Time for the people to speak...

[cyphix]

I agree with webcat, I like being able to bump a thread & absoloutley hate the way it is @ WHT.

It would be impossible to run an auction that way, people wouldn't wanna risk no-one seeing there threads since it would be buried within half a day.

 

[wyvern]

By creating the bank and setting DNF$ price at 1 cent each, you devalued the holdings of everyone. Before that, several members had spent time and money maintaining a market and at least one member even offered to revive the old exchange, though they were quickly shot down as not having an "official" sanction.

Bring back the old free-floating exchange, rather than the bank.

 

[WebCat]

Originally posted by cyphix
I agree with webcat, I like being able to bump a thread & absoloutley hate the way it is @ WHT.

It would be impossible to run an auction that way, people wouldn't wanna risk no-one seeing there threads since it would be buried within half a day.

Or another way of saying it... "If it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT!"

 

[WebCat]

Originally posted by wyvern
By creating the bank and setting DNF$ price at 1 cent each, you devalued the holdings of everyone. Before that, several members had spent time and money maintaining a market and at least one member even offered to revive the old exchange, though they were quickly shot down as not having an "official" sanction.

Bring back the old free-floating exchange, rather than the bank.

And the ever popular.... " if it IS BROKE, FIX IT! (please)"

It used to be fun trading and haggling over DNF$! And imagine what it could mean as they increase in value! wyvern will become a DNF$ Millionaire!

 

[beatz]

My 2 cents:

- DON'T bring retail buyers here.Will water down the whole forum and the idea behind it.Everybody should be able to find their retail buyers themselves.This has never been the purpose of this forum.It will just result in your "retail" buyers turning into domain newbies and after a while you won't be able to recognize who is a retail buyer and who is not - which means sales will go for reseller prices just like before.

- I also don't think it's a good idea to prevent people from bumping threads.That's one of the things that are most annoying over at WHT.

- I highly recommend before implementing any changes, to make a poll or anything like that to have more than just a few peoples opinions.I mean, how can you implement a change just because 4 or 5 people have voted on a thread while membership here is more than 1000 members ?

 

[Tippy]

I am strongly against the WHT style of not being able to bump threads.

Mike

 

[SlashRoot.Com]

Originally posted by Tippy
I am strongly against the WHT style of not being able to bump threads.

Mike

hear hear...

There has to be a better way to keep active threads sales/auctions on the top of stale threads. Drowning them under threads that have no interest/activity does not sound like a good idea.

There may be a need to curtail outbreak of bumps, but ordering threads just based on its Age (ordered by timestamp alone) sounds so..................old-fashioned.

On the subject of Retail Buyers, Partnering with WHT, etc.
Might be good avenues to explore. However, anything that dilutes the focus from being a professional Domain Name Forum could be counter productive. If one continues along horizontal progression across subject areas, DNF could certainly become mother of all fora, but may spread too thin, causing the depth of its content to be dangerously shallow. I read a saying somewhere that said something like: If you want to dig a Well, continue to dig in one or two select places. If you do it in 1000 places, you may have one thousand holes in the ground, one foot deep, but no water. I would sure hate to see this nice forum lose its focus and become just another hang out place for noobee.

just my 2c

 

[A D]

The following suggestions have been implemented:

1- Now when a thread is closed the reason will appear at the top of the thread.

2- A user can post once in the sales thread per day.

3- When someone replies to a post in the sales thread it will not move to the top, simply put no bumping in sales thread only.

more to come.

-=DCG=-

 

[mole]

Originally posted by DotComGod
more to come.

Unban coolhost and zouzas? :-D

 

[A D]

Mole,

I have no issues with unbanning any users that will respect this place.

If you or anyone else are in contact with them, you can ask them if they want to come back.

They can email me if they wish [email protected].

I don't need any apologies, just their desire to be a part of this place.

There are huge development plans for this place in the near future and it would be a shame for anyone to miss them.

-=DCG=-

 

[A D]

to be clearer....

The following suggestions have been implemented:

1- Now when a thread is closed the reason will appear at the top of the thread.

