Are domainers "cybersquatters"? At NameJet, a DNF member thinks so!

[Focus]

puff puff pass :smokin:

 

[Deleted member 5660]

the rest of the close knit domain business community...

translation: a few screwballs on an Internet forum who never met each other

 

[stewie]

If anyone knows, please pm

thx

:yo:

 

[Focus]

translation: a few screwballs on an Internet forum who never met each other

Hahaha I like, I like it.......not for long though! :smilewinkgrin:

 

[ohkus]

ummm.....maybe it is my lack of understanding but why is this horrible for the domain industry?

 

[Deleted member 5660]

we better make these guys explain themselves as well:

http://markmonitor.com/

 

[Focus]

Yes, I totally agree. k:

Good man!

 

[DN BROKER]

puff puff pass :smokin:

Are you going to pass or just talk

 

[Focus]

Ohhh yeah sorry..here you go bro, my bad :hippie: :hug: :smokin:

 

[DN BROKER]

Ohhh yeah sorry..here you go bro, my bad :hippie: :hug: :smokin:

:spy: shhhhhh... dont tell whole world!

 

[Gerry]

ummm.....maybe it is my lack of understanding but why is this horrible for the domain industry?

Start at post 4.

It is a matter of circumventing the standards.

This is nothing new. But that letter that Acro posted which indicates a telephone call had taken place is certainly a new twist.

You have to keep in mind that many of these entities that would be losing their domain name are not your standard domainers.

They are businesses that rely on someone to do this domaining and website building.

That is more or less how I got involved in domains. Working at an ad agency, I was the creative director.

I regged perhaps 160 domains for a NASCAR client. We (the client and our firm) did not know much about the business of domains. We simply regged every one that was being considered as a possible business and site name.

This was late 80, early 90's - can't really recall.

But we did do a tremendous amount of the legal stuff also with TM, SM, and so on. Our firm had a law group that we worked with. Sitting in on these meetings was great as I learned a lot of TM and international trade.

Big client was RJ Reynolds.

Anyways, someone is simply taking advantage of the potential naive business. Giving them a song and dance routine about how they can save the day.

 

[RatherGood]

I don't really see how this hurts the industry "at-large" and not just tm/typo buyers.

Unethical, ruthless behavior, sure. But the vast majority of the population would probably point out that buying variations of trademarks is illegal, and this individuals actions are not necessarily so.

Examples of domain names and their associated trademarks would certainly help.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

So who is it and what is their bidder ID. Clearly this is a person to watch for and realize the name you may bid on is open to litigation. Not defending tm or typo buyers as I believe even generic names could be open to this sort of thing.

So who is it Acro?

 

[Seraphim]

I don't really see how this hurts the industry "at-large" and not just tm/typo buyers.

Unethical, ruthless behavior, sure. But the vast majority of the population would probably point out that buying variations of trademarks is illegal, and this individuals actions are not necessarily so.

Examples of domain names and their associated trademarks would certainly help.

This practice is a huge slap in the face to consumer confidence in the domain drop market, a market which most of us here participate in. When this gutter vigilante runs out of TM lemons to squeeze, we all know it's a short step away from trying to scalp shades of grey, or even pure generics (possibly that is already the case, and hence it going public).

Is this even legal?

 

[RatherGood]

This practice is a huge slap in the face to consumer confidence in the domain drop market, a market which most of us here participate in. When this gutter vigilante runs out of TM lemons to squeeze, we all know it's a short step away from trying to scalp shades of grey, or even pure generics (possibly that is already the case, and hence it going public).

Which is why I said it would be beneficial if examples were posted.

Is this even legal?

You are asking if its legal for some wingnut to point out to TM holders that people are trying to purchase names related to their trademark in order to make a profit?

Are you serious?

 

[Seraphim]

Are you serious?

I'm not a lawyer, and yes I'm serious. This individual seems to be slandering both the previous and potential owners as cybersquatters, even providing screenshots of bidders names to various third parties. I would think that could have some legal consequences, but again I'm not a lawyer. Not a legitimate enough question in your book?

 

[Theo]

Acro, do you know who the person is?

Yes.

Why, who are you, the domain industry police? Anyone can run any kind of business they want even if you don't like it.

Who are you, the scumbag's left nut?

I don't care what you think about this person's practices but where I come from I call assholes when they function as such.

The practice is unethical first and above because it characterizes other bidders as “cybersquatters” and thus tags the auction process as unlawful, whereas there is no particular decision against the domain(s) being auctioned. The guy not only sells hot air - he does not own the domains - but also interferes with the chances of other bidders to obtain and retain the domains for whatever purpose. He is not a lawyer, not a judge, just a scumbag that thinks that by approaching corporations on the safe side (since he does not own these domains) he can make a lot of cash.

 

[GUA]

Can we just cut the crap (in the politest way possible) and shout out who it is? There is no reason for the person to stop if there are no penalties as such...

 

[Theo]

Can we just cut the crap (in the politest way possible) and shout out who it is? There is no reason for the person to stop if there are no penalties as such...

Someone speculated it's Tom Clowes Well, he's not. At this time, it's pointless to reveal the name. I'd like to see our competent DNF lawyers involved in this conversation. All that I'll say at this point is that the person's from Florida.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Someone speculated it's Tom Clowes Well, he's not. At this time, it's pointless to reveal the name. I'd like to see our competent DNF lawyers involved in this conversation. All that I'll say at this point is that the person's from Florida.

Seriously you know me a bit, I dont screw around with this stuff. Spill it Acro or I am losing respect for you. Stating they are from Florida makes it a wide net with good members getting mixed in.