Originally posted by Cartoonz
Isn't a mushroom kept in the dark and fed Bull$hit?
WLS does not stand a rat's chance in Hell.
Originally posted by stocdoctor
Hey Cartoonz I'm hoping WLS will go thru.
Just lost 3 more to the likes of Mrs Jello, BuyDomains and Ultsearch. I agree with Mark, that there is a chance using the other services (I use almost all of them and have 50 Snaps revolving) but it's a very very slim chance. As the system is now, it's like the lottery with all of us buying a ticket. The above group just buys 99.9% of the tickets. If we win, we pay $69, or $120 or more, and if they win, they pay $6 max. If it's going to be "status quo" when the WLS comes out, why are the likes of BuyDomains protesting against it so much?
The way I see it, the only way for any of us little guys to beat these Big guys is thru WLS. They own the system now.
I've still got a couple slots open on the 100 DNF$ bets.
Doc
Originally posted by Cartoonz
1. They pay the same amount as you do.
2. They buy a majority of the chances, true.
Why do you think that they will not buy a majority of WLS slots as well? That is strange logic.
Originally posted by stocdoctor
1. No they do not. They pay $6 or less (if they win) while we pay $69 for a snap, $120+ for a DW, huge bids at NW, $50 minimum at Nic Genie (if the name hasn't been bot already and they choose to put the leftovers on their list).
2. They do buy the huge majority of chances, but only pay the $6 or less if they win. We pay snap fees whether we win or not.
Originally posted by stocdoctor
1. No they do not. They pay $6 or less (if they win) while we pay $69 for a snap, $120+ for a DW, huge bids at NW, $50 minimum at Nic Genie (if the name hasn't been bot already and they choose to put the leftovers on their list).
2. They do buy the huge majority of chances, but only pay the $6 or less if they win. We pay snap fees whether we win or not.
Originally posted by DomainGoon
Your info is wrong. That's all I'll say right now.
They pay $6 or less
Originally posted by kidkool
honestly, i 'm tired of the naysayers complaining that they lose to ultsearch and buydomains. I'm confident of beating them any day of the week on any name. You win some and you lose some. Buydomains and ultsearch grab a lot of names in all, but if you pick the name you want and are determined... they're most likely toast.
I mean, i think you're one of the cooler and more savvy members of this board stocdoctor. Where's your flare for excitement and competition? Do you think when you have snap or the high bid on namewinner you are just entitled to the name? Sorry, man but there is a lot more effort and strategy that goes into it then that.
The same people who have a losing attitude now will not have success with the new system. they will find something new to whine about. i can see it now. With wls, if you are lucky enough, you'll get one of the slots for a decent name in the first 3 hours. after that it will be over. when it rolls out companies will buy wls subscriptions by the hundreds of thousands. you had better believe that people will be using scripts or some other automated or sophisticated means to grab the slots in bulk.
now if you are lucky enough to get a slot. do you think you will get the name? i wouldn't be too confident. because that guy who is bidding 5k at namewinner or dropking now will see that the slot is taken and simply contact the registrant and purchase it from him. Sure, that sort of thing happens now, but not anywhere near the degree as when wls is in effect. why? because right now people are reluctant to make an offer to the registrant for a great name because they are confident they have a chance at getting it for a bargain in the drops. With wls offering the registrant will be the only option if you need the name. in otherwords, the naysayers of today will still be complaining that they had the wls for such and such name and some "next generation buydomains" company
bought it direct from the registrant and "screwed" you.
my advice to the naysayers is to go for the name and not wait for some commie ICANN approved diversion as a handout. Show a little bit of tenacity, and above all, grab the name!
Originally posted by kidkool
now if you are lucky enough to get a slot. do you think you will get the name? i wouldn't be too confident. because that guy who is bidding 5k at namewinner or dropking now will see that the slot is taken and simply contact the registrant and purchase it from him. Sure, that sort of thing happens now, but not anywhere near the degree as when wls is in effect. why? because right now people are reluctant to make an offer to the registrant for a great name because they are confident they have a chance at getting it for a bargain in the drops. With wls offering the registrant will be the only option if you need the name. in otherwords, the naysayers of today will still be complaining that they had the wls for such and such name and some "next generation buydomains" company
bought it direct from the registrant and "screwed" you.
Originally posted by biggedon
Shake up is a good thing in this case, all those snap services
are just like the phone companies. Now the monopoly is about to be broken, and new one's will probably be started. in between the transition maybe some nonsubscribers to these services can get a couple of good names!
If it's going to be "status quo" when the WLS comes out, why are the likes of BuyDomains protesting against it so much?
so you're basically saying the registrars chase names for them for free or even at a loss..
If I'm understanding you right, you have it backwards. WLS will be a monopoly. Right now there's competition in dropping names.
so you're basically saying the registrars chase names for them for free or even at a loss..
Hardly. Nor do they get them at $6. I wish. That price isn't even pocket money in the wholesale drop biz.
Originally posted by Duke of Earl
I'm with Gordon on this one. There are a variety of business models to choose from with the various dropcatchers offering services today (and more are sure to arrive). Competition is always healthy. Monopolies never are.
Originally posted by stocdoctor
I still can't see how a wls is going to cost me more? A snap is usually $69, DW $120+, Nic Genie $50+, and Namewinner is on the moon sometimes with those rediculous bids, just to name a few. Some services charge whether you get the name or not, but you got to cover the bases right?
Originally posted by Shiftlock
Yes, you are right, with WLS you will pay less. And you'll get less too. Chasing names might not be worth it anymore. I'm making a good profit right now doing what I'm doing, and I'm happy with that. I believe WLS will screw it all up.
Originally posted by stocdoctor
I beg you to show me where the competition is today? I don't like Verislime having a monopoly either, but what exists today is simular to a feudal system with the registrars transferring expired names over to their buds (or keeping them for themselves) before they drop.
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