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[Togoodhlth]

figure it out einstein

Player what's your issue? Have some respect for the other members even if you have no respect for yourself.
Having a bad attitude and acting like a punk (guessing your a kid?) is not going to get you very far in this business or any other.
If you have something worthwhile to add then add it but if you are just posting to stir the pot then go to a video game forum or something.

 

[Player]

I never had my fruitloops that morning.

 

[Togoodhlth]

I never had my fruitloops that morning.

LOL, ok that was funny as hell!
I mean before it was censored.

 

[denny007]

Just want to add to this story, how about the $350 I paid to the skyp.com scammer for "transfer fees" - after almost 1 month Paypal closed the dispute and left the $350 to this crook. Learn from my mistakes: NEVER EVER use Paypal for payments over let's say $100 to person You do not know. Paypal dispute will not help - they will pay to the scummers anyway. Because it is intangible goods. In this case Paypal believed the scummer, that I "downloaded" the domain...

Here some keywords for search engines, if the skyp.com scum wants cheat more people, they can find this and do not be f*cked:
skyp.com scam fraud cheater cheating cheat Alfreda Dejardin Decraene Benjamin 950, chaussee de Waterloo 59800 Lille virtuose.fr virtuose.be more domains this crook owns: hotels.vu loui.com kulturell.com sabryna.com euroluxe.com verlaine.com sarbacane.com paris.vu u2b.com r8k.com domainezoo.com tel. +33 4 73 20 33 10

 

[Mr. Deleted]

In this case Paypal believed the scummer, that I "downloaded" the domain...

roflmao!

I'd like to know how they think you can do that!

 

[proproject]

Denny, sorry to hear that. We were recently ripped off for thousands by some folks using stolen credit cards. I've often wished we could form a global network of "friends with baseball bats" to help people collect what is owed to them by coward Internet thiefs.

In this case you could have been protected because you were already using an escrow service for the transaction. Next time just make all monies sent to the seller part of the escrow transaction. If the transaction does not complete, you get back every penny, no fees deducted. And we will customize the transaction for no additional fee for minor changes like this.

 

[namestrands]

friendswithbaseballbats.com is available.. ;-P

 

[denny007]

The scamming people does not realise, everything they do they will get back. Action-reaction, known from physics, but it works for everything. I.e. buddhists know that very well...so the "baseball bats" would not work as good as the fate will.

What I paid was for me and everybody else reading it here now to realize: once You pay for domains via Paypal, there is NO WAY to get it back.

But if somebody wants to make some "virtual bat beating", can go to skyp.com, click on "[font=arial,sans-serif]Ads by Goooooogle" and complain, that it is some "fake skype.com site or what, some scam - I wonder why Google make advertisement at such site" Anyway, this guy is breaking several Adsense Tos: no parking allowed, page done entirely for purpose serving Adsense ad and one more I forgot...[/font]

Actually my honesty paid off in this case - this scammer was going for more, I could have loose $3.5K easily, he was quite convincing...

Denny, sorry to hear that. We were recently ripped off for thousands by some folks using stolen credit cards. I've often wished we could form a global network of "friends with baseball bats" to help people collect what is owed to them by coward Internet thiefs.

In this case you could have been protected because you were already using an escrow service for the transaction. Next time just make all monies sent to the seller part of the escrow transaction. If the transaction does not complete, you get back every penny, no fees deducted. And we will customize the transaction for no additional fee for minor changes like this.

 

[sevent]

click on "[font=arial,sans-serif]Ads by Goooooogle" and complain

I did my part and filed a complaint

 

[denny007]

I did my part and filed a complaint

Thanks BTW I found the third rule-breaking: pop-up on a page with Google ad is a big no-no...

 

[toho]

Roger,

You should read this thread and checking your member.

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?p=584485

http://www.afternic.com/name.php?id=634249

In this case you could have been protected because you were already using an escrow service for the transaction. Next time just make all monies sent to the seller part of the escrow transaction. If the transaction does not complete, you get back every penny, no fees deducted. And we will customize the transaction for no additional fee for minor changes like this.

I have one question.

If someone buy domain in your site (AfterNIC.com) and use DNEscrow.com,
Buyer paid all fees, and domain transfer has been completed.
But 2 weeks later, "That is stolen domain" someone said and NSI (example) take away from buyer's account to real owner's account without any notification to buyer.
Buyer lost domain.
Of cause he/she lost all money for this transaction fees too.

