is no system of consecutive sentencing in Canada, resulting in such recent cases as the five year sentence given to a man who had a large role in the 1985 Air India bombing which killed 329 people. Many Canadian police officers have become frustrated as people convicted of such crimes as break and enter are routinely let off with light probation.


Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

While the Charter seems to defend such basic rights as "freedom of expression," its preamble enshrines religious values ("Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law") rather than a separation of church and state which any free nation should have. This allows for the continued public funding of Catholic schools, which even the UN has declared is a violation of civil rights.

More important, Section 33 of the Charter has the infamous "notwithstanding clause" which allows for any provincial government to violate fundamental freedoms if they pass an act of Parliament. This has most famously occurred in Quebec to violate the rights of non-Francophones.


world's strongest democracies with an accountable government:

There is no limit to how long any Canadian politician, including the prime minister, can stay in power. The British-style Parliamentary system allows for a party to form a majority with only 40% of the popular vote. Furthermore, the West in particular does not get an adequate vote, a problem which had contributed to the Western Separation movement. In addition, Jean Chretien's 'reign' as Prime Minister has been marked by patronage appointments, scandal and corruption, in which billions of dollars have been misappropriated. He has centralized the power of Parliament within the Prime Minister's Office and maintains strict controls over his fellow Liberal Party members to prevent dissent. Amongst the critics of his government, he has been called "The Friendly Dictator." Even the leader of the Canadian citizen's group Democracy Watch, who has co-written a book with ultra-socialist Ralph Nader, does not consider Canada a democracy any longer due to the centralization of power.



Thanks guys.. Nice to see so many people agreeing with me..

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You cant possibly be surprised, I noticed most of the people agreeing with your rants are Liberal A-holes just like you, Investor? LMAO!!! Now that's funny!

Tell me, How does it feel to live in Country where you work your butt off to pay for people who dont work and live on Welfare ALL their lives?
 
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Actually the number are outdated... each "post bailout" American owes closer to $400,000. That's close to the point where the average worker can't pay the interest on his government debt, and that begins a currency collapse and quick trip to 3rd world status.

Your Canada description sorta forgets one critical element that ranks high on life quality issues: WEATHER!! A good description might be: "Vancouver is moderate but so gray and gloomy suicide rates are off the charts. Cold rain and drizzle are the norm. The middle/northern Canada is so dangerously cold nobody lives there. Southeastern Canada keeps you snowed in 10 months of the year."

So... the US is rapidly on it's way to 3rd world status, and Canada may be a top option, along with Australia and New Zealand.
 

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I was going to refrain from jumping into this debate but now I have no choice... How DARE you dis our weather...:eek:
 

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I was going to refrain from jumping into this debate but now I have no choice... How DARE you dis our weather...:eek:

I'm guessing you're from Vancouver... it's OK, put the gun down, put the pills away, and step back from the edge of the building. You'll get some vacation time soon, and you can fly to a nice warm sunny beach somewhere... your bright white skin will start looking healthy again... :)
 

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I was going to refrain from jumping into this debate but now I have no choice... How DARE you dis our weather...:eek:

With so called Global Warming, help is on its way..... :canada:

Pretty soon Vancouver will be balmy and San Diego will burn like hell. :flame:
 

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ill stay right here in Florida.. i moved south and got away from the cold grey sky that sucks the life out of you half the year. no way in hell im going further north than i was originally... sorry Canada (even though you have really good weed) ;)
 

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I am from Atlantic Canada actually... I would recommend hitting PEI in August to see just how cold it gets...
 

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I am from Atlantic Canada actually... I would recommend hitting PEI in August to see just how cold it gets...

no thanks.. ill just use weather.com for that. :lol:
 

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Socialist party (NDP) has never been able to get elected in Canada. Never even come close.

Were a just a boring, middle of the road democracy that never gets radical left or right. Maybe thats why were so successful.

Some Americans think anything left of Ronald Regan is socialism. Its just a waste of bandwidth trying to convince them otherwise.
 

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no thanks.. ill just use weather.com for that. :lol:

Seriously you don't know what you are missing...

Now in the middle of February is a different story...

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Some people can turn anything into a diatribe. I cannot believe people have time for this sh1t. Like really...
 

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Socialist party (NDP) has never been able to get elected in Canada. Never even come close.

Were a just a boring, middle of the road democracy that never gets radical left or right. Maybe thats why were so successful.

Some Americans think anything left of Ronald Regan is socialism. Its just a waste of bandwidth trying to convince them otherwise.

Good points.
The way healthcare is managed does not dictate the classification of a government...... imo
 
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