Are domainers "cybersquatters"? At NameJet, a DNF member thinks so!

[katherine]

That person is sure playing a dirty, silly game that could well backfire. What do we do about it ?

 

[Theo]

Seriously you know me a bit, I dont screw around with this stuff. Spill it Acro or I am losing respect for you. Stating they are from Florida makes it a wide net with good members getting mixed in.

I am from Florida as well.

This revelation started after I discovered that apparently some NameJet bidders use other people's money (see other thread). I was then contacted by a member here with the evidence I have posted. He wishes to remain anonymous.

At this point I'm waiting for the person in question to read this thread and come forward, perhaps explaining what makes us "cybersquatters" and him a corporate angel.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

Has he logged in lately ?

If so what is the time limit ?

Midnight tonight! EST

 

[Theo]

It's not a guessing game, JP. Just be aware that NameJet is now a hotbed for individuals that take screenshots of auctions and pass them on to whoever they believe they can make money off - conveniently excluding themselves from potential litigation - note the language used:

all but one of the xx pre-registered bidders clearly have designs on infringing on XXXXXXX’s mark by monetizing the domain’s valuable type-in traffic.

So now you know, if you need to **** it up for the rest of the bidders, get into a pre-release auction at NameJet, fireup USPTO.gov and do a quick tm search that loosely fits your case and call up their corporate office, then send them an email as above. Don't forget to call other bidders "cybersquatters" and pat yourself in the back for the $500 you'll safely make from the transaction.

 

[krossat]

Who are you, the scumbag's left nut?

I don't care what you think about this person's practices but where I come from I call assholes when they function as such.

The practice is unethical first and above because it characterizes other bidders as “cybersquatters” and thus tags the auction process as unlawful, whereas there is no particular decision against the domain(s) being auctioned. The guy not only sells hot air - he does not own the domains - but also interferes with the chances of other bidders to obtain and retain the domains for whatever purpose. He is not a lawyer, not a judge, just a scumbag that thinks that by approaching corporations on the safe side (since he does not own these domains) he can make a lot of cash.

Scumbag dot info On Sale Now! :lol::smilewinkgrin:

 

[Gerry]

You are asking if its legal for some wingnut to point out to TM holders that people are trying to purchase names related to their trademark in order to make a profit?

Are you serious?

There is another side(s) to this.


A. The person penning the letter is a bidder.

Knowing full well that they have a set limit.

He/she has been outbid.

Dammit, if I can't have it than no one will! could be the ploy.

So that domainer who was in on the action suddenly plays the other side.

That being the nice guy/gal by making the contact.

Suddenly, this person feels heroic for rescuing the company and saving the day.

But it is all for a self-serving purpose of screwing the other bidders.


B. The person penning the letter has intentions of bidding but does not like the risky side of purchasing a TM.

In a style rather fitting as the savior, the author of the letter is trying to determine if the TM holder has any interest whatsoever!

Imagine how many dead TM's there are! Imagine how many companies there are that go defunct, bought out, merge, or just no longer in business!

Imagine if they are no longer in business then there is no possibility of even having live links to any of the emails posted in the WHOIS!

Suddenly, there is a TM name and no one knows of cares.

No response to the letter may indicate a dead TM just not recorded at the USPTO yet.

Bottom line, after carefully reading the letter ACRO posted, again, this person knows that the whole issue and TM may be dead but its traffic is not.

So piss off everyone else. This jewel is mine!


C.Most firms are not domainers or domain savvy. That is someone else's business.

This letter is Oh, so sincere sounding.

The company is thankful and tells the domainer (posing as a good pal to the business community and will be awarded the key to the city) by all means, go ahead and get the domain.

The domainer will cut a deal to broker a fee of say 25% or so. That is all pocket change to the firm but decent cash to the domainer.


D.The domainer relates that he/she is such a good person.

"Leave everything to me. I know how this business operates and how to get the domain."

Given the okay by the firm to pursue this name, the domainer is given the go ahead and will bid on behalf of the firm.

The domainer does a marvelous job keeping the firm abreast of all the developments.

"It is currently at $15,000.00."

Next day:

"It's about to close at 20 K. Do you want it?"

Domainer gets the go ahead.

Actual bid amount is sixty five hundred dollars ($6,500.00)


E.The domainer asks the company "How much are you willing to spend to get this name?"

The firm says, "Oh, I don't know. Let's go with 25 k tops."

The elated domainer calls the company and tells firms agent, "I won with a winning bid of $22,500.00!"

The domainer then instructs the firm on where to send payment (to his account of course) so he/she can then pay for the name.

The domainer pays for the domain and then calls the firm's agent back to tell them how to transfer.

Everything is done, the domain is safe and secure with the firm, the firm is elated and the domainer is simply giddy and giggly and when he/she hangs up the phone cries out in joy, "HA HA you suckers!!!"

"I bought the damn thing for one thousand, two hundred and fifty bucks!"




If anyone is ballsy enought to try any of these schemes and they work, I want 25%.

 

[Theo]

Doc, you made it so crystal clear for everyone with domain vision problems that I think you deserve a medal

 

[Gerry]

Thanks, Theo.

To be a criminal you have to have a criminal mind!

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

So we get to know or not ?

 

[DN BROKER]

So we get to know or not ?

Silly Rabbit, Tricks are for Kids k:

 

[Seraphim]

So we get to know or not ?

Pull your pants up Beavis, he already said he's waiting for a response from the other person.

 

[BobDiGiTaL]

I can almost appreciate what this turd is trying to do.
The problem is there is already a URDP and WIPO procedure for getting TM domains.

maybe he is just trying to "cover his ass" from litigation once he wins a name, by saying "Didn't you read my letter?"

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I need a vacation.

 

[DN BROKER]

I need a vacation.

you already did!

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

No a real one

 

[katherine]

Doc, you made it so crystal clear for everyone with domain vision problems that I think you deserve a medal

Vintage Doc Sometimes I wish we could add rep on this forum :yes:

 

[DN BROKER]

Vintage Doc Sometimes I wish we could add rep on this forum :yes:

Thats why we have medals

No a real one

That person is sure playing a dirty, silly game that could well backfire. What do we do about it ?

 

[Focus]

Who the hell is it...grrrrrrr

 

[DN BROKER]

Who the hell is it...grrrrrrr

Here's a recent pic of him

 

[Focus]

Funny lmao ound:


Actually, that's just this really cool dude that gets alot of p*ssy & is a gun fanatic k: