.US Heating Up!

[sasquatch]

I think your anti .US statements would carry more weight if you attached some theory to back up your opinion.

Just thinking off of my head quickly I'd say these three are the main ones.

- By far and large, most large .us purchases have been conducted by domain speculators positioning themselves "strategically" in case the "inevitable" .us boom really happens.

- By far and large most US businesses still opt for third or even fourth choices in the main extension because even though it ain't 1997 anymore, in their heads com is still a prestige symbol of "internet belonging" and sensible marketing strategies. And their heads, unfortunately, are not very keen on experimenting. If they were they would lead, not follow. Adopt rather than react. etc.

- The extension recognition at the broad society levels (meaning not among the tech savvy youth alone, but also among the housewives) is rather miserable. Some of it is due to the perpetual reinforcements of com machine (see above) and some of it is due to sheer stupidity of the general populace whose brains are cemented in the mass media thinking of the day.

Untill all three of these things change in significant ways, the us extension imho will remain to be the choice of speculators and outsiders and not the mass market.

And if you agree with it, you tell me how realistic is that all these three things will change before markets are flooded with even more extensions, search choices or marketing tactics?

 

[DryHeat]

I overhelmingly disagree with this. I wasn't posting against any particular domain, rather I was just mildly voicing personal opinion and speculating on the prospect of this particual extension in general.

.........Your comparison is unfounded because I wasn't commenting about one domain (venture), but about the whole extension (business or service in general). That would be similar to expresing my opinion, not that Bob's Brokerage House on 13th street suck - but that New York Stock Exchange as a whole sucks.

..........No, I wasn't declaring any blatant dooms as I explained above. And yes, you can indeed, for instance, bad mouth scuba diving industry in general if you want.

Well, lets check it out: http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?t=113220&page=2&pp=15
It starts like this: Someone says (about acquisition of Business.us) "Money well invested"...Your response:

How so?

and then it goes on like this:

And let's not kid ourselves, the name in this extension (no matter how significant it is) will not take off and sustain itself without a further significant investment in money and time. It will simply not succeed by "selling" its "wares" on some cookie-cutter script gotten off of Hotscripts or offshored from Elance. In other words, buying this domain was the easiest part in the world; doing something with it is the hardest.

and,

Oh c'mon, the potential alone will not necessarily get you anywhere. It's one thing to have the potential, but completely another to realize that potential.

and,

Which will completely be negated by the third-rate extension with no traffic or significant mass-market recognition.

and more,

I think congratulations to someone on his purchase of the "potential" are rather pointless. Potential is the first step on a path to success, but only if that success is achieved one day. If that success is never achieved than the potential wasn't the first step in path to success, but in path to waste.....…………congrats are more in order when someone makes 100k, not when someone spends 100k especially when the extension in question is .US

You see impressions are created within a given context and not in a vaccum.

 

[sasquatch]

You see impressions are created within a given context and not in a vaccum.

Precisely! Except you're bringing this out of context, or more precisely you are bringing another context and are extrapolating it into this one. You're referencing completely another thread, not the one you're replying here. Again, that thread was more of my response to other responses and hence it is taken out of "given (this!) context". Most importantly, if the buyer himself was cool enough not to see a big deal about my responses, what makes you take it so to heart?

 

[StockDoctor]

Just thinking off of my head quickly I'd say these three are the main ones.

Thank you for your reponse.

By far and large, most large .us purchases have been conducted by domain speculators positioning themselves "strategically" in case the "inevitable" .us boom really happens.

True, and I have seen the light, and when they also experience it, I expect these speculators to move quickly to take advantage ot it.

By far and large most US businesses still opt for third or even fourth choices in the main extension because even though it ain't 1997 anymore, in their heads com is still a prestige symbol of "internet belonging" and sensible marketing strategies. And their heads, unfortunately, are not very keen on experimenting. If they were they would lead, not follow. Adopt rather than react. etc.

Agree, but when these US businesses see the NEW and IMPROVED model of anything, they follow the trend. In this age of viral marketing, things can speed uptake like nothing from the past. This CAN happen with .US as well. My comments are based on the point that I see this starting now.

The extension recognition at the broad society levels (meaning not among the tech savvy youth alone, but also among the housewives) is rather miserable. Some of it is due to the perpetual reinforcements of com machine (see above) and some of it is due to sheer stupidity of the general populace whose brains are cemented in the mass media thinking of the day.

I think it best to not be too influenced by the past and to be a little more forward looking. The reason for extension diversification (new term?) by us original .com only holders is the hedge (insurance) it provides. I actually had a chance to reg Wallstreet.com, Stocks.com and Bonds.com etc. and turned them down because I listened to some naysayers telling me that the "WEB would never take off because graphics slowed it down too much". I will NOT make that mistake again and choose to look to the future possibilities, participate, and not be held back by those locked into and only seeing the status quo.

And if you agree with it, you tell me how realistic is that all these three things will change before markets are flooded with even more extensions, search choices or marketing tactics?

As far as extensions go, the US has only 1 country code. Small local businesses will need a relative keyword string that is within their means. When that happens, 100,000 pizza joints will want the keyword "pizza" none of which will ever be able to afford the .com. Alright, the first couple take big-tasty-pizza.com, but what's left after that? That demand means the appreciation of the alt extensions and leading the pack may be the US geographical qualifier. In answer to your last point about changing search and marketing, tell me how that does NOT benefit alt extensions to the detriment of the current .coms' url-bar type-in benefits? Searchers are becoming more savvy to search and fruustrated with url bar type-in results.

 

[Rubber Duck]

In answer to your last point about changing search and marketing, tell me how that does NOT benefit alt extensions to the detriment of the current .coms' url-bar type-in benefits? Searchers are becoming more savvy to search and fruustrated with url bar type-in results.

I strongly agree that increasing sophistication amongst browser will result in a decline in Address bar type-ins. How many of us actually use that to browse the net. Not too many I guess, as it is generally a pretty lame way of doing things. Good domains, however, will still be need as SEO cannot really function without them. The best way to ensure affordable traffic will always be to have a premium domain.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[zouzas]

Precisely. Nothing wrong with "shooting shit". I'm not a possesor of a swollen ego to have a constant need to be "well liked", "admired" or even "taken seriously". If we accept the fact that none of us could ever possibly be right all the time, then what's the problem? I think people should lighten up a bit, and not take everything as a sign of personal consipracy against them or their goals.

Is that you Blink :cheeky:

 

[sasquatch]

In answer to your last point about changing search and marketing, tell me how that does NOT benefit alt extensions to the detriment of the current .coms' url-bar type-in benefits? Searchers are becoming more savvy to search and fruustrated with url bar type-in results.

I agree, but by the same logic all extensions then should become almost irrelevant. In that scenario us extension might have a small adavantage over another alter extension (such is a hypothetical extension "mrt" for instance), but won't have great advantage because it will be drowned by sheer number of other choices.

In fact I envision further fragementation of extension system whereby anything potentially commerical might and will eventually become an extension based on the orgasmic capitalistic principle "Ecommerce to anyone from anyone at anytime":

.food
.tex-mex
.nyc
.ski
.baby
.$$$
.teen

In my vision of the Internet future sheer number of offerings will be mind-boggling and jacked up to the umpth degree. It will be like walking down the Broadway sidewalks during the Thanksging parade. All sense of direction will be lost, and everyone will be unto himself to make a sense of the "big labyrinth" :-D

In fact, I would't be surprised if we get to the point of having alternative Internet channels. Like on TV.

"Hey I was surfing on the net #17 today, and guess what I came accross...".

 

[fundraiser]

Most importantly, if the buyer himself was cool enough not to see a big deal about my responses, what makes you take it so to heart?

You did PM me and I responded because I respond to all PMs but you had already made your posts. I did not make a big deal about your posts regarding my domain because to do so after the fact would only draw me into an argument that would serve no useful purpose and that thread was simply being used by members to wish me well which I appreciated. As I read your posts in this thread, I was glad to see DryHeat (thank you my friend) make the post he did because threads on forums do not exist in isolation. Together your posts help to create your online rep and let's face it, you were crapping all over my business in the other thread which may be your right but that doesn't mean it was right.