2- A user can post a new thread only once in the sales thread per day( per 24 hours ). Replies can be posted as much as you like.

3- When someone replies to a post in the sales thread it will not move to the top, simply put no bumping in sales thread only.

-=DCG=-

 

[DotLeader]

Originally posted by DotComGod
The following suggestions have been implemented:


3- When someone replies to a post in the sales thread it will not move to the top, simply put no bumping in sales thread only.

-=DCG=-

EWWW

cant you make it so when the thread starter posts it doesnt bump? or find a hack for VB as i absolutly HATE that way

 

[Tippy]

I think #3 stinks as well, but who am I anyways.

Mike

 

[beatz]

Wow not even allowing the thread to be bumped by other posters than the originator himself is bad.

Again, i really recommend to ask more than 4 or 5 members opinions before implementing a new rule/feature/whatever.

Makes more sense than steadily confusing members by changing stuff they are used to without having asked their opinion before.

Although i know intentions are good, sometimes its just better to wait a little bit longer before implementing new things so you really can be sure about what you are doing.

In this case, i think it is a VERY bad idea sales threads cannot be bumped anymore no matter what.

Also - don't overdo it with these "improvements"...if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Why the hurry anyway ?

 

[A D]

Beatz and others,

I respect your opinions and will watch what happens over the next day if most hate it, it will change.

thanks again for your input.

-=DCG=-

 

[Leading Names]

I don’t like the new no bumping policy in sales threads,

What happens when you’re running and auction? I think people are going to want to know when there’s five minutes left etc. With this new policy important sales deadlines will be missed. What happens when genuine updates are made such as price cuts; I think people will want to know? Know ones going to bother to go through threads three pages deep checking for these updates?

I think on the whole admin and mods do a great job but in my opinion I think this is a big mistake. Would it not be better just to add restrictions on how often you can bump, say every three hours or what ever.

As I say this is just my take on things, other member may think differently, why not run a poll and find out.

Thanks
Rob

 

[SlashRoot.Com]

Originally posted by Tippy
I think #3 stinks as well, but who am I anyways.

Mike

My exact sentiments. :angry:

There has to be a better way to contain bumps epidemic... d

 

[A D]

ok, relooking at it now.

-=DCG=-

 

[beatz]

May i again recommend to give each planned change another thought before you implement them, and may i again recommend to make some sort of *highly visible* poll about important changes BEFORE implementing them ?

Again, quick changes without having asked the members *majority's* opinion and without proper research and afterthought only leads to confusion.

Please take the time these kind of changes need, Adam.

 

[SlashRoot.Com]

Originally posted by DotComGod
ok, relooking at it now.

-=DCG=-

Thanks DCG!

I am heading over to VB hacks archives to see if there is somethere there that we could use to deal with Bumps in a better way.

It would be real nice if those that would like to have this done better also invest some time to dig through to VB archives to explore better ways to implement this.

On a second thought, there might be a way to deal with this in a completely different way.

How about extending DNF AUP to include a statement on what wil be Acceptable and Unacceptable Bump behavior, and then enforcing the revised AUP.

For example, what if DNF were to constitute a fine (say, DNF$25) per incident for repeat Bump offenders. Don't shoot me, I am just thinking aloud!

I see a genuine need for people to bump a thread to reflect price changes, bid updates, etc. It may be a real bad idea to ban those. However, if DNF AUP were to clearly spell out acceptable and unacceptable bumps, those who willingly engage in unsafe Bump practices, pay DNF$25/incident to a common DNFBucks kitty or something. If everyone want me to safe-guard those DNFbucks, I will be glad to watch-dog your kitty! I promise, I will be a good Watch-Dog! By the end of the year, we may have enough DNFBucks in there for a great New Year Eve Party!

I really think a procedural solutions might be better in this case than a programmatic fix. Just like every social problem does not call for a government pork-barrel program, every policy related issues does not have to call for a extreme programming marathon.

Ok, everybody, let's pull away from the keyboard for one minute and think about this... Ok, I am back at my keyboard back now.

JMHO, trying to think out side the box...