Great news for .in and .co.in owners

[FreddyS]

I missed out on .co.in and .in

Im not going to make the same mistake on .eu

give the indian namespace a bit time. it will come!
And for the .eu I am sure the TLD will start living immdiatelly.

 

[Wot]

"The other thing with India is that very few people relatively are online yet. That means that change will not so much need to be implemented, but be present as Fact Accompli.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon"


The Indian Internet population is currently over 25 million and is expected to grow to 100 million by 2007, according to the Internet & Online Association of India (IOAI).

http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11&CountryID=61

Exciting prospects , much more so than the eu with 20 + completely different languages

 

[FreddyS]

"The other thing with India is that very few people relatively are online yet. That means that change will not so much need to be implemented, but be present as Fact Accompli.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon"


The Indian Internet population is currently over 25 million and is expected to grow to 100 million by 2007, according to the Internet & Online Association of India (IOAI).

http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11&CountryID=61

Exciting prospects , much more so than the eu with 20 + completely different languages

I agree with Dave, only 25 million and for sure not the same purchasing power like in Europe or US.

 

[Rubber Duck]

"The other thing with India is that very few people relatively are online yet. That means that change will not so much need to be implemented, but be present as Fact Accompli.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon"


The Indian Internet population is currently over 25 million and is expected to grow to 100 million by 2007, according to the Internet & Online Association of India (IOAI).

http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11&CountryID=61

Exciting prospects , much more so than the eu with 20 + completely different languages

The big differences is those 20+ countries of Europe share a the Latin Alphabet, albeit some use accents. In India you are talking different character sets from the ground up.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[Wot]

I agree with Dave, only 25 million and for sure not the same purchasing power like in Europe or US.

An expected growth of 400 % in users in the next 2 years!, I know where my money will be - is already - money where my mouth is in fact!

1 billion + potential users, as now- many of whom will use english as the main language of the Internetizen club.

EU, I have made my pre regs, but aiming mainly for simple nnn, lll, which I think will better suit the multi mix of languages all of which will be competing against established country tld's, .de, .co.uk etc , 2 sales at Sedo for .hu (Hungary) each over $2k, that will not help the .eu cause. JMO

Will nationalism overcome the eurozone ? Probably, .eu however , will probably find it's niche in the nationalistic overflow, local term not available, .com long gone - .eu may be the alternative. JMO

 

[tipsfromthetop]

Yep,

With Wot all the way on this i have also followed deeply and invested heavily in the Indian market. So so much potential with the countries growth and expected influence on the Internet with more of there businesses growing to the level of wanting to go online.

An article i read last week mentioned how so many indian businesses always sold via 3rd party company to try and influence there product. Now with the growth of the internet a lot of them are saving these costs by direct marketing via the internet themselves. This trend i can see will go through the roof in the coming years.

 

[Rubber Duck]

An expected growth of 400 % in users in the next 2 years!, I know where my money will be - is already - money where my mouth is in fact!

1 billion + potential users, as now- many of whom will use english as the main language of the Internetizen club.

EU, I have made my pre regs, but aiming mainly for simple nnn, lll, which I think will better suit the multi mix of languages all of which will be competing against established country tld's, .de, .co.uk etc , 2 sales at Sedo for .hu (Hungary) each over $2k, that will not help the .eu cause. JMO

Will nationalism overcome the eurozone ? Probably, .eu however , will probably find it's niche in the nationalistic overflow, local term not available, .com long gone - .eu may be the alternative. JMO

Unfortunately, there is no data on this as yet. There is no Indian Overture Tool. Also the Indian internet is at too early a stage to make wild extrapolations.

If the experience elsewhere holds for India, however, provided there is adequate web content (which at present there is not), then people will search predominantly in their mother tongue, which is generally not English. They will also identify with domains in their own language.

The question you need to ask is whether the Indian populaton as whole is comfortable with English as a primary means of communication?

This informed source puts English Literacy Levels at about 3%:

http://www.indianchild.com/english_in_india.htm

The truth is English is only spoken by a small but nevertheless influential minority. Is this a sound basis for your investments? Well you will have to figure that out for yourselves. My punt has been on Hindi IDN, which again only accounts for a minority, but that minority number is more than the entire population of the US.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[Wot]

See my pension at TajMahal.co.in , not an idn in "site" :shy:

 

[Rubber Duck]

See my pension at TajMahal.co.in , not an idn in "site" :shy:

Well, if you actually move to India there is a good chance it will cover the cost of living over there.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[Wot]

Well, if you actually move to India there is a good chance it will cover the cost of living over there.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

I think if I lived in India owning 200 + premium .co.in /.in I may probably live almost as well as I do in Thailand :cheeky:

Sorry TFTT we digress

 

[tipsfromthetop]

Dwrixon,

Cost to reg a .co.in = $7.95 and the cost to reg a .in = $13.95


Offers to date on .co.in and .in = mid to high $xxx

2 offers on 2 of my domains = $x,xxx each

sounds like a good investment to me. How many times is that profit??