 

[carlton]

Sasquatch - Since you are obviously interested in domains, what are some of your better .com's? What do you do with your domains?

 

[StockDoctor]

From this week's copy of DNjournal.

.US now has five of the year's nine highest New TLD sales, giving the American domain more sales at the top end of that segment than .info and .biz combined

http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm

 

[mole]

Foods.us, $20k?

Isn't it just great that as the years go by one by one, and as evidence and emerging trends mount momentum, you start remarking "I told you so.." more and more?

The value of geographic differentiation became apparent as early as 2002 when Google started rolling out local languages and local URL versions, one by one they silently came.

The .COM neopaths refused to acknowledge this undercurrent, the reshaping DNA of the domain ecosystem if you will. Just like they used to scorn at the way Windows 2.1 crashed all the time and religious clung on to their aging DOS environment.

In virtue is patience, in patience is vindication.

 

[zouzas]

Foods.us, $20k?



In virtue is patience, in patience is vindication.

Amen





the bidder started at 500hundred but im a reluctant seller this early in the stage but needed to get some on the board for .US so i took a hit for the team :approve:

 

[namewaiter]

From this week's copy of DNjournal.


http://www.dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm

and this is without business.us, any reason this sale isn't mentioned?

 

[sasquatch]

You did PM me and I responded because I respond to all PMs but you had already made your posts. I did not make a big deal about your posts regarding my domain because to do so after the fact would only draw me into an argument that would serve no useful purpose and that thread was simply being used by members to wish me well which I appreciated. As I read your posts in this thread, I was glad to see DryHeat (thank you my friend) make the post he did because threads on forums do not exist in isolation. Together your posts help to create your online rep and let's face it, you were crapping all over my business in the other thread which may be your right but that doesn't mean it was right.

What "business"? You purchased a name, and I was immediately crapping all over your "business" just for voicing opinion and not even to you but to others that success is not spending 100k but making it?? Some crappping. C'mon are you a six years old child to feel so sensitive? Besides I wished you well three times (and I meant it!), but that wasn't good enough since I was also supposed to bend backwards and kiss your behind too?

Whatever man. Since you are so double-headed I have nothing to discuss with you or any other inner-circle of mutually behind-kissing cultists. Especially not when my reasonable efforts to keep the discussion at "things at hand" (extensions, successes, names) get steered into discussion about my personality.

I am done.

 

[mole]

I am done.

Hey sas, like water over a duck's back, man.

Wait till you encounter those .commie cults, geesh, then you know what rubbing your buttbutton with sandpaper feels like.

 

[zouzas]

another xx,xxx.xx sale for .US be in next weeks dnjournal

 

[Rubber Duck]

another xx,xxx.xx sale for .US be in next weeks dnjournal

Maybe, but in terms of the size of the register, dot US will be outstripped by dot CN before the New Year!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[namewaiter]

Maybe, but in terms of the size of the register, dot US will be outstripped by dot CN before the New Year!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

i guess it makes sense, as their population is nearly 4X ours, but it's totally irrelevant to this thread.

 

[Rubber Duck]

i guess it makes sense, as their population is nearly 4X ours, but it's totally irrelevant to this thread.

I don't see why. The assertion is that dot US is heating up. OK! Fundraiser has sunk a chunk into one dot US, but looking at the bigger picture dot US does not seem to performing particularly well.

OK, China has a larger population than the US, but what about Germany or the UK! From where I am standing the only favourable comparisons to be drawn are those in relation to dot info!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

 

[zouzas]

I, but looking at the bigger picture dot US does not seem to performing particularly well.

how so??

highest sales by far on the new tld is .US

out of 10 highest sales on the chart at dnjournal .US has 5 or half ,,info only 3 .biz 2 :huh:

oh and .US started about 2 years after .info and .biz