This case,AfterNIC refunds DNEscrow fees (10%) to buyer ? or not ?

You should write here clearly for AfterNIC users.


Thank you.


toho

 

[Kase]

That's rough, dude. Sorry to hear that.

 

[denny007]

One must love the Adsense - someone mentioned baseball bats and now all the ads here are baseball related...must be more expansive KW than domains than

 

[Auction]

I just wrote up a response that I accidently deleted. I'll write a shorter more to the point response. I bought skyp.com after seeing it advertised on ebay. I paid via Escrow.com. The adsense codes were changed to mine while I got an idea of traffic/revenue. I got confirmation of the transfer via Registerfly and let Escrow release the payment. I went in a couple days later and tried changing the nameservers (I was going to take down the site that was up). No idea how yet, but the domain was at a different registrar. He still hasn't bothered to change the adsense codes back so I see now from the above posts I guess I have been reported quite a few times. I'm unclear on what the violations are, but hopefully I can work this out with Google. I quickly contacted them after reading this and the violations there may be. I was hoping to recoup my losses since he was to lazy to change the publisher ads back. Hopefully, I can get things worked out somehow.

 

[seeker]

do you own the domain or have just access to the google adsense on it???

 

[denny007]

I am affraid you has been scummed. I would be surprised, if this stinky croook would give out his only valuable domain, which he uses to scam people. Wasit already in Your RF account ? If yes, how he managed to transfer it to some "Key-systems" registrar ? I am sure before you released the paymen, You checked You RF account, changed the emails and contacts and locked it,. didn't You ?If yes, there owuld be necessary investiigation, if not, I am curious HOW could he fool You...

BTW the page is now breaking 3 Adsesnse TOS: it has a pop-up, it is parking page and it is crated only for purpose of Adsense ad.

I just wrote up a response that I accidently deleted. I'll write a shorter more to the point response. I bought skyp.com after seeing it advertised on ebay. I paid via Escrow.com. The adsense codes were changed to mine while I got an idea of traffic/revenue. I got confirmation of the transfer via Registerfly and let Escrow release the payment. I went in a couple days later and tried changing the nameservers (I was going to take down the site that was up). No idea how yet, but the domain was at a different registrar. He still hasn't bothered to change the adsense codes back so I see now from the above posts I guess I have been reported quite a few times. I'm unclear on what the violations are, but hopefully I can work this out with Google. I quickly contacted them after reading this and the violations there may be. I was hoping to recoup my losses since he was to lazy to change the publisher ads back. Hopefully, I can get things worked out somehow.

 

[Auction]

I got an email confirmation from Registerfly that the domain was pushed to my Registerfly. I unlocked it to change the nameservers. I called Registerfly as soon as I found out the domain was with DD24. Registerfly seemed like they were completely in the dark. I don't think they have a clue what happened.

 

[Jeanco]

Seems like this guy is fairly good at what he does. Best of Luck.

 

[Togoodhlth]

Maybe the thief forged the email headers etc so you would believe it had been pushed. This would be risky on his/her part but I guess it was worth a shot in his/her mind.
Otherwise not sure how it was pushed to you but not really pushed to you?

Strange. Let us know how you made out?

 

[toho]

I asked AfterNIC.com, but no answer.

That is OK. AfterNIC charge 10% fees for thier services if you bought stolen domains and lost it.

We compare a service with a price, and choose a company.

AfterNIC doing focus in the domain business.
But they do not care handling stole products and take 10% of the commissions are secured.

Completely, buyer's responsibility.
Takes 10% fees.
No risk, high commission.
Great business.

Roger,

I have one question.

If someone buy domain in your site (AfterNIC.com) and use DNEscrow.com,
Buyer paid all fees, and domain transfer has been completed.
But 2 weeks later, "That is stolen domain" someone said and NSI (example) take away from buyer's account to real owner's account without any notification to buyer.
Buyer lost domain.
Of cause he/she lost all money for this transaction fees too.

This case,AfterNIC refunds DNEscrow fees (10%) to buyer ? or not ?

You should write here clearly for AfterNIC users.

The purchase of the stolen domain risk increases recently.
It is a big problem for us.
I wanted to hear to the opinion of the AfterNIC about this matter.
But, it seems to be that it isn't interested to them.


We compare a service with a price, and choose a company.


A worthless advertisement is seen well at DNF Domain Brokerage section.
http://www.dnforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=118

It seems to be busier with the advertisement than a client service.



toho