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[Donny Simonton]

Acroplex - How many people read or care about the html source code? I know I only use it when I am trying to hack/borrow something. Since you consider the term "clickfraud" to be offensive and you don't even use Parked.com to park your domains, I'll go ahead and make sure it's renamed today. I had already planned on moving this little land mine somewhere else on the page, so now is a perfect time.

We have always been straight to the point, obviously clickfraud=1 is one of those things as well. BTW, did I mention the clickfraud=1 does absolutely nothing? I had to test it!

Donny

 

[Theo]

Donny, I'm a web developer, so I like examining things. As I said, you might as well have used the "F" word to describe what your code is doing. Again, I pointed it out as another reference to the way you perceive us domain owners and the traffic we provide you with. It's the small details that can ruin the big picture.

 

[Donny Simonton]

Acroplex, the code in question has been around since before Parked.com was around. We ran domain parking for a large number of domain registrars so we were used to being beat by bots everyday. So this code helps us get rid of a few of them. I'll have it hopefully renamed before the day is over.

Donny

 

[namestrands]

I truly think that you should randomly generate the click fraud name on each page load.. its too easy for a bot to detect a consistent link and ignore it.

Cant say I have checked the source code lately but dont you also have a 1px x 1px image.php that detects if a page is actually loaded? if not then that could be something else to add.

 

[Donny Simonton]

Yeah, we have that as well. We check that all images and style sheets are loaded as well. I guess you could call the original one just a beginner spider trap. It's gotten over 6,000 unique spiders today by itself.

BTW, I forgot you owned Digitalarcade.com, me and my son were playing games on there this weekend.

Donny

 

[Raider]

dont use Parked.com unless you want 15 days revenue down the drain!

Let me make myself clear, I'm not taking your side Stu, my belief is that you did do something fraudulent and got what you deserved, as did others on this thread....My point is that I'm looking for some accounting of the money you lost, when your audited by the IRS, words mean absolutely nothing, documentation is all they listen too, same goes with me, I trust only what is on paper when it comes to $$$

 

[GAMEFINEST]

i just started with parked.com...so far soo good..

 

[Theo]

Since you consider the term "clickfraud" to be offensive and you don't even use Parked.com to park your domains, I'll go ahead and make sure it's renamed today.

I have one domain at Parked, so technically I am entitled to discuss Parked, stating facts and my own personal opinion on a DNF-owned public forum, of which I am a paid member.

 

[Donny Simonton]

Oh no, I'm in trouble now!

We changed the name of the former "clickfraud" script, it's now called spidertrap to make it a little more friendly to what it really does. Before I mentioned that it was fine to click on the link, as of right now, I don't recommend it. When you update things you make them a little stronger.

And welcome back.

Donny

 

[Gerry]

Not sure what all the bitchin is about with respect to parked retaining funds from people who commit fraud

No offense, but this is not what the entire thread is about.

Quite frankly, I never had a chance to commit fraud. Not even sure how to define fraud anymore. Clicks and revenue refused to be paid by down stream advertisers. Just not making much sense that one parking program or feed can define this as such yet others have no issue with this.

So rather than me getting paid for clicks, the advertisers are STILL getting the traffic and the hits that they refuse to pay for. I see no other way of putting it. Traffic exists, traffic is directed, traffic lands, but the traffic is not turned away. Just simply the advertisers refuse to pay Parked for the traffic they received so Parked refuses to pay me. It is essentially FREE traffic and FREE rental on my domains. Honestly, no matter what we call it or what formula or calculator we are using today, that is the gist of the matter.

Here is what I've been doing lately. Primarily, I have been focusing on domain with age that have active links. I have recently purchased several that are 8 years to nearly 11 years old with PR anywhere from 4 to 7.

Some are foreign language. Many are not. Some I just parked last night and keyword optimized are getting traffic and CTR at Sedo.

Does Sedo do a better job with international and foreign language feeds?

One older domain that I had (I know, I know...here comes that damn BleacherMob.com again) since moving back to Sedo continues to generate good traffic and CTR. But this is the same domain that Parked's advertisers refused to pay for. Again, a former web site and blog for the Sacramento Kings fans.

How is it that Parked or it's downward advertisers are able to determine that every one of my clicks are bogus and will not pay for them? Thousands of registered members were no longer looking for their fan site that was just dropped in November? They, like my clicks, did not actually exist and just vaporized?