So taking that into equation and waiting for the extensions to mature i think it is a sound investment. Sure they may not pay out $xxx,xxx or $x,xxx,xxx but when you consider i have over 70 domains and if they all pay in a year or two $x,xxx each then i can live with that

 

[Rubber Duck]

I think if I lived in India owning 200 + premium .co.in /.in I may probably live almost as well as I do in Thailand :cheeky:

Sorry TFTT we digress

Do you have any recent registration stats from dot in? I suspect that the trend in China and Japan for the top level domain to supercede the existing extension will also tend to follow here. I know UK is still dominate by .co.uk but that is because .uk is currently reserved for central government. Indeed I have only ever seen www.parliament.uk.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[tipsfromthetop]

Dwatson,

I am from England and my main business is a Design/hosting/registrant. I have an Business account with Nominet the UK governing body for the .co.uk, .uk etc extensions. There will never be any plans to release the .uk domain to the general public it is reserved only for Govenment. I have asked many times, shame but thats the law over here.

 

[alex_d]

Can I just ask which extension you guys think is better ??

.co.in

or

.in

???

Thanks

Alex

 

[Rubber Duck]

Can I just ask which extension you guys think is better ??

.co.in

or

.in

???

Thanks

Alex

Short-term not much to choose between the two. Longer-term I think the Chinese experience where .cn has outstripped .com.cn is valid. I think second level will always prevail over third level.

I think you need to wary of India though. The current presumption is that India is a predominantly English speaking language. Whilst that may be true of the High Tech community it is definitely not true of the nation as whole.

The main risk comes from the likely acceptance of additional TLDs to cover the main local language groups. I believe IDN will have a huge part to play in the Indian market. For more information on IDN please visits:

www. IDNForums.com

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[tipsfromthetop]

Alex,

currently the .co.in is more popular, the .in will catch up in time. You can either listen to Mr watson or take the advice of myself, WoT and so many other investors over many forums in respect to the good investment potential the Indian market has.

How will the idnforums have an influence on the international domains with only 50 posts total? Sorry there are huge domain forums like this Npros and gcommunity etc that have thousands of users. Also self advertising in my post is not very cool and frowned upon by admin.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Alex,

currently the .co.in is more popular, the .in will catch up in time. You can either listen to Mr watson or take the advice of myself, WoT and so many other investors over many forums in respect to the good investment potential the Indian market has.

I never questioned the potential of Indian domain market, I agree it is huge. What is at issue is the best way to tap into the potential. Obviously, the most registrations that are not gTLDs, which probably still account for the Lion's share of registrations, are currently .co.in. That is an inescapable fact. It is the case because it was the only ccTLD in town, until .in arrived. IDN are not currently a feature of these registeries because they are not supported.

Most of the current content on Indian Websites is in English. No argument, but that is because alternative options have not been available. Unicode character sets have only just been established for numerous different alphabets that are used in India.

These character sets will be used because most Indians are unable to read or write with anything else. The internet will be searched using these character sets. Searches using these character sets will become the most commerically significant. Ultimately, the question of incorporating relevant indexing of domains into Search Engine algorythms, will become an issue. SEO will ultimately require the use of IDN domains.

You tell us you have the experience and the knowledge about these markets. OK, start defending your position with some cogent arguments.

By the way, I hope your more careful registering domain names than you have been in transposing mine, otherwise your portfolio is likely to be completely worthless!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[tipsfromthetop]

D.Watson,

At know time did i attack you i asked a genuine question how your site was going to affect the int domains. I like on topic discussion and enjoy your posts, it is good to have a different view. Hense why i mentioned to alex take your view or others.

Sorry if it came across negative, it was not my intension. We are all professionals

 

[Rubber Duck]

D.Watson,

At know time did i attack you i asked a genuine question how your site was going to affect the int domains. I like on topic discussion and enjoy your posts, it is good to have a different view. Hense why i mentioned to alex take your view or others.

Sorry if it came across negative, it was not my intension. We are all professionals

Sorry, must be grumpy this morning.

Interestingly, I have looked the big three search engines and they are all using co.in addresses still rather than in. This contrast with situation in Far East where they are all on second level addresses.

Google are offering interface in English, Hindi, Bengali, Telugu, Marathi and Tamil. By contrast Yahoo and MSN have yet to make any concessions to local languages.

It will be interesting to see who wins the race for market share. I know where I would put my money.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[johannez]

Sorry, must be grumpy this morning.

Interestingly, I have looked the big three search engines and they are all using co.in addresses still rather than in. This contrast with situation in Far East where they are all on second level addresses.
Dave Wrixon

The statistical tendency we can see at http://www.indomains.net is that .in is the major domain registered at our site.

The amount of registered.co.in is about 50% (half) compared with the amount of registered .in domains.

All the rest of the extensions is 10% compared with .in registrations.

We are doing more than 1% and less than 100% of all worlwide registrations

Cheers