is parked better than sedo?

[Duckinla]

This is not the first thread that has led me to the conclusion that Yahoo is very focused on conversion rates. And this is costing the publishers (us). That would be why multiple clicks are getting canceled. They seem to think they have a right to arbitrarily cancel clicks. I don't use any services with yahoo and have never heard about conversion rates in regards to my domains. I would suggest getting away from anyone using the Yahoo feed until this gets sorted out.

 

[Focus]

some good points being raised imo...

 

[Gerry]

Here is the history of my nearly seven year old NBA site that advertisers refused to pay Parked for that Parked refused to pay me for and subsequently canceled all clicks.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bleachermob.com

I wonder how many of those advertisers listed are the same making the refusal?

That's okay. I think I'll just go ahead and resurrect this site even though I am not an NBA fan (love college hoops!) and use the same format and advertisers.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050818223754/p074.ezboard.com/bthebleachermob
1086 registered members

Yup, all bots...the registered members are all bots. No legitimate traffic.

I'm coming!!! Hang in there. I'll give you back your forum!

You silly bots...clicks are for Trolls.

 

[Focus]

If you build it they will come.

 

[Duckinla]

I think Yahoo's strategy is to become known to advertisers as the provider of "Premium" clicks. This will cost domainers a lot of lost revenue in the meantime. They probably figure that advertiser dollars are limited while clicks are readily available. Domainers should stake their claim in this situation by refusing to provide clicks to Yahoo.

 

[Gerry]

If you build it they will come.

Seriously...I think you are right. The fans are the ones searching for their site and their forum. I should have taken this right back to a website but got sidetracked on so many other projects.

 

[Focus]

I think Yahoo's strategy is to become known to advertisers as the provider of "Premium" clicks. This will cost domainers a lot of lost revenue in the meantime. They probably figure that advertiser dollars are limited while clicks are readily available. Domainers should stake their claim in this situation by refusing to provide clicks to Yahoo.

The other side of the coin is higher paid clicks for good traffic and quality domains...

 

[1112]

The other side of the coin is higher paid clicks for good traffic and quality domains...

Hello Focus, which one do you work for? parked or yahoo, just wondering

 

[Focus]

me? work? hahahahahahahahahaha now that is funny. :laugh:
I VOW to never "work" again...

 

[Duckinla]

The other side of the coin is higher paid clicks for good traffic and quality domains...

Definitely true. But it could be years before they reach the point of being able to charge substantially more. The cost to domainers in the meantime would be significant. I would rather they get there on someone elses clicks and get paid in full for mine while they are getting there.

 

[Gerry]

...good traffic and quality domains...

I would say a seven year old website with an established forum is a good traffic and quality domain.

I hope to have it back up and running in less than a week if I can pull the right folks together.

LEO!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Focus]

For me, google pays .04 a click for a disney typo (several) that yahoo feeds pay .50 - 1.00+ per click for...so figure that out...

 

[Donny Simonton]

Since the original query of this thread was "is parked better than sedo?", not whether bleachmob.com still has traffic 7 years later or if Focus should go get a real job or whether Acroplex is the troll on the right or the left, it was a simple question comparing Parked.com to Sedo.

Parked.com uses a Yahoo and an Ask feed which is basically a Google (AFS) feed. By default domains go to a 2 click/lander page. But about 20-30% of them go to a 1 click/direct to results page. Neither feed has smart pricing.

Sedo uses a Google (AFD) feed. Which is 1 click, but in certain cases you can make it 2 click. Has smartpricing, which is the process of determine the value of where the click is coming from and discounting the amount the advertiser pays based on that information. In the past this used to be based on the overall feed, so crappy traffic from one domain could effect over 200,000 domains. But I have been told that it's now on a userlevel, but I can't verify this. So if a click is $1.00 and your user account value is only 50% based on previous conversions, the advertiser would only pay $0.50 for the click not a $1.00 and then Sedo would get their share of the $0.50.