I know we have been through this before, but I am sorry. It still makes no sense...one site pays, the other does not. A seven year old site that had thousands of members and all are deemed as bots. Keywords NBA BASKETBALL SACRAMENTO KINGS and not one was legitimate.

So, here I am buying PR 4-7, the oldest being 1995 and the most recent being 2002. How are the feeds and Parked's servers going to read these? Granted, Parked pages resolve almost instantly. But why take the time to point DNS servers to a page that is not going to pay when I have to go back in later to redo and restart at another site. Not only is revenue being lost. But time is being lost which equates to revenue.

We're talking telecommunication companies, biotechnology, travel, adult, and other popularly searched terms. From what I've been able to gather, some companies have gone through mergers or buyouts or have changed their names. Some were just simply dropped for some unknown reason.

Just like that damn BleacherMob.com.

Crazy Kings fans are still trying to find their site.

But I am reading all this chatter that some do better than others at different places and you just have to move them around and try yada, yada, yada.

Who has time to keep moving 3000+ domains and tweaking them?

 

[Theo]

Well-said, Doc. To use words more plain than this, one would have to resort to baby-talk. Yet still, the knuckleheads of this industry continue to not understand what we're talking about. It's money in someone else's pockets using our traffic, that we never get to see.

 

[namestrands]

Well this thread has been a real eye opener. I can now see how people view me when I bitch about SEDO, I really never realised.

Let me state from this day forward I will no longer bitch about SEDO. Let me also apologise to the members and moderators who no doubt cringe everytime they see me lurking in the SEDO forums. This revelation was realised by just reading all the f**king Victor Meldrew comments and thinking to myself "What a bunch of moaning bastards, with nothing better to do than flame people and programs from their proverbial soap boxes; holy bible of parking in one hand and a megaphone in the other... declaring "The End is Nigh" "Repent"... ripping apart comments and twisting them into their own rhetoric in an attempt to hope that their comments will cause some collateral damage.

At which point the penny dropped. OMFG thats me!!!

So let it be written so let it be done, should I ever bitch or moan about something with no merit then strike me down.

In conclusion. Parked.com Rock.

 

[Raider]

The saga continues.....this thread will never die!

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[Theo]

In fact, I will continue to bitch about Sedo, Parked, NameDrive etc. - any PPC company that does not do their job right when I feed them my traffic. If I wanted to be a "yes man" I'd have taken up politics.

 

[namestrands]

Politician.. no.
Activist.. for sure.

I will keep my eyes out for the Michael Moore collaboration of Parking 2007..

 

[Theo]

But of course, I am a liberal. But at 195 lbs I'd still be 1/2 the size of Moore. Now, with all the revenue in Parked's pockets I can't afford a decent sized meal :-(

 

[Raider]

In fact, I will continue to bitch about Sedo, Parked, NameDrive etc. - any PPC company that does not do their job right when I feed them my traffic. If I wanted to be a "yes man" I'd have taken up politics.

Most of these PPC providers will be at the upcoming TRAFFIC Conference in New York, and will be taking questions from the audience, are you going?

 

[Theo]

RG, these PPC providers can't give straight answers behind the safety of a forum and you think they'd do that at a conference? I might as well roll the dice myself.

 

[wolfis.com]

In fact, I will continue to bitch about Sedo, Parked, NameDrive etc. - any PPC company that does not do their job right when I feed them my traffic. If I wanted to be a "yes man" I'd have taken up politics.

Theo,

see how far it got me with mouthing off to ppc services - ( you will be ignored , disliked , banned and everything else in the book and the endresult is you are making less and less money - and the fraudster make more and more)

( this was this does not include namedrive or parked as both ppc companies at least try very hard to fight this problem)

as for the other ppc companies - i do know that several companies have dozends if not hundreds of account with fake traffic ( this is no lie) - yes, that is correct 100's of fake traffic accounts. - and they do something only if you tell them to. and then only maybe .

so you just can't win - unless you go to yahoo and google directly - and this is what i am doing now.

 

[Theo]

I don't want to "win" anything, other than talk about my experience with parked, in this parked-related forum. If that makes me a thorn in Donny's backside, too bad. I speak my mind and know when I am right.