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Doc Com,

I've always been a big supporter of .mobi, due to how different it was from the other 'newer' TLDs (info/biz/etc.).

I'm donating all my DNF money -1, To a new .mobi supporter who can take Kylewill's place.... Please, there has to be an intelligent, well informed, outside of the box .mobier here on DNF.. somewhere! One that provides some intellect and factual information, I encourage anyone to get involved so Kylewill stops giving .mobiers a bad name.

:)

If I wanted to turn this into something personal, I can.

You already did, dont bother denying it.... I thought you were more mature than this.... I was wrong.
 
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2 years or 4 years from now, someone else will be posting how silly you all appeared and sounded.

You mean how silly the mobee fanatics appeared and sounded.

Can you name one top 100 domainer that has bought more than 10 .mobis?

And don't say Rick Schwartz because even if he barely made the top 100, he has motivations and circumstances that don't apply to other domainers.

Shouldn't that tell you something that none of the top domainers are jumping on the mobee bandwagon? Don't you trust their business instincts and business acumen?

One day this will finally hit you like a ton of bricks.
 

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I love saying this: .mobi sucks :laugh:
 

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2 years or 4 years from now, someone else will be posting how silly you all appeared and sounded.

2 or 4 years from now, in the remote possibility that .mobi does take off, all that someone else will be posting is that we were wrong.

And if there's one thing I've found in life, its that there is nothing wrong with being wrong sometimes.

I know I'll still be making money off my .coms

And you'll still be starting threads aimed at some particular members to try and piss them off.


.mobism is like scientology. If Ron Hubbard was a domainer, he would've been on mTLD's board.
 

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You mean how silly the mobee fanatics appeared and sounded.

Can you name one top 100 domainer that has bought more than 10 .mobis?

And don't say Rick Schwartz because even if he barely made the top 100, he has motivations and circumstances that don't apply to other domainers.

Shouldn't that tell you something that none of the top domainers are jumping on the mobee bandwagon? Don't you trust their business instincts and business acumen?

One day this will finally hit you like a ton of bricks.

How many of the top 100 companies of 15 years ago are still in the top 100?

Anyway, how are we supposed to know who owns what down to the nearest 10 names? You may as well ask how many pairs of shoes they've got.

One day this will finally hit you like a ton of bricks.

Well one of us for sure!

If I'm wrong, I'm out a few grand (but I wont be because I've got most of that back through PPC - believe that or not). If you're wrong you'll have missed an awesome opportunity.
 

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You mean how silly the mobee fanatics appeared and sounded.

Can you name one top 100 domainer that has bought more than 10 .mobis?

And don't say Rick Schwartz because even if he barely made the top 100, he has motivations and circumstances that don't apply to other domainers.

Shouldn't that tell you something that none of the top domainers are jumping on the mobee bandwagon? Don't you trust their business instincts and business acumen?

One day this will finally hit you like a ton of bricks.

Business are driving the internet, not domainers. Sorry, it just doesn't happen that way.
This is deja vu, from post 236.

Since when do you think that it is the domainers controlling and running the internet? You would like to believe that, we all would.

But this is more of that one minded approach, that being everything evolves around domains and domaining. Hell bells, a business can not go on line unless they consult the domain gods.

That is where the ton of bricks comes in. When people come to the realization that global commerce does not evolve and depend on anybody on this forum.

You act like only domainers are buying and using dot mobi. I could care less about any of the top 100 domainers buying or owning a .mobi. I could give two shits knowing how many .mobi's Rick owns.

Is that your argument? The top 100 domainers? How many did they buy?

Again, you need to consult the domain gods and read their blogs like many others so you can formulate an opinion based on their opinions?

What happened to the top 100 businesses in each business sector or industry? Oh, no...screw them. I want to know which domainer is buying into it. Domainers have the pulse of the world in their hands. Domainers have the final say over who can use what.

You wish you had that power. And those domain gods wish they had that power.

My business savvy (not instincts) and research and marketing and advertising experience tells me this is where I want to be. Many of those "top domainers" that you are referring to do not drive me, do not think for me, do not formulate my opinions.

Sorry, I did not pray to them nor consult with them when I was contemplating my purchases. I never have.

Remember when these same top domainers were saying:

Only dot com
No numbers.
Only english words.
No hyphens
No more than 7 letters.

You know you remember that mantra. I laughed my *** off then and I laugh my *** off now. I am so thankful that many if not all domainers of the day followed this path. Because while a few of us already knew the above, it also created such poor and ill advice to leave a shit load of cherry names and extension for the picking. Look at what NNN.com is going for today. Or L-L.com. Or prime .net because the gods said don't touch them. Don't eat that forbidden fruit. (oh hell, another biblical story coming on. Remember the Mobi Dick and Capt Gregr classic? Damn. Looks like the Garden of Eden is getting ready for a makeover)

I don't wake up in the morning or go to bed at night reading the holy scripture found on the domain gods blogs.

You can if you want and it appears that many have.

Take a look around. DNF Members: Total 49,737.

Where are the other 6.5 billion inhabitants?

My god, these domain meetings must be the biggest pat-on-the-*** love-me fests on the planet. Some of you must act like dogs in heat humping the legs of the panelist just to get close to them.
 

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copy & pasted: I love saying this: .mobi sucks
 

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2 or 4 years from now, in the remote possibility that .mobi does take off, all that someone else will be posting is that we were wrong.

And if there's one thing I've found in life, its that there is nothing wrong with being wrong sometimes.