Parked.com uses an estimate for today's numbers just to give you a estimate of what you are making today. We found that people want to have some idea on what they are making, it's not 100% accurate and sometimes can be manipulated by certain bots, but it will give you a good estimate on how you are doing for today and it is updated every 15 minutes. Tomorrow when we get our numbers from our different providers we combine the numbers and replace the estimates from yesterday with the final numbers from our providers. We pay based on what our providers tell us you earned for the previous day. So if our estimates said you had 5 clicks and $20.00 and our providers say 0 clicks and $0.00 that's what we pay you. The same goes for the opposite if we say you had 1 vistor and 50 clicks and we don't think they 50 clicks are real, and our providers tell us they paid for 50 clicks, we will pay you for 50 clicks. No questions asked. If the advertiser is paying for a click, that means we will be paid, which means we will pay you.

Sedo does get domain level reporting on their domains, but they use it for estimating stats in the future, not paying you on a domain level. So an hour and 15 minutes after an hour is over Sedo crunches all of the data and shows you what you will be paid based on historical information they have collected over time. So if they tell you that you had 5 clicks and $12.00 so far today, that is what you should be paid on. That does not mean that's what they are getting paid, because they don't count more than 1 click per search. Depending on the volume of traffic you have your smartpricing will vary for the first week or so, then it should level out. If their finalized numbers were too high for yesterday, they will lower your precentage today to try and make up the difference. This information may not be 100% accurate, but this is what I remember when I talked to them last time about this.

Parked currently has 3,386 templates. We are adding about 50-75 new ones per day. Currently you can't choose all of them, but next week you will be able to choose any of the templates.

I can't remember exactly how many templates Sedo offers right now, I think it was around 75-100. My account doesn't allow me view the templates.

Parked allows you to choose keywords and it's approved immeditately.

Sedo allows you to choose keywords, but their is a 24 hour wait for them to be approved, unless it's the weekend and it's a little longer then.

Both programs are very good, I have no reason to bash Sedo or even complain about them. I even have a Sedo ipod they gave me for being such a good customer. We do still send some traffic to Sedo ourselves, I won't really say why because you would laugh. But I think each company has their own niche in the parking business.

I hope this helps explain the original question.

Donny

 

[LucidPhoenix]

My point has been made.

I wish I had the luxury of spending my days trolling on message boards.

 

[Theo]

My point has been made.

I wish I had the luxury of spending my days trolling on message boards.

No, your message was the equivalent of a stink bomb: drop one and run.

I've been more than fair in my comparison of Parked vs Sedo and the fact that I moved back to Sedo says it all.

 

[Gerry]

My point has been made.

I wish I had the luxury of spending my days trolling on message boards.

Darling, you made my point.

You are doing exactly what you say you are not doing. You are trolling the message boards.

You are dropping in on a thread, adding a comment about who is making comments, yet not adding to the topic or discussion.

You, dear, are defining trolling as it truly is.

 

[Focus]

If there were only two parking companies on some remote island and I had to pick the one to stick with for good there is no doubt it would be parked.com, I think it's very revealing of Donny to give so many of us so much insight into what goes on behind the scenes and discuss these issues with us privately in an almost "VIP Acess" type manner...when was the last time the owners of sedo sat around our campfire and explained the innermost workings of their ppc program and who what where when and why?
I think for current features, future expansion and longevity of simply DOMAIN PPC you really won't find many better than parked.com, and definitely better than sedo for me personally...add to the fact there is no "smart pricing" in place as Donny mentioned and you can be assured that many domains will do much better at parked. You can easily sign up right below this sentence too. :smile:

 

[David G]

......You can easily sign up right below this sentence too. :smile:

Is it OK to promote your affiliate program in posts? Just wondering if it abides by the rules, or are Exclusives authorized?

 

[Theo]

Dave, it's another perk Exclusives get Affiliate ids are ok. I think I will promote Greg's house for sale

 

[Gerry]

Dave, it's another perk Exclusives get Affiliate ids are ok. I think I will promote Greg's house for sale

And I'll promote the little troll dolls you are making. Cute dress. Love that fuzzy tail.