I know I'll still be making money off my .coms

And you'll still be starting threads aimed at some particular members to try and piss them off.


.mobism is like scientology. If Ron Hubbard was a domainer, he would've been on mTLD's board.

"Remote possibility"?? You see the ever growing list of major companies developing their .mobi names - have they done that with any other extensions? No. Can you imagine how many people will be exposed to .mobi today from those developed names? Millions.

I agree with you, there's nothing wrong with being wrong, but some of us will also look silly and lack credibility; and I'm getting more confident every time someone posts news of another vast company building out their mobi - they're doing the marketing for us domainers. Surely whenever you guys see those threads it make you cringe, because it proves you just a little bit wronger each time. Proves FS a little bit wronger, SS a little bit wronger, and all the rest that said it'll never take off, a little bit wronger. At least those guys have taken the decision (collectively I think) to shut the feck up about it....maybe the rest of you are awaiting your instructions from the mother-ship.

I do like your term mobism - sounds more like art to me though than a cult. So what does your team want to be called? Can I suggest sub-mobism?:approve:
 

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I do like your term mobism - sounds more like art to me though than a cult. So what does your team want to be called? Can I suggest sub-mobism?:approve:


I'd prefer .commie :smilewinkgrin:

Jasdon, look around a bit. Sure, there are companies launching .mobi sites, but there are companies also launching sites in other extensions, chiefly, .tv.

Yesterday, I went to LonelyPlanet.tv. One of the biggest and most respected name in the travel segment has a .tv site, but you don't see anyone shouting it out in the .tv section.

Then how about Powerade's NeverGiveUp.tv. Powerade is owned by Coca-Cola, which, as Vision or Doc would rather carefully copy-paste from Wikipedia, is one of the most recognized brands in the world.

Then how about TNT.tv

Try VirginMegaStore.tv - owned by the Virgin group.

Injection.tv - by Dunlop
Then MTV's YoMamma.tv.

BMW has got a TV site at BMW.tv

There are lots more..


Look, I'm no big .tv fan, but I used that extension just as an illustration. There are sites being launched everywhere, companies want to exploit every little niche they can. How they choose to go about doing it is there choice. Some use XYZTv.com, some use XYZ.tv, Some go m.xyz.com, some go xyz.mobi.


There was a big thread here about Disney advertising High School Musical 2 on hsm2.mobi
Well, TNT has got TNT.tv displayed permanently on the channel. That beats any 30 second commercial. But you didn't see any posts in the .tv forum about that.


The frequent threads about another big company launching a .mobi site don't make me cringe because I would be proven wrong. They make me cringe because I see the same members trying to create an illusion as if every company is migrating to .mobi, and .mobi will rule the planet.

There are a similar number of sites being launched on other extensions too, by big companies (what I posted above .tv was just a few, a sample), but you don't think about them because you don't have 650+ threads talking about every one of them. If someone started doing that for .tv, or .de, I'm sure you'll be able to create the same impression that Doc and Vision have been able to create so well.


Maybe I should start a thread in the .tv section:

***** Lonely Planet Rolls Onto The Web With LonelyPlanet.tv *****


Think about it. 600 such threads, and what impression you can create.
 

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I think you'll find that a great number of the .tv site are simply there as a way of tracking the success of certain marketing channels. They are not in most cases totally new sites. A lot of companies use different domains to be able to track the effectiveness of a particular advertising campaign - using a .tv is a popular way of doing this for TV campaigns. They don't actually build out a specific site.

I like .tv - I think it should be doing a lot better than it is, but the past uncertainties regarding renewals etc, harmed it in a massive way. But feel free to start as many threads about it as you like - 20 a day, whatever - absolutely fine by me.
 

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.mobism is like scientology. If Ron Hubbard was a domainer, he would've been on mTLD's board.
Couldn't say it better myself :yes:
2 years or 4 years from now, someone else will be posting how silly you all appeared and sounded.
Sure will be interesting to see.

I like to look at the past and I pretty much enjoy the old threads/articles like this one for example:
http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/8_809641
Today I am sure most of us will smile at this... suing for .biz domains :)
Funny how frenzy takes over people sometimes (I am saying this broadly).
Now just because Ricks spends pocket change on a name, does that mean everyone should follow suit and shell out big $$$. Talk about sheepish domain speculation.

At least mtld have proven the power of hype marketing - they should run the .us registry ;)
 

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Now just because Ricks spends pocket change on a name, does that mean everyone should follow suit and shell out big $$$. Talk about sheepish domain speculation.

At least mtld have proven the power of hype marketing - they should run the .us registry ;)

So, the ones who have chosen a different, new route of domain speculation, are the sheep are they? How'd you work that one out?

Check me if I'm wrong, but Rick wasn't the first guy to buy a .mobi - not the first to pay $xxx, or $xxxx or even $xx,xxx for one. Yes he was the first to pay $xxx,xxx - but by your rationale, it could be argued that he was a follower.

Honestly, the arguments are just getting thinner and thinner....
 

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Do whatever you ****ing want!!! You wont see me trolling around looking to bash .TV. Just be wary of the KKK.com! Good luck.

in that case, I'll go about here bashing .mobi

just doing what I ****ing want to do
 

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So, the ones who have chosen a different, new route of domain speculation, are the sheep are they? How'd you work that one out?
The sheep are those who pay 5- or 6-figure amounts in the auctions just because a seasoned domainer did spend 200k on a gamble.
The rest are just overoptimistic - no offense JMO.
 